Agreed. I'm drawn to the F-Type largely because it is a middle finger to the emerging definitions of automotive goodness. That's probably a terrible indicator of future value.

 

Roger that. They are still depreciating like a kamikaze running low on fuel.

 

The average 2017 F-Type depreciated 28% last year. 2018 data isn't in yet, but lost 12% in the last three months. The SVR could lose 40% YOY.

But the entire luxury market is like this, with out-of-warranty Porsche, Mercs, and BMWs often selling at 80-90% depreciation.

 

Yep, without a doubt.


Dave

 

I've heard numerous, if not almost all Jag owners request an V8MT, so your personal attack and belief that no V8 owners want a manual is just plain wrong.

 

IMO, any ’14 because they’re the first ones out, or a ’15 (first Coupe). Can I go as far as to say they more closely parallel the Series I EType? Simplicity in comparison to the later models (which are great too). Basically 3 model choices, 2 interior choices. Personally, I’m not a fan of the side skirts and diffusers. The car looks sleeker without them. I like the shark gills. Really disappointed that they’re gone - to the extent that I would buy no later than a ’17 today.

It will be collectable so long as parts are still available, but I probably will not be around long enough or young enough to reap it’s benefits.

Of course, apologies in advance for any errors or if I stepped on anyone’s toes

 

If one looks at some of those 60's/70's muscle cars that have appreciated so tremendously, it seems to me the ones are in most demand are the obviously rare but also fun and outrageous. For a while there the '70-'71 Hemi Cuda convertible was up into 7 figures (maybe still is).. So, using that logic, 2014 V8's (performance/convertible) or 2015 R (Coupe - RWD madness) seem like the best candidates to me. Add in the fact that my son keeps finding salvage/wreck F-types on autotrader and the number that actually survive to become classics may be quite small...

 

You make some great points! It seems each year the changes make the original classic lines fade and the car gets clunkier. The dissappearing shark gills, the wider rounded color coded side skirt body cladding, the SVR's Ferrari-wannabe front wheel brake vents and boy racer wing, and now those awful '18 headlights are actually making the front end ugly.

Jaguar, stop! Go back to the original lines and lights or new sales are going to dry up.

 

Everyone "wants" a manual and yet they can't sell the V6 version worth a damn. It's like most of Jaguar's customer base isn't forum members or something!

 

Or... perhaps... V8 buyers value performance more than V6 buyers? I think we're onto something!

 

E types took along time to become classic. In the '80's I almost bought a decent driver for $5k. In '90's they took off but have seesawed over the years with the various economies.

 

$5K was a good amount of money for a driver in the 80s. That would have bought the Dow three times or around $75K now. What's that, about twice as much as a driver quality used F-Type costs today?

 

All the more reason they'd be interested in the automatic, since it offers better performance.

 

Thats what I talked myself into. Its ok, but having given it a geniune chance, an MT is better all around. The only place the AT is better is straight line speed, which having used it for quite a while now, is not worth the trade given all a the quirks, serious design flaws, and safety hazards.

A well designed, fast dual clutch would be more appealing but still not worth the loss of full control and sensible daily operation of an MT, IMO.

 

I just enjoy my car. It's so much fun! Cars may go the way of horse drawn carriages or chariots. It may become a fringe hobby.

The problem with these cars are the electronics. Unlike the muscle cars of 50 years ago with carburetor and some wires; these cars depend on electronics to run the darn thing. Can one start a modern car by just pushing it with the clutch pressed, in second gear, and then releasing the clutch? This is assuming that one has a manual V6 version.

Once the computer goes then can it be replaced; once Jaguar are no longer making the parts for this car?

My plan - to drive my V8 S until it cries 'UNCLE!"

 

All of which you've made up.

 

In order regarding current/future desirability/potential value:

• P7
• V8R RWD
• V8S RWD
• V6 Manual
• V6 400 Sport
• V6S
• V6
• Any AWD variant 😉

 

Hey wasnt the company line the P7 was named for 7 Le Mans wins? Now whats it stand for?

 

Good list. I'd reverse the first model year V8 RWD to put it above the R RWD, because there are an unlimited number of V8Rs--granted there are limited R RWDs but 15 is the second MY for the V8 RWD. Unless you like the 15 coupe but thats not a typical collectable preference, especially with a clean sheet design convertible which is unheard of today.

Hey wasnt the company line the P7 was named for 7 Le Mans wins? Now whats it stand for?