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VelocityAP 58mm Upper Pulley for Jaguar Range Rover AJ126 3.0L V6 Engines

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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
No new belt needed, Stuart already answered my question on this, see post #5.
Dunno about 93 vs 91 but I suspect 91 would still be OK.
Tks @OzXFR i did see his reply but I saw you had a tensioner change too? I didn't need a tesnioner change so just wanted to be sure.

I've been using 91 on stage 2 tune and I've not hand any issues so far but if this requires 93 then every full tank of fuel will cost me bout $30. 93 where i live is bout $3.30/l
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 03:22 AM
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475/470 sounds enticing. Although for those of us with MT's, I would be worried about the strain on the ZF S6-45 which has a torque limit supposedly around ~350ft-lb which is already well exceed by the 450hp of Stage 2. I wish we had the S6-53's!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 06:30 AM
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HI Stuart, @Stuart@VelocityAP
I'm sorry for asking something not related to pulley.
Does the car on dyno have a TCU tune ? It upshift at 6900 rpm. I'm really interested in the tune for 8hp45.
Sorry for asking rudely. English is not my mother language. I will try to learn how to communicate politely.
I love VAP products and services. Thank you, Stuart. For answering our questions with patience.
 

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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 10:48 AM
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by darkhorze
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Would this smaller pulley bring the sc rpm even closer to the manufacturer's limits? I remembered some talk that the larger crank pulley brought the sc rpm very close to the limits

I've the crank pulley and gearbox tune. By changing to this pulley, do I need a new belt? the belt I'm on is 1461.

I assume your stage 3 tune will also factor in the gearbox tune?

Is the tune strictly for octane 93? can it run on octane 91?
The 1320 is rated at a max speed of 20,000RPM. At 7000RPM redline for example, this puts the speed just over 21120. Lots of people running 24,000+ on the same charger on other applications but they start to need cooling upgrades. With our dual pulley setup, you hit maximum 'rated' speed of the supercharger at 6600 RPM. So, you can always short shift if you're concerned about it, and frankly with the beefier torque curve that's a good option anyway. So short answer, yes it's marginally over the rated speed if you wring it out but not by enough that we are concerned about it.

You don't need a new belt, but not a bad time to change it if you've had it on for a while.

The tune will be set up for whatever you have, if you have a TCU upgrade it will be factored into your Stage 3 tune. If not, no.

It can run on 91 Octane, it's just possible you might see some timing correction. Depends on the 91 Octane, what additive mixes it has. Washington State 92 is better than our BC 94.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMatcha
HI Stuart, @Stuart@VelocityAP
I'm sorry for asking something not related to pulley.
Does the car on dyno have a TCU tune ? It upshift at 6900 rpm. I'm really interested in the tune for 8hp45.
Sorry for asking rudely. English is not my mother language. I will try to learn how to communicate politely.
I love VAP products and services. Thank you, Stuart. For answering our questions with patience.
It does have the TCU tune, yes. And we can provide tuning for the ZF8HP45
 
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Old Mar 4, 2022 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
The 1320 is rated at a max speed of 20,000RPM. At 7000RPM redline for example, this puts the speed just over 21120. Lots of people running 24,000+ on the same charger on other applications but they start to need cooling upgrades. With our dual pulley setup, you hit maximum 'rated' speed of the supercharger at 6600 RPM. So, you can always short shift if you're concerned about it, and frankly with the beefier torque curve that's a good option anyway. So short answer, yes it's marginally over the rated speed if you wring it out but not by enough that we are concerned about it.

You don't need a new belt, but not a bad time to change it if you've had it on for a while.

The tune will be set up for whatever you have, if you have a TCU upgrade it will be factored into your Stage 3 tune. If not, no.

It can run on 91 Octane, it's just possible you might see some timing correction. Depends on the 91 Octane, what additive mixes it has. Washington State 92 is better than our BC 94.

Thanks @Stuart@VelocityAP. Any pre-order promo or gotta wait until black Friday? 😅
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 03:01 AM
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Stuart, another silly question:
For those of us who already have the larger crank pulley and stage 2 tune, what is the process for applying the stage 3 tune?
Can we just flash it straight over the top of the stage 2 tune or do we need to revert to the OEM tune first, and do we need to send you either the stage 2 tune file or the OEM tune file so you can build the stage 3 tune file with it?

