Speeding Tickets
I thought the salesman in the car was going to cry. He kept saying , the car only has a few miles on it. I said, dont worry he's not gonna ticket me, and he didn't after my explanation that I was on a test drive and not familiar with the car
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That is a good question.
Not sure of the answer though. I was pulled over recently at 2300h on a Saturday night, in a town known for strict speed enforcement, by a marked Charger.
The officer asked if I had been drinking. Not much I replied. I asked why he pulled me over as I was not speeding. He said that I was going 45 MPH around the hairpin turn marked 15 MPH. I suggested the 15 MPH was in fact, just that, a suggested speed and the limit before the curve and after the curve is 45. I reminded him that I did not dip down and clip the apex but stayed in my lane. I advised that I was a trained and skilled HP driver and the car can easily handle this curve at 45. No other cars on the road.
He made my wife come get me!! 1.5 miles from home!
I think that if I were in a less thrilling car, he may have cuffed me and stuffed me. He told my wife that he did not want to ruin my life by arresting me because "it was obvious that I'm a hard working productive gentleman". He made me park the car in a strip mall under some lights and said I can get the car in the morning. My wife was furious. She drove me home and I walked straight back to Jag and drove it home.
No I wasn't drunk.
Not sure of the answer though. I was pulled over recently at 2300h on a Saturday night, in a town known for strict speed enforcement, by a marked Charger.
The officer asked if I had been drinking. Not much I replied. I asked why he pulled me over as I was not speeding. He said that I was going 45 MPH around the hairpin turn marked 15 MPH. I suggested the 15 MPH was in fact, just that, a suggested speed and the limit before the curve and after the curve is 45. I reminded him that I did not dip down and clip the apex but stayed in my lane. I advised that I was a trained and skilled HP driver and the car can easily handle this curve at 45. No other cars on the road.
He made my wife come get me!! 1.5 miles from home!
I think that if I were in a less thrilling car, he may have cuffed me and stuffed me. He told my wife that he did not want to ruin my life by arresting me because "it was obvious that I'm a hard working productive gentleman". He made me park the car in a strip mall under some lights and said I can get the car in the morning. My wife was furious. She drove me home and I walked straight back to Jag and drove it home.
No I wasn't drunk.
I was wondering why this was not talked in the forum, glad I did a quick search.
Just got my 2nd speeding ticket during a little over 1 year of ownership, 3rd if you count a verbal warning in between.
The first one was a 8 points 91 in 55 zone, caught by NY state trooper. Luckily my agency got the points all knocked off and I ended up "only" paying $800 in fees and fines.
Second was a 95 in a highway work zone(30mph limit maybe?), I saw the cones but no workers so don't flame me on that Y_Y Caught by a unmarked toyota sienna...would have never guessed, again very lucky this time, a simple verbal warning after asking if I were smoking weed. I'm also glad that I wasn't caught doing 130 in the same day, 30minutes before the stop, in a friendly "race" with a bmw m8, quoted since we were just doing straight line pulls in fairly open traffic, I rolled down the window and we gave each other a thumb up at the end.
The 3rd one, happened right now, was less than 2miles from exit to home, dang!!! caught by NYPD patrol, 97 in 50zone. I was so confident ever since I installed carplay and always have waze on the homepage. Guess im the first one to spot the cop this time. finger crossed how this one will turn out. I do notice the cop didn't ask for my insurance and registration this time, only took my ID, and checked "no" on "owner is operator", which I actually am. Don't think it matters much though..
If this keeps happening, my insurance bill will soon eclipse my monthly payment haha.
Just got my 2nd speeding ticket during a little over 1 year of ownership, 3rd if you count a verbal warning in between.
The first one was a 8 points 91 in 55 zone, caught by NY state trooper. Luckily my agency got the points all knocked off and I ended up "only" paying $800 in fees and fines.
Second was a 95 in a highway work zone(30mph limit maybe?), I saw the cones but no workers so don't flame me on that Y_Y Caught by a unmarked toyota sienna...would have never guessed, again very lucky this time, a simple verbal warning after asking if I were smoking weed. I'm also glad that I wasn't caught doing 130 in the same day, 30minutes before the stop, in a friendly "race" with a bmw m8, quoted since we were just doing straight line pulls in fairly open traffic, I rolled down the window and we gave each other a thumb up at the end.
The 3rd one, happened right now, was less than 2miles from exit to home, dang!!! caught by NYPD patrol, 97 in 50zone. I was so confident ever since I installed carplay and always have waze on the homepage. Guess im the first one to spot the cop this time. finger crossed how this one will turn out. I do notice the cop didn't ask for my insurance and registration this time, only took my ID, and checked "no" on "owner is operator", which I actually am. Don't think it matters much though..
