Swap my R for a California?
#43
Take him up on the deal and tell him if you don't like the Ferrari you will not ask for your F-Type back BUT you would trade it in or sell it. If he does not mind then go for it - it's a win win for you.
If you don't like the California then get rid of it. Buy a SVR or Project 7 with the extra cash. Or get another R and offer him the difference, after all he is a friend.
If you don't like the California then get rid of it. Buy a SVR or Project 7 with the extra cash. Or get another R and offer him the difference, after all he is a friend.
#44
Here's my take since I was a former Ferrari owner (2007 F430 coupe). I traded my F430 even up for my F Type R. If you decide to go for the California know that when the warranty is done, you want to be done. These cars are not inexpensive to maintain. You want to have a good shop/dealer nearby. A water/oil pump assembly will set you back around $4500 installed. A clutch will go for a minimum of $6500 installed. Fortunately the newer cars have the dual clutch so they last longer. These are prices from an inde shop. Add a few grand more for dealer repairs. The value plummets once you cross the 20K mile mark. If it's an itch to scratch then drive it until the warranty is up. Would I make the trade? I would have to say no.
#45
Even compared to more mundane offerings such as BMW/Porsche/Mercedes, Jag parts appear to be relatively inexpensive. Complete clutch/flywheel/throwout bearing for the F-Type is cheaper than for my MINI. R&R is straight forward, requiring no special training, and should cost no more than 6 hours shop time to accomplish. the remaining mechanical systems of the car are similarly simple to repair and maintain. The huge unknown costs are the electrical and electronic bits and pieces.
#46
Don't let my post scare you. The F430 is a great car as Ferrari's go. No timing belts to worry about and if they're driven regularly they hold up well. My water/oil pump fail was a weeping front seal. That happens when a car sits too long. My reason for letting it go is my area doesn't really support ownership. There is only one shop that I trust and it's 1.5 hours away and his schedule is always booked. Lots of wait time to get things done. The closest dealers are 6 hours away (Atlanta or Orlando). If you're handy with a wrench there are a lot of things you can do on your own. I changed out the complete exhaust system, installed factory air horns which required front bumper removal, installed a new stereo, and changed out the brake pads to ceramics. I put 5K miles on it in two years. The previous owners only managed 8200 miles in 7 years.
#47
While I understand the collectibility and monetary values of such low mileage, I will never understand not driving a car, any car regardless of its rarity, for its sheer pleasure. Besides cars as art (and, sure, for some as investment) cars are meant to be driven!
#49
No, he didn't tell me that.....only that I have to buy him lunch for the next 2 years! lol.
He's actually an orthodontist. (I'm a general dentist). I've referred him a ton of patients over the last 15 years that I've known him. That actually comes out to a lot of $$$ in referred business I've given him. So actually, it may not be such a good deal after all? lol.
He's actually an orthodontist. (I'm a general dentist). I've referred him a ton of patients over the last 15 years that I've known him. That actually comes out to a lot of $$$ in referred business I've given him. So actually, it may not be such a good deal after all? lol.
If he's serious, I'd do it in a skinny minute!
Is the Ferrari still under any kind of factory warranty?
#52
#54
Absolutely. You put your friendship before money and you love your F Type as it is. The good things in life come from relationships (with people, animals and objects), and almost all of the bad things originate with money or greed in some form.
#55
+1. It just kills me to see garage and trailer queens. If I can't consider a vehicle to be a daily driver, I don't want it.
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#56
Easier said than done with some cars. You might have read my post regarding my 65 corvette convertible residing in my basement with no way to get it out. For this particular car I'd rather look at it than deal with driving it. It's really a pita - manual windows, steering, and brakes. And even getting it inspected is an ordeal with the knock off rims requiring a lead mallet to get them off. My views may change when I retire. Who knows.
#57
Easier said than done with some cars. You might have read my post regarding my 65 corvette convertible residing in my basement with no way to get it out. For this particular car I'd rather look at it than deal with driving it. It's really a pita - manual windows, steering, and brakes. And even getting it inspected is an ordeal with the knock off rims requiring a lead mallet to get them off. My views may change when I retire. Who knows.
#58
I see it everyday and adding anything to a matching number collectible is a no-no.
If it were not such a hassle I'd be out driving it but it does take a lot (forgot to mention the need for non ethanol fuel, and lead additive). I think for now it's best to just leave her where she is and enjoy the F-Type. It appreciates a little every year and easy to justify keeping vs selling.
If it were not such a hassle I'd be out driving it but it does take a lot (forgot to mention the need for non ethanol fuel, and lead additive). I think for now it's best to just leave her where she is and enjoy the F-Type. It appreciates a little every year and easy to justify keeping vs selling.
#59
#60
Goes back to the mindset. I don't see cars as investments or collectibles. I see them as toys (that conveniently double as transportation). Not that one is more right than the other. It's just a totally different paradigm.