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Old Sep 10, 2018 | 11:51 AM
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Does anyone have any experience using Perma Plate protection on your F-Type paint and interior?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2018 | 12:30 PM
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Not worth it. It's essentially dealer-applied conventional wax. Nothing permanent about it, contrary to what its name might suggest.

Spend the extra money for a paint correction detail and ceramic coating. The ceramic comes as close to a "permanent" sealant as is currently available on the market. A high-end job can last up to 5 years if maintained properly, but can run upwards of $2500-$3000. Of course the results exceed new car standards so many believe the added cost is worth it. I certainly do.

You can learn to do it yourself and only spend about $400, but expect to put in about 60 hours of labor into the job to do it right. YouTube is your friend here.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2018 | 04:32 PM
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$3,000/5 years= $600 a year. Why not just spend the money on detailing?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2018 | 10:05 PM
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$3,000/5 years= $600 a year. Why not just spend the money on detailing?
Because it’ll also save the cost of a paint job a few more years downstream. Only so many times you can claybar the car before you grind through the clear coat.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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Because it’ll also save the cost of a paint job a few more years downstream. Only so many times you can claybar the car before you grind through the clear coat.
I've been using an alternative to clay called "Nanoskin" I hope that it is less grinding to the paint than real clay. It is a rubberized material on a mitt. I use the fine grade as opposed to medium grade.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2018 | 01:27 PM
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The key to not using clay often is a solid sealant. If you have to clay more than once every 2 years, you're not maintaining your paint properly.

All of these coatings claim xyz years of protection, but these sealants lasting that long is just not the case. Set aside two hours every three months to reapply your wax / synthetic sealant, or a few hours every six months to top up your more robust coating like Cquarts, Opti Coat 2.0, McKee's paint sealant, etc.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2018 | 03:06 PM
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Ceramic Pro is now guaranteed for 5 years with an annual “top-up”. CQuartz is guaranteed for 2 years, but lasted 3 years for me.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2018 | 08:35 PM
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Have had several cars paint corrected and CQuartz Finest applied. Great stuff and the paint correction is a must to realize the full potential of your paint. This is especially true of pearls and metallics as well as black cars. Hit it with some IronX (quite stinky stuff) and Reload for the "top up" Unhingd mentioned.

Here's a pic of a black 2015 Hellcat I owned at one time. The paint reflects the grass like a mirror. It was a Dodge paint job with a professional fixin' that included paint correction and CQuartz.


 

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Old Sep 11, 2018 | 09:41 PM
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Dealers call Permaplate ‘mop and glow.’ It is pure profit for them. +1 on the paint correction and ceramic coating. I had 22ple put on and use ‘bead maker’ after washes. Not garaged. Still stunning after 2 years. $1100 for both. Usually dealer wants ~$600 for permaplate.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 07:34 AM
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Ceramic Pro is now guaranteed for 5 years with an annual “top-up”. CQuartz is guaranteed for 2 years, but lasted 3 years for me.
Did you professionally have Cquarts Finest installed or did you apply Cquartz (either US or UK versions) yourself? Cquartz finest is "guaranteed" to last longer and will last longer that it's off the shelf counterparts, but that guaranty comes with lots of "maintenance" caveats.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaggyx
Did you professionally have Cquarts Finest installed or did you apply Cquartz (either US or UK versions) yourself? Cquartz finest is "guaranteed" to last longer and will last longer that it's off the shelf counterparts, but that guaranty comes with lots of "maintenance" caveats.
I don’t have the necessary clean room environment to apply a ceramic coating. I let the professionals handle coatings, paint and bodywork. That all is more of an art than a science.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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I don’t have the necessary clean room environment to apply a ceramic coating. I let the professionals handle coatings, paint and bodywork. That all is more of an art than a science.
Okay, by clean room, I assume you mean a garage? If so, then yes, super tricky to apply the coating if the car were to sit outside 24/7. If you have a garage though, applying a coating doesn't take any particular skill outside of pain correction and then hitting the car with an IPA wipe to remove all residual polishing oils. Once that's done, you'd literally just apply a few drops to an applicator sponge and have at it. Plenty of youtube vids out there that show really how simple it is.