If this keeps happening, my insurance bill will soon eclipse my monthly payment haha.
Minor errors on tickets won't really make a difference. I've had a ticket list the wrong model, year, and color and it didn't do much because the plate was on there. Also, a Toyota Sienna?? Seriously.. that's low of that PD.
and yes, a harmless looking toyota sienna, something that I won't even give half a glance, pulled me over. Now thinking of it, it might be an off duty officer in his personal car, maybe that's why he didn't give me a ticket, hmmm...
Reading posts from US members, it appears that speeding is monitored by Police Officers and enforced at the time. I can see the logic in this active enforcement.
In the UK (and increasingly across Europe) we are plagued with "Safety" Cameras to remotely and automatically enforce speed limits. The first I would know of a speeding offence would be around 14 days after the event with a fine notification in the post. There is no logical arguement that this retrospective action has anything to do with safety or is anything more than a revenue gathering exercise. I have a safety camera detector in my vehicle which is legal and has prevented getting any tickets.
The French Gendarmerie make no pretence of safety being the motive and freely admit that speeding fines are monitored by Police Officers simply to raise revenue. The last one to stop me imposed the minimum fine because I had slowed immediately after being "flashed" and allowed him to get behind me. He was more interested in seeing my Jaguar than the fine and might even have ignored me if I'd been driving a French car. Sadly, active enforcement is being replaced by cameras which are rapidly prolifiterating across the country but at least there are official advance warning signs. Camera detectors are illegal. If caught using one it will be confiscated and you will be fined or even jailed.
Spain has begun to understand the revenue raising potential of speed cameras. Six weeks after returning home from my last trip I received a fine in the post. I'd been pinged by one of their "stealth cameras" on a five mile straight empty four lane road. These "stealth cameras" are small and hidden. There is no warning. Again, camera detectors are illegal.
The Italian Police still have an enlightened view of those driving performance vehicles fast and safely but I suspect the days are numbered for this lenient approach.
Graham
In the UK (and increasingly across Europe) we are plagued with "Safety" Cameras to remotely and automatically enforce speed limits. The first I would know of a speeding offence would be around 14 days after the event with a fine notification in the post. There is no logical arguement that this retrospective action has anything to do with safety or is anything more than a revenue gathering exercise. I have a safety camera detector in my vehicle which is legal and has prevented getting any tickets.
The French Gendarmerie make no pretence of safety being the motive and freely admit that speeding fines are monitored by Police Officers simply to raise revenue. The last one to stop me imposed the minimum fine because I had slowed immediately after being "flashed" and allowed him to get behind me. He was more interested in seeing my Jaguar than the fine and might even have ignored me if I'd been driving a French car. Sadly, active enforcement is being replaced by cameras which are rapidly prolifiterating across the country but at least there are official advance warning signs. Camera detectors are illegal. If caught using one it will be confiscated and you will be fined or even jailed.
Spain has begun to understand the revenue raising potential of speed cameras. Six weeks after returning home from my last trip I received a fine in the post. I'd been pinged by one of their "stealth cameras" on a five mile straight empty four lane road. These "stealth cameras" are small and hidden. There is no warning. Again, camera detectors are illegal.
The Italian Police still have an enlightened view of those driving performance vehicles fast and safely but I suspect the days are numbered for this lenient approach.
Graham
I often drive down from the mountains where I live and cross stretches of California desert. The speed limit on those highways is 55 MPH. It is difficult to maintain that speed. The CHP uses marked SUV's with some type of vehicle mounted radar systems. They often hide in patches of shade or just past the crest of a rise so they are hard to see until you are almost upon them. I was ticketed last year, not long after moving to this area (not in a Jaguar F Type) for doing 71 in a 55 zone. It cost me about $425 in fines, an expensive lesson. And the officer didn't accept my excuse that I was unfamiliar with the roads and speed limits. The speed limit signs are pretty prominent and the HUD in my car displays speed limits and vehicle speed. It was about 8 AM on a bright sunny day with no traffic and tooling along at around 70 MPH didn't seem excessive. But the law is the law and I learned that those areas are frequently patrolled and enforced.
Radar detectors are not illegal in CA, but they cannot be windshield mounted. I understand though that there are some pretty tiny models these days that can be mounted up near the mirror and are pretty stealthy. Any suggestions from California drivers ?
Also, I have never tried the WAZE app. Doesn't that rely on users reporting speed traps or enforcement activities in able to get warning notices from WAZE ?
Radar detectors are not illegal in CA, but they cannot be windshield mounted. I understand though that there are some pretty tiny models these days that can be mounted up near the mirror and are pretty stealthy. Any suggestions from California drivers ?
