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Old Feb 5, 2025 | 01:40 PM
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I love my F Type still and wavered the depreciation when I bought it and I bought mine used with 11k on the clock. I knew it was doubtful they would hold value and sadly-they don't. Sad to see my 2016 R model in mint condition and 28,000 miles would probably bring mid to upper $30's. Zero desire to sell and especially at that price. I am looking for another car at the moment to be more of a daily driver or to share daily drives with my F Type and it is crazy to see the Porsche's, Vettes and even the BMW Supra holding value while the Jag continually plummets. More reason I simply will not sell the car.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2025 | 05:36 PM
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Given that I bought new it’s a good thing I care little about resale ;-0 I went into the purchase eyes wide open knowing that the F-Type was not a depreciation star. I have the impression prices don’t drop as much in Canada. This is the case generally for most more expensive sports cars up here relative to the US and some other markets from what I gather?

Again, not that I care all that much, but it is interesting see a lot of comments out there suggesting that Jaguar’s current demise will likely contribute to a rise in prices of “real Jaguars”. I guess we’ll see. Even if that’s not true I can’t imagine they won’t go up just because V8s will soon be a thing of the past, remain desirable to some, etc…The design is timeless too I think…

For me, I would find too much of an emphasis on resale to detract from my enjoyment of the car. That said, I do know that more people than not seem to obsess over depreciation. I’m the outlier I think.
 

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Old Feb 5, 2025 | 05:53 PM
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Someone will figure out these are really amazing cars - and then we'll not be able to afford parts - think 964. It requires the company to be part of a branding machine like Porsche. Jaguar......the recent advertisements were not help here.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 09:17 AM
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"Weekend" cars usually depreciate rapidly from new.

Both our F-Type and our previous mid-engine exotic cost us less than 40% of MSRP at five years old.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 09:39 AM
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F-type valuation might not rise significantly in less than 10 years in my opinion but that will depend on what happens with the EV mandates in the next 5. My 2018 model year went up 7% compared to what it was valued at 14 months ago in the UK and I'm happy with that. And I think 2017/2018 were the best years for the F-type in terms of tech and design.
 

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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WSHudds
F-type valuation might not rise significantly in less than 10 years in my opinion but that will depend on what happens with the EV mandates in the next 5. My 2018 model year went up 7% compared to what it was valued at 14 months ago in the UK and I'm happy with that. And I think 2017/2018 were the best years for the F-type in terms of tech and design.
Yeah, with the rise of Trump, clearly anything environment will definitely not be on the front burner. That really threw a cog in the EV movement’s wheel.

Design is debatable I guess depending on one’s love of the face lifted car, but tech? Bit confused about that comment given that the newer car clearly has better tech.
 

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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 02:39 PM
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Tech is always a risk too.
 

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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 03:34 PM
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Imagine [if by some minor miracle], the woman of your dreams suddenly appeared in your life. If you think you've taken a hit on F type depreciation, just think about how this woman might take you to the cleaners!

There is always a steep price to be paid for lusting after beauty.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
Yeah, with the rise of Trump, clearly anything environment will definitely not be on the front burner. That really threw a cog in the EV movement’s wheel.

Design is debatable I guess depending on one’s love of the face lifted car, but tech? Bit confused about that comment given that the newer car clearly has better tech.
As in compromise. I like my cars analogue so I prefer the 8" screen with physical buttons. And 2018 was the last year in the UK the F-type was made without the joy killer GPF.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WSHudds
As in compromise. I like my cars analogue so I prefer the 8" screen with physical buttons. And 2018 was the last year in the UK the F-type was made without the joy killer GPF.
Ah, okay, gotcha. Yeah, even the newest F-types aren’t that bad overall in that way compared to some of these new cars with 80 inch wrap around displays and 0 buttons ;-0
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 04:24 PM
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I really think the physical buttons on the dash and around the stick shifter in my case are of very good quality and satisfying to use. Others might disagree but for me, but I have zero patience with BMW, Audi, etc with their ipad inspired cabins.

I think Jaguar nailed it with the materials used in the later models.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 04:29 PM
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Would 2024s in the US and Canada have the joy killer GPF? Pretty happy regardless with my 2024, particularly with the Claws Out Mode documented in the forum here that pulls and replaces fuse 15 with the hit of a garage door opener button.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 04:38 PM
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Just to chime in with WSHudds, tech wise the F-Type actually pretty much peaked with the MY18 facelift when a lot of stuff was introduced and not much changed later. A year later or so they introduced the 10" screen where the only new feature was CarPlay/AA (which anyway easily could be added to the 8" screen version) and after that not much was ever added tech wise... if I recall correctly the only tech additions with the 2nd facelift were the digital dash and an optional more advanced matrix version of the LED headlights for what that's worth. I think they also removed the symposer around MY22 or so which more was a matter of removing unnecessary tech.
 

