The monetary value of any commodity is [market] determined by its desirability and scarcity. Paradoxically, one of the most desirable attributes of our F type experience is their scarcity, but not born out of a lack of production, but instead, a paucity of demand. Unfortunately, the dark cloud of unreliability still shrouds the Jaguar brand, a reputation I am sure gave many of us pause before we pulled the trigger, as well.

I am looking at selling my F type very soon and I'll be lucky just to take a moderate financial hit. Of course, I knew this would most likely be the case, but the way I figure it, this is the price you pay to experience a car like this. Had F types been as popular as 911's or Corvettes, it would certainly have lessened the thrill of ownership.

As the F type prices drop further, these cars might see a similar fate to the 7 series BMW's and S class Mercs of the past whose residual values dropped like a rock after lease termination. Those who scooped up these "bargains" soon found out that they cost more to fix than they did to buy.

Time will tell, but some years hence, there is little doubt that these amazing cars will assume their rightful place among the classic sports and GT cars of the modern era as collectors will be paying dearly for nice examples. Although I will be long gone, I hope my car survives well into the future so others can enjoy a truly wonderful driving experience.

Don't really understand it either. Classic design beautifully executed. Fun to drive. Doesn't have Razor sharp handling of a Porsche, Lotus, etc. but decent for a GT car. My guesses:

1) it doesn't appeal to enthusiasts as it is a GT car, and doesn't have the razors edge feel of a Porsche, Lotus, Ferrari, etc. It's a car marketed to those who value a balance of design, performance, comfort. Enthusiasts make up a small percentage of the market.

2) SUVs rule nowadays. The non enthusiast will usually opt for convenience and room over driving experience. And with some of the hot SUVs on the market, they compete favorably in performance to the F-Type (or good enough for average folks). Why go for a 2 seater with a cramped interior when I can do 0-60 in 3 seconds in my Tesla SUV?

3) Porsche, Mercedes, Ferrari have brand cachet. No matter how good a car is, you can't beat the history and marketing that comes with those brands. Jaguar doesn't have it. BMW doesnt have it. Lotus doesn't have it (great cars!). Even Aston doesn't have it. And you can see it in the depreciation of all of them. Corvette is a little different, but has a more localized appeal to the US market.

We all should know this when buying or selling any of these brands. It is what it is.

The solution? Keep your Jag

Time will tell gentlemen.

I am a Newby to being a Jag owner and this forum, but am very excited about my car and what pleasure it is going to bring me. My mother (GRHS) always had Jags, I learnt to drive in an E-Type at 14, massive wooden steering wheel that I could barely see over, but I never owned a Jag until a week ago. I was a Lotus flower when I was younger and in the UK!

I sort out a pre-face-lift F Type R V8 convertible 2020.

I think that because of what Jaguar has done to itself recently (shame) that our cars will start to be sort after and coveted by the owners who hung on to them. I plan on having mine for the foreseeable future as all my kids are grown and it’s just me and the missus now.

I’m not sure what spec yours is, but I spent nearly a year looking for my beauty. I was specific to a point but the V8’s are either tracked out or high mileage. The number of SVR’s in the US was limited too so they will hold up going forward.

I really feel that at some point the petrol heads that have children petrol heads will never go electric and will be looking for something other than a Corvette. There are 50 corvettes for sale for every one V8 Jag out there, so that tells me all I need to know about that.

Yes, I agree that the Jags get a bad reputation with reliability, but after 2016 when they move the hood vents I think the reputation is better. I can only speak to the V8 as I did see a lot of the other small engine versions for sale, so I think it could be more about the engine.

I would be interested to know what is going to be your next car to match the beauty and line of the Jag. Good luck with your search, I am glad mine is over, I was driving all my friend and family and especially my wife crazy talking about it for a year.

My humble opinion.

Kind regards

DMAC

Many folks have postulated the same thing. And so far they a have been proven wrong. Most of us here are enthusiasts, so we naturally think the world is full of enthusiasts that will covet the loud and rebellious F-Type over their sterile electric cars. I think the reality is, most people will continue to love their suvs and electric cars while Jaguars continue to depreciate. There are not that many of us who have the passion for these cars unfortunately. I wouldn't go in thinking you're going to have a classic car that goes up in value - I'd drive it like any other car and have fun 😀

Except for maybe most Porsche and definitely Ferrari 2 seat cars just don't have a mass appeal. SL's don't sell in any significant numbers any more and the numbers for 911 really aren't very big.

The relative scarcity of these cars is one of the primary reasons I purchased my 2021 Type R. Originally I was in the market for a Porsche 911 and while I still prefer the handling of a Porsche over the Jag, I don't race my car, nor rarely do I need such precision handling on a daily basis. Also, I see more 911's on the road than F type Jags and that makes me happy. I've never been one that likes to drive boring cars that blend in with the masses. So for less money, I was able to pick up my Jag. It features more power than the 911 base or S models and has more room for my golf clubs. Finally the styling of the car is exotic to say the least and it gives me a smile every time I look at it. Finally, I saved thousands of dollars when I purchased my car precisely because the brand doesn't hold its value like a Porsche.

