We all know how lousy the P-Zero's are, and how great the MPS4's are. I have been hugely impressed at the dry weather grip since putting them on. I drove in some pretty heavy rain today, and the wet weather performance is truly staggering, was able to drive in dynamic and get on the throttle (still being sensible and progressive). The P-Zero's were HORRIBLE in these conditions on a RWD V8S, would not have driven in dynamic mode with them on.

So... this is basically a call to arms for all RWD F Type owners. If you still have P-Zero's fitted you are missing out on so much of the cars capabilities and performance. Burn through them, or ditch them early if you can!

I know it will have been a commercial decision, but Jaguar should never have chosen the P-Zero as the OEM tire.

 

I've been surprised by a lack of hydroplaning with the MPSS, and presumably MPS4S - haven't driven in heavy rain with them yet.

 

I can confirm the same. I was literally scared to drive P-Zero in heavier rain, MPS4 give me much more confidence.

 

I think it was this video that explained a lot - basically types of tire melded to handle dry and wet...

 

A real man turns off all nannies, Pzeros, rain and floors it around corners. Just FYI (rwd).

 

Pzeros? That is LUXURY. I drive my F-type on wooden carriage wheels. Knee deep in the snow. Up the hill both ways.

 

All, please keep in mind, even the Michelin summer tires are slippery as snot in ambient conditions under 40 deg f.

 

I agree about the P-Zeros. Need to replace mine real soon. Anyone had any experience with BFGoodrich tires? Found these all season tires that got highly rated and at a very reasonable price...or is it worth spending the extra for the Michelins?

 

Ok for the base. Not rated for the R if you’re going for terminal velocity.

 

I haven’t had any experience with BF Goodrich, but they are actually a Michelin brand.

Agree with others that the P Zeros on our cars were absolute garbage.

 

The Michelin 4S is just outstanding. Night and day difference from the Pzero. Came home from a dinner is moderately heavy rain with temps in the 50s. Highway drive with little time to get heat in them. Normally I'm a bit nervous with my RWD in those conditions. Not with the 4S, much greater confidence with just normal driving style. Never wavered.

 

I had these tires and the Michelin PSS on a Lexus IS350. The BFGoodrich were great for the price but the Michelins were noticeably better--they rarely slipped under hard driving whereas the BFGoodrich slipped a little when driving the same way.

 

what about

continental sport contact 6

or

good year eagle f1 ?

 

Indietor, if you're looking for a budget alternative to the MPSS, check out the Kumho Ecsta PS91. The tread pattern is conspicuously similar too.



I had them on my Mustang GT with ~450hp and was very confident in them. I suspect they're a little noisier than the MPSS, but night & day better than the PZero.

 

no no i don't want budget i want the best and the problem is the 245 40 19 michelin sport 4 s it's not to be found

 

Why don't you have your local Michelin dealer custom order them from the factory? In fact, TireRack might even ship them to you. (Though it doesn't make much sense shipping them across the ocean twice).

 

yes i try to do that because i only check the shop online for tyres , i need to ask local order from factory
but is strange because if you look at

michelin.it

or france or uk they don't have the measure

 

I regularly commute on weekends between DC and New Hampshire - about 560 miles each way. Haven't had any issue with the PZeros in rain or heavy rain until the tread is worn down on the rears (about 20,000 miles). Then again, I only have an F-Type S. Even so, once the Pirellis wear out, I switch to Continental DWS all-season tires for a couple reasons: softer ride over less than perfect roads; and, better foul weather traction when the temperatures get low. Sure, I sacrifice some handling but that's what works for me. To each his own.