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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MajorTom
Just to chime in with WSHudds, tech wise the F-Type actually pretty much peaked with the MY18 facelift when a lot of stuff was introduced and not much changed later. A year later or so they introduced the 10" screen where the only new feature was CarPlay/AA (which anyway easily could be added to the 8" screen version) and after that not much was ever added tech wise... if I recall correctly the only tech additions with the 2nd facelift were the digital dash and a more advanced matrix version of the LED headlights. I think they also removed the symposer around MY22 or so which more was a matter of removing unnecessary tech.
I actually quite like the newer digital dash myself, despite generally being adverse to “over teching” cars. It is quite nice with good function.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 04:42 PM
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Can't say for sure but Jaguar fitted it as standard from 2019 for UK/European models so I'd be surprised if it didn't for your region. Fuse 15 is a hidden gem for sure from Jag engineers but it doesn't compensate for the GPF so a post-2019 will be more considerably more muffled than previous model years.

I followed a 2019 V6 the other day for a few miles and I couldn't hear anything, not even a pop. It was sad, really. But I looked it up and it had only 11K miles so possibly a garage queen and driven by a very understated owner who may not like it noisy preferring to leave it in standard mode all the time.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
Would 2024s in the US and Canada have the joy killer GPF? Pretty happy regardless with my 2024, particularly with the Claws Out Mode documented in the forum here that pulls and replaces fuse 15 with the hit of a garage door opener button.
Yes, all models worldwide had the GPF installed starting with MY22 regardless of whether or not it was required in market, to streamline the production line. These cars are definitely more muffled than the '18-'21 models, which in turn are more muffled than the '13-'17 ones.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder Dump
Yes, all models worldwide had the GPF installed starting with MY22 regardless of whether or not it was required in market, to streamline the production line. These cars are definitely more muffled than the '18-'21 models, which in turn are more muffled than the '13-'17 ones.
So presumedly we could remove it from our North American cars while still remaining compliant to laws I guess?

Not sure much of a job that would be.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 09:13 PM
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Hello all,

I have owned Jaguar cars for over 55 years and enjoyed many models from E-types, Mark IX, 3.8 s's, XJ6C, XJ6 VDP.
My current garage is a 2000 XK8 Coupe (red with 55,000 miles), 2001 XK8 Convert (Roman Bronze with 109,000 mile) and a 2005 X-Type Estate Wagon (BRG with 112,000 miles). The Coupe and Estate Wagon have been owned by me for over 10 years and dealer maintained. The Convert is a recent purchase and just now getting into the details.
Intention is to keep one car, and sell two.
I'm retiring at age 77 and would like to end up with one Jaguar.
Recent research leaves me disappointed with the apparent market values. Criticism that I hear is So. CA is too far, don't like the aftermarket chrome wheels on the Coupe, and high mileage. Some feel that I should address every possible issue, exisitng or not, on my dime. None of these reasons have kept me from buying used Jaguars in the right color and body style over the years. I have not been disappointed with the right color and right condition, but my attention to my cars and work expended have good results and lots of nice driving.
Thinking would be better to just keep them and let the estate bar handle disposition.
What say you?



 
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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
So presumedly we could remove it from our North American cars while still remaining compliant to laws I guess?

Not sure much of a job that would be.
In theory, yes. However, the GPF is an integral part of the cats and I've been told the only way to remove them would be to destroy the cats. It would be faster (but not cheap) to buy some used OEM cats from a North American MY21 or earlier donor car. I don't know if JLR even makes or sources the OEM cats without the GPF anymore, so someone with an earlier car needing to replace a failed cat with a new OEM part may inadvertently wind up with a GPF installed as well.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 10:30 AM
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The future value of these cars is truly uncertain, but it has a lot going for it (as well as a lot going against it). It features a unique blend of class, comfort, aesthetics, and intensity that we're all drawn to, all the while lacking many of the hallmark design choices that have helped other cars appreciate (especially because Jaguar didn't offer the V8 with a manual).

Here are some other sports cars that are probably past the bottom of their depreciation curves and how they compare.
- S2000/NSX/Elise/Exige: Dynamically sportier and lighter, while completely disadvantaged in power, class and comfort
- E92 M3: This is a much closer F-Type comp, but BMW chose to pair its V8 with a manual, giving it the early edge
- GT350/R: Again, its V8 is paired with a manual
- 911/Cayman/Boxster (4.0L): These cars offer a unique layout experience (mid / rear engine) and superior driving dynamics, while offering less comfort than the Jag
- 850CSi: You can have a V12 with a manual in this rare combination, but it's a boat compared to the F-Type
- Viper: It's the F-Type's slow-witted American cousin, but with a brutish V10/Manual
- DBS: It's the F-Type's porky big brother, but with a V12/Manual
- R8 V10: Wherever this car is on the depreciation curve at any given moment probably signals the F-Type's appreciation ceiling (I think it outdoes the F-Type in every category)
 
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