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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 10:02 PM
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I don't want to risk voiding my warranty by installing a tune and something unexpected happening and being up a crick without a paddle. (see blown engine thread)

Can anyone link me to this blown engine thread? Trying to get as much info as possible before tuning.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 10:12 PM
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 01:07 AM
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Thanks a ton watson!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MarcFTR
For me it was always going to be a V8. I wasn't going to make the same mistake I did with my R8. Great car, but I was always looking at V10's.

Problem now I keep looking at ceramics brakes. Why can't I be happy!!!
As Mr. Ricky Jay started to say, research shows that things (purchases) don't keep the human happy, experiences and memories do. I went for the V8 so my experiences would be more memorable from the start.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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watson6505, I see Allentown on your plates. I live in Hershey. If you want to drive a VAP tuned and lower pulley v6s i would welcome to meet up with you. But you have to be able to drive a manual!
Let me know.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 09:42 AM
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Thanks stwsam...and, yes, I can drive a manual. My last 'exotic' was an early 90's NSX with a manual (which was also awesome, btw). The next time my kid has a baseball tourney in Herhsey, I will hit you up. How long have you had the tune? Did you notice the difference in daily driving? Significant or marginal? Where did you notice it the most (certain gears. speeds, rpms, all, track only, etc...).

For me, I noticed a slight difference between the base V6 and the V6s, and a big difference between the V6s and the V8s. I want the difference to be smaller between the V6s and V8s :-)


Thanks again for the offer!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jaguny
I went for the V8 so my experiences would be more memorable from the start.
From 0-60MPH, my memorable experience lasts a second longer than yours.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jaguny
As Mr. Ricky Jay started to say, research shows that things (purchases) don't keep the human happy, experiences and memories do. I went for the V8 so my experiences would be more memorable from the start.
But you purchase things that give you good experiences. So its the same thing isn't it.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by watson6505
Thanks stwsam...and, yes, I can drive a manual. My last 'exotic' was an early 90's NSX with a manual (which was also awesome, btw). The next time my kid has a baseball tourney in Herhsey, I will hit you up. How long have you had the tune? Did you notice the difference in daily driving? Significant or marginal? Where did you notice it the most (certain gears. speeds, rpms, all, track only, etc...).

For me, I noticed a slight difference between the base V6 and the V6s, and a big difference between the V6s and the V8s. I want the difference to be smaller between the V6s and V8s :-)


Thanks again for the offer!
The difference between 340 and 380 horses his slight. The difference between 380 and 450 horses is huge. The resulting power to weight ratio is almost as great as on a V8S.
 

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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
The difference between 340 and 380 horses his slight. The difference between 380 and 450 horses is huge. The resulting power to weight ratio is almost as great as on a V8S.
think driving aling and a fifty pound sledge hammer hits you from behind. That is the kind of surge you get from this mod. Sales manager at local dealer took it out one day by himself. This is a guy that is really into his cars. His words were "I can not believe the power difference. This may be better than an R. You are mixing a lot more power with a lighter more balanced feel . When I say night and day I mean it. Pm and I will get you my contact info!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stwsam
think driving aling and a fifty pound sledge hammer hits you from behind. That is the kind of surge you get from this mod. Sales manager at local dealer took it out one day by himself. This is a guy that is really into his cars. His words were "I can not believe the power difference. This may be better than an R. You are mixing a lot more power with a lighter more balanced feel . When I say night and day I mean it. Pm and I will get you my contact info!
I've got the 420hp "ECU only" mod and I don't really feel like I get hit by a sledge hammer. Would 30 more HP really make that big of a difference?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdaddy
But you purchase things that give you good experiences. So its the same thing isn't it.
I think when you share them with other like minded individuals such as on this forum, yes. See Lobster Run thread as a shining example.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
The difference between 340 and 380 horses his slight. The difference between 380 and 450 horses is huge. The resulting power to weight ratio is almost as great as on a V8S.
....almost.


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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 06:26 AM
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Seriously dude. You have a great car with a great sound and as much power as you can usefully use. You are going to take a bath on the changeover, paint your damn calipers and go out and enjoy your car.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 06:43 AM
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The F type is a great and fun car with any engine and in the end its all personal preference.

Originally I took out both and loved the torque of the v-8 and since have tuned it.. the acceleration, sound etc. .. I would have had buyers remorse if I settled for the 6, however I'm sure I would have gotten over it fairly quickly.

No doubt I also would not have stoked my concerns by asking forum members what they preferred and if they would have suffered remorse from the purchase. Your 6 is still a great ride and can be tuned as well if you want more power, as has been mentioned.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 07:42 AM
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I mentioned the potential swap to the V8s to the wife last night and she looked at me like I had 3 heads. It does seem rather silly less than a month after buying the V6s. If there was an option to just get the tune and move on without constantly worrying that the engine was gonna blow, that would likely suffice.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DPelletier
useful shmuseful......you can't use the full capabilities of a Honda Civic without potentially getting arrested. ;-)

Lets face it: NONE of the maximum capabilities of our cars (or ANY other high performance vehicle) are particularly useful on public roads. There is no good reason for any of them to be built if thats the yardstick......we should all be driving Lada's.


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If capability is not a consideration, then why not just buy a V8 badge, hood vents, retrofit dual pipes, and viola you have a car you wanted. Bonus - you already have V8 block installed from factory, as V6 and V8 share it.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by watson6505
I mentioned the potential swap to the V8s to the wife last night and she looked at me like I had 3 heads. It does seem rather silly less than a month after buying the V6s. If there was an option to just get the tune and move on without constantly worrying that the engine was gonna blow, that would likely suffice.
I don't think you will have problems with the engine blowing if you go with a legitimate tune.

The guy with the blown engine had some crazy tune installed that promised 100+ HP off just an ECU mod. Many people on the forums warned him about it before the engine blew. Now if it was the tunes fault or not is hard to say, but thats all we know so far.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 08:39 AM
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Based upon what I am reading here, I would go with the Velocity tune...get er up to over 400hp and maybe/maybe not do the pulley. Problem is the pulley is a dead visual give away that the tune likely exists.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by watson6505
I mentioned the potential swap to the V8s to the wife last night and she looked at me like I had 3 heads. It does seem rather silly less than a month after buying the V6s. If there was an option to just get the tune and move on without constantly worrying that the engine was gonna blow, that would likely suffice.
AFAIK there is only one instance of an engine being blown and that may or may not have had anything to do with a tune. I have a tune and don't lose any sleep over the engine blowing up, based on the reputation of VAP and the other members who went the same route before me. I don't track my car of course so maybe I don't put it under "extra" strain. I sleep okay at night because the same engine is rated at a number of different outputs depending on how much money you paid Jaguar to unlock it with the trim level. So it's not like I doubled the output or anything. If Jaguar felt happy their powertrain could handle it "officially" then I am not having panic attacks about the aftermarket stuff I have in place. Does it transform a base V6 - yes, yes it does.

So for me, as I got my V6 with the trim bells and whistles I wanted after the depreciation someone else paid, I couldn't be happier and am not pining for the V8. Had one of them in my XFR so already checked that off the list.

A bit like the "stick or automatic" threads, horses for courses. Don't believe that the V6 is "second best" for everyone. Now the 4 cylinder, well maybe that's pushing it, but I suspect that NA market isn't the primary demographic.
 
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