Also, I have never tried the WAZE app. Doesn't that rely on users reporting speed traps or enforcement activities in able to get warning notices from WAZE ?
Last edited by Dwight Frye; Jan 25, 2021 at 09:28 AM.
Graham
My UPS driver, a former traffic policeman after seeing my 2016 F-Type R in the garage told me this -- When the traffic police pull you over and then they come up to your driver door and ask ...."Do you know why I stopped you?" What you should say is "Because I let ya".........:-))
I think they will be on zoom from now on. Half the time of the original course and it was no bother really.
Reading posts from US members, it appears that speeding is monitored by Police Officers and enforced at the time. I can see the logic in this active enforcement.
In the UK (and increasingly across Europe) we are plagued with "Safety" Cameras to remotely and automatically enforce speed limits. The first I would know of a speeding offence would be around 14 days after the event with a fine notification in the post. There is no logical arguement that this retrospective action has anything to do with safety or is anything more than a revenue gathering exercise. I have a safety camera detector in my vehicle which is legal and has prevented getting any tickets.
The French Gendarmerie make no pretence of safety being the motive and freely admit that speeding fines are monitored by Police Officers simply to raise revenue. The last one to stop me imposed the minimum fine because I had slowed immediately after being "flashed" and allowed him to get behind me. He was more interested in seeing my Jaguar than the fine and might even have ignored me if I'd been driving a French car. Sadly, active enforcement is being replaced by cameras which are rapidly prolifiterating across the country but at least there are official advance warning signs. Camera detectors are illegal. If caught using one it will be confiscated and you will be fined or even jailed.
Spain has begun to understand the revenue raising potential of speed cameras. Six weeks after returning home from my last trip I received a fine in the post. I'd been pinged by one of their "stealth cameras" on a five mile straight empty four lane road. These "stealth cameras" are small and hidden. There is no warning. Again, camera detectors are illegal.
The Italian Police still have an enlightened view of those driving performance vehicles fast and safely but I suspect the days are numbered for this lenient approach.
Graham
In the UK (and increasingly across Europe) we are plagued with "Safety" Cameras to remotely and automatically enforce speed limits. The first I would know of a speeding offence would be around 14 days after the event with a fine notification in the post. There is no logical arguement that this retrospective action has anything to do with safety or is anything more than a revenue gathering exercise. I have a safety camera detector in my vehicle which is legal and has prevented getting any tickets.
The French Gendarmerie make no pretence of safety being the motive and freely admit that speeding fines are monitored by Police Officers simply to raise revenue. The last one to stop me imposed the minimum fine because I had slowed immediately after being "flashed" and allowed him to get behind me. He was more interested in seeing my Jaguar than the fine and might even have ignored me if I'd been driving a French car. Sadly, active enforcement is being replaced by cameras which are rapidly prolifiterating across the country but at least there are official advance warning signs. Camera detectors are illegal. If caught using one it will be confiscated and you will be fined or even jailed.
Spain has begun to understand the revenue raising potential of speed cameras. Six weeks after returning home from my last trip I received a fine in the post. I'd been pinged by one of their "stealth cameras" on a five mile straight empty four lane road. These "stealth cameras" are small and hidden. There is no warning. Again, camera detectors are illegal.
The Italian Police still have an enlightened view of those driving performance vehicles fast and safely but I suspect the days are numbered for this lenient approach.
Graham
In the US, it is enforced by both the camera and police. Most local roads have cameras, and cops ofcourse. Highway is strictly police patrol(at least in NY), no cameras that I have heard of.
One very important distinction between the two, is that camera caught speeding will never accumulate points on your driving record, you just pay a flat fee(they do mention if you have more than x amount of camera tickets in a x time, you are required to attend some safety class). Police caught speeding, on the other hand, will definitely incur some points on your record, fines on the low side, increased insurance premium in the middle, and loss of driving privilege+insurance premium increase on the severe side.
I won't say it is 100% for revenue generation, even though I do feel it's often times the case.
For starters, road/traffic condition, car type, car condition, driver skill and weather will all decide what the safe speed is for that particular moment. But how do you design a law that factor in all these parameters? Do you tell the judge that you are Lewis Hamilton driving a bats mobile that's capable of scanning a a radius of 10miles and alert you of a tiny pebble the exact position accurate to the 10th of a mm, so you are justified to drive 217mph?
Or can you tell someone that's 81 years old with a 35years old car that shows its age, that they are unsafe to travel the highway at more than 47mph? You get the idea.
no tickets for me and i like to speed. FYI in California LIDAR (laser) is much more common than radar, especially for CHP sitting on the freeway shoulder. moving CHP cars have both forward and rearward facing radars.