 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
Stuart, another silly question:
and do we need to send you either the stage 2 tune file or the OEM tune file so you can build the stage 3 tune file with it?
I run 2017 FP with Stage 2 and Transmission tune. Waiting for this to go live and feedbacks to chip in. BTW I am fairly sure you can send any of your previous files (original factory or stage1/2) so that VAP can send you stage3.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2022 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
Stuart, another silly question:
For those of us who already have the larger crank pulley and stage 2 tune, what is the process for applying the stage 3 tune?
Can we just flash it straight over the top of the stage 2 tune or do we need to revert to the OEM tune first, and do we need to send you either the stage 2 tune file or the OEM tune file so you can build the stage 3 tune file with it?
You can flash it over whatever stage file is on the ECU. You can submit an original or a stage 2 to have it upgraded, doesn't really matter.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2022 | 01:22 AM
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Just wondering if anyone has installed the kit yet and what type of numbers they are getting in quarter mile, 0-60 etc. or any overall thoughts on the performance increase

thanks,
 
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Old Jun 3, 2022 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jaguarxe35t
Just wondering if anyone has installed the kit yet and what type of numbers they are getting in quarter mile, 0-60 etc. or any overall thoughts on the performance increase

thanks,
I'm in the process of trying to get my stage 3 installed. I won't be doing any 1/4 miles for time but am planning on getting my car dyno'd before (completely stock '16 S manual) and after the stage 3 tune and will report back.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2022 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jaguarxe35t
Just wondering if anyone has installed the kit yet and what type of numbers they are getting in quarter mile, 0-60 etc. or any overall thoughts on the performance increase

thanks,
VAP Stage 2 at the Moment with TCU Update (limit 7.000 rpm) but on the V8 R AWD Model!
And I have only times for km/h...
P-Gear 610 is my Laptimer:
0-100 km/h 3,50 Sec.
100-200 km/h 7,05 Sec.
1/4 Mile I think round about 11 Sec. never test it at the moment
With Stage 3 it will be under 11 Sec. for the 1/4 Mile, perhaps 10,80 Sec. in Summer, I will switch to Stage3 and give you an update...
My car is not the same as 2 years ago. It was fast, and its feeling fast... what nice Stage2 and TCU Update over HP Tuner :-) I love it.
Andi
 
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Old Jun 13, 2022 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by takeapieandrun
475/470 sounds enticing. Although for those of us with MT's, I would be worried about the strain on the ZF S6-45 which has a torque limit supposedly around ~350ft-lb which is already well exceed by the 450hp of Stage 2. I wish we had the S6-53's!

I don't know exactly how many MT owners there are on here who also got the Stage 2 (can't be very many).
I'm one. I've only had mine since last September and it's been great so far.
I think there are a few others MT owners who've been running Stage 2 for quite a while without major issues, but don't quote me (been away from the forum for a bit; not totally up-to-date).

Anyway, I figure: what harm could 475/470 do that 450/440 wouldn't have done already? Would it be just fine (under the foot of a competent and mechanically sympathetic driver, of course) or would it be the straw that breaks the camel's back?

It is damn enticing though...

 

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Old Jun 13, 2022 | 07:04 AM
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Would someone please explain the difference between a stage 2 and stage 3? (I've been out of touch for awhile.)
 
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Old Jun 13, 2022 | 07:18 AM
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I think you’re stage 3. My guess:
Stage 1: tune only
Stage 2: tune + crank pulley
Stage 3: tune + crank + SC pulley
 
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Old Jun 13, 2022 | 07:38 AM
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I think you’re stage 3. My guess:
Stage 1: tune only
Stage 2: tune + crank pulley
Stage 3: tune + crank + SC pulley
If that's the case, since Luc has an MT (V6), there's little added value in a stage 3. I changed out my SC pulley before the crank pulleys were available.and the extra 5-7 hp is not worth the cost and effort. At this point, I would not do it. I wouldn't be able to feel the difference.
Definitely some value in a stage 3 on the V8, though.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2022 | 11:58 AM
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Speaking of the v6 case: from what I’ve read on this thread and on their site, it sounds like VAP is now able to wring out an extra 25hp/30tq on top of what the crank pulley offers by virtue of their new SC pulley design (griptec)?

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2022 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rbsj
I'm in the process of trying to get my stage 3 installed. I won't be doing any 1/4 miles for time but am planning on getting my car dyno'd before (completely stock '16 S manual) and after the stage 3 tune and will report back.
I’ll be watching this space intently for updates
 
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Old Jun 13, 2022 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Luc Lapierre
Speaking of the v6 case: from what I’ve read on this thread and on their site, it sounds like VAP is now able to wring out an extra 25hp/30tq on top of what the crank pulley offers by virtue of their new SC pulley design (griptec)?

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
You are correct except that a different tune is needed with the smaller SC pulley + crank pulley vs just crank pulley. Put another way, Stage 3 needs a different tune than Stage 2 to get the full extra 25 neddies, just whacking on the smaller SC pulley by itself (on top of the crank pulley + tune) won't do the trick.
 
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