Now, if we're talking 9H stuff, I haven't messed with that at all so don't know what that application process entails, but Cquartz, McKee's, and Opticoat 2.0 are easy peasy.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 07:53 PM
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Yes, I mean a clean garage with no dust, particulates blowing around. Mine closely resembles Goober Beasley’s garage. Engine and transmission work gets done in a fairly sterile manner in my home office. (Before I got married, I used the living room, but certain behavioral adjustments were necessary to ensure marital bliss.) I can’t fit the car through the front door.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
can’t fit the car through the front door.
I've seen you drive - relativistic foreshortening is your friend.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaggyx
Okay, by clean room, I assume you mean a garage? If so, then yes, super tricky to apply the coating if the car were to sit outside 24/7. If you have a garage though, applying a coating doesn't take any particular skill outside of pain correction and then hitting the car with an IPA wipe to remove all residual polishing oils. Once that's done, you'd literally just apply a few drops to an applicator sponge and have at it. Plenty of youtube vids out there that show really how simple it is.

Now, if we're talking 9H stuff, I haven't messed with that at all so don't know what that application process entails, but Cquartz, McKee's, and Opticoat 2.0 are easy peasy.
Yea, I’ve had great results with Wolfgangs coating on my jet black 535. It’s all about the prep and correction, the ceramic application that follows is a piece of cake. The stuff flashes almost instantly. They also make a hydrophobic jeweling agent you can run over the coating with a PC and a gold or red superfine pad that can correct most water spots or streaking imperfections without removing the coating itself to sort of re-level the surface.
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The reflections you get are insane. Black can be especially rewarding. Eventually I’ll get around to doing the Jag..





 
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaggyx
Did you professionally have Cquarts Finest installed or did you apply Cquartz (either US or UK versions) yourself? Cquartz finest is "guaranteed" to last longer and will last longer that it's off the shelf counterparts, but that guaranty comes with lots of "maintenance" caveats.
Jaggyx: My understanding is there are several versions of CQuartz with varying amounts of different chemicals. The 'direct to consumer' is allegedly a 'lighter" mix and the certified installer version the hardcore stuff. I can't verify the marketing spin as I've had my cars done by a certified pro with paint correction.

I can say I've been very satisfied with the results. The maintenance is pretty much what you'd do for regular cleaning except with a set of chemicals specific to cleaning and refreshing the original application (IronX and Reload). Both are easily ordered and not bank breakers. My schedule doesn't allow for the time I once had to execute a proper detail with the traditional cleaners and waxes so, for me, the investment in paint correction and CQuartz is worth it.

 
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by WJV


Yea, I’ve had great results with Wolfgangs coating on my jet black 535. It’s all about the prep and correction, the ceramic application that follows is a piece of cake. The stuff flashes almost instantly. They also make a hydrophobic jeweling agent you can run over the coating with a PC and a gold or red superfine pad that can correct most water spots or streaking imperfections without removing the coating itself to sort of re-level the surface.
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The reflections you get are insane. Black can be especially rewarding. Eventually I’ll get around to doing the Jag..





Exactly! Super easy! Reflections look killer.

Originally Posted by Hayabusa
Jaggyx: My understanding is there are several versions of CQuartz with varying amounts of different chemicals. The 'direct to consumer' is allegedly a 'lighter" mix and the certified installer version the hardcore stuff. I can't verify the marketing spin as I've had my cars done by a certified pro with paint correction.

I can say I've been very satisfied with the results. The maintenance is pretty much what you'd do for regular cleaning except with a set of chemicals specific to cleaning and refreshing the original application (IronX and Reload). Both are easily ordered and not bank breakers. My schedule doesn't allow for the time I once had to execute a proper detail with the traditional cleaners and waxes so, for me, the investment in paint correction and CQuartz is worth it.
Yes, you're correct! There's Cquartz (Consumer), Cquartz UK (Consumer), and Cquartz finest ("Professional"). They deem it to be a professional install since unlike the consumer grade versions, Cquartz finest is a bit trickier to apply since it's stronger. However, watching an hours worth of youtube videos should give any competent individual enough confidence to apply it. It's not that scary!
 
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