I'm keep my F-Type till I can't drive it anymore. It's a 2024 and is one of the last of the big supercharged V8s, especially with AWD, for the price I paid.

F-Type is niche so it stands out at most Cars & Coffee events. I think I see more Mclarens than F-Types at the big events.

@TangledThorns I couldn't agree more. It took me 40+ years since driving my first Jag to get the Jag Bug, but now I'm 100% in. Unless you get into the super rich cars, I don't see a car out there with the uniqueness and appeal of the Jaguar. I will also drive mine until I can't drive anymore. At 6000 miles on a 2020, I have a lot of driving to do. I am looking to joint the San Diego Jag club to meet some like minded Jag fans. I can't wait for the 9 month summer to start here in Cali. Mine is also in Carpathian Grey, fantastic color and somewhat of a police fly under the radar colour.

In terms of value the F-Type is the best value on the used car market. The key to buying cars on the used market is to avoid massive depreciation, is to buy them when the 8-10+ year old when they already depreciated 70-85%. There isn't that much difference in the 14 model vs 24 model F-Type other than upgraded lights, infotainment, digital dash, lane assist, etc. You can get a low mileage 40k miles 14-16 F-Type S in the mid 20s with all the options. Once these cars get around high teens to early 20 range price wise that would be an even better buy and you don't have to worry about the depreciation. Again the key is to buy on the used market when they depreciated massively above 70% preferably 85% if you can wait a while then you can enjoy and can even sell in some instances and break even or make a lil profit.

@ftypedreams After reading some horror stories about the pre 2016 models and the bonnet vents putting water on the block and rusting the injectors in, I would start 2016+.

Simple fix and prevention.



You can get these bonnet vents and prevent water from coming in and in addition you can

NIce. I learnt something.

2016+ have the injector binding problems too, although maybe not as bad - multiple things can cause it. No guarantees with these cars plus when talking about value the most valuable is my 2015 R RWD. It is going to start appreciating any day now.....


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What are injector binding problems? Have not heard of that?
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JLR V8/V6 has notorious issues with removing the injectors. They bind to the holes and folks break them off in the head trying to remove them. Definitely related to water ingestion through early F-Type hood vents but there have been cases for later years as well (could be other sources of moisture causing corrosion/binding, environmental, hosing off motor, coolant/steam in the engine bay from coolant hose/pipe failure, etc.) Usually with patience and a larger slide hammer they will come out but a potential nightmare of they break!

Early cars didn't have any different hood vents. The vents were exactly the same from launch up until the 2nd facelift in 2020 when all F-Types got a completely new hood with the vents much further ahead. The cars where water could run onto the engine block and potentially to the injectors were all RWD ones before the 2nd facelift, so all RWD cars with the original design headlights. AWD cars always had their vents in a safer position further ahead and those vents are often mistaken for a newer design. The worst vents are the completely open base vents that came with RWD cars with chrome trim. Black pack RWD cars got the better shrouded vents which let in much less water.

But as said, the injector binding issue is probably not only due to water entering through the hood vents. Other factors like not garaging the car most probably also contribute to the issue.

So it has nothing to do with pre 2016 cars but it's all pre 2020 RWD V6/V8 cars + especially those with the open vents + especially those with clueless and/or sloppy previous owners.

Ah didn't know that nuance - so the vents likely weren't moved based on "lessons learned" from water ingress, but likely because the motor sits in a slightly different position for AWD cars. Thanks for the clarification!

Our base car has been body-shamed, I think!

They're clearly the worst when it comes to letting water in but on the other hand they might be the best looking ones. Pretty weird actually that they fitted different (both black) vents to the cars with the base chrome trim and the cars with the optional black pack.

Thanks and yes the injectors are anywhere from easy to impossible to get out.
One thing posted which I am not sure of? If the car is driven hard the injectors will be easier to get out along with removing them while the engine is still warm.

Now somehow I got off way too easy as all 8 of my injectors came out by hand (No slide hammer needed!) when I pulled up on the fuel rail!
I could not believe how easy it was as I expected a BIG fight. 2014 XJR with a lower pulley and tune. Larger IC and upgraded IC pump. 60K miles.




I use compressed air before removing anything after the rubber pads are removed to blow the spark plug/injector wells out as they do collect grit and grime. When I replace injectors I use a brass wire brush and run that up and down the injector bores before re-installing the injectors. When I do this I have the plugs removed and put compressed air into the spark plug holes so anything the brass brushes dislodge is blown out of the cylinder instead of it falling into the cylinder and then trying to remove it later.

Since I have a modified car and I do race plus enjoy the power and feeling of a nice "pull" now and again! I guess that qualifies as driven hard?
I have been following the hood vent and water issue but I have never had any problems with the open hood vents. So maybe lucky?
Lots of rain where I am but the car is garaged.
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