I do like the early V8s, but it might be a bit more than we need in terms of noise/theatre, plus they are still quite pricey in Australia (and not that common).

 

Good point. By the way, what's a 6MT?

 

Six speed manual transmission.
Only available on a limited range of F-Types, V6 only and MY 2016 - 2019 only.
Lots of problems with the clutch and now up to version four.

Edit - forgot to add - RWD only so not available with AWD.

 

The V6 with 6MT is lighter than the V8 auto by, if memory serves and manufacturer specs can be trusted, about 330 pounds. My recollection is that V6->V8 is 145lbs. and 6MT->auto is 175lbs. I don't remember how much AWD adds but it also raises the center of gravity because the engine has to be mounted higher. Half an inch?

My Gen1 clutch was replaced with Gen3, as I recall. It's holding up, although I try to be nice to it. I work the engine, but try to shift gently most of the time. Third gear is a hoot, and covers an impressive range of road speed.

One other thing between base and V6S is the final drive ratio. The V6S is a bit taller so has longer legs, but a tuned base model might pull harder if sufficient traction is available. I haven't got any real data on that, so perhaps someone who does will chime in.

 

I love MTs but the ZF8 is a different even better kind of fun and surprisingly, just as manual. It holds any gear you choose to redline. Aside from 14% more efficiency than normal and passing through more a lot more WHP, 8 gears makes it easy to find the perfect power band for street racing. It's worth a good chunk of WHP. We have the ZF8HP70 version good to 700 WHP which is great news for V8 tuners. It's rare to get so much head room in a car.

I would go ZF8 for power, reliability, and fun. It's the best transmission ever, pretty much unanimously. BMW has dumped all their DCTs for it.

 

Jag says the 6MT saves 22 pounds. AWD adds around 200 pounds to the listed specs, so while a V6 is always about 145 lbs lighter than a same year V8, the early V8's are basically the same weight as later V6's. I would definitely drive a RWD 14-15 V8 before you buy a V6.

 

A matter of personal preference. The Gen 4 clutch is rock solid. Despite the AT's ability to outperform the MT, the fun factor of double clutching and being able to blip the engine at-will, in my opinion, makes for a much more engaging ride. Tuned to 450hp, the V6 is plenty capable of getting you in over your head. The V8 certainly makes sense if you are looking for blistering acceleration on the freeway, but does not live up to the potential fun of an MT through the twisties.

 

This does not jibe with my recollection but I don't have time at the moment to find 2016 specs. That was when I researched the comparative weights.

 

Does "6MT->auto is 175lbs" includes weight savings of you not being caught dead driving an automatic? :P

 

For MY16 the difference was 35lbs.

 

2016 Jaguar F-type Manual and AWD

For the privilege of working the clutch pedal, buyers can expect a discount of about $1500 and a savings of 22 pounds compared with the eight-speed automatic.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-drive-review/

 

I stand corrected. I was confusing that with the difference between the base and the S (37lbs).

 

I'll stand over in the corrected line with you. I got out my owner's manual and published weights show:

MT->AT: +22lbs
Base->S: +37lbs
RWD->AWD: +177lbs
V6->V8: +112lbs (or 123, depending on which configuration is compared)
Coupe->Conv: +44 (or 33, depending on which configuration is compared)

This still doesn't line up with my failing memory, so I suspect I was looking at online specs while waiting to place my order. That was before the first 6MT production models were delivered.

 

Here’s a fun (for me) fact: on a dry weight basis (used for published weights) my car now weighs 3352 lbs (1524 kg). That’s 8 lbs lighter than the 2.0.

 

So from a pure performance and handling point of view, why would Jag add 214 lbs to create a V6 S AWD when they can add 112 lbs to create the outrageous V8 R?

 

Is that a serious question or are you deliberately comparing apples to oranges?

 

The two are farther apart than apples and oranges. That's the crux of it.

 

I'll interpret that as answers to my questions of no and yes, respectively.

 

It seems like a valid question to me. +214lbs for +12% HP and AWD, or, +112lbs for +62% HP. Ironically only the V8 would really benefit from AWD. Maybe the V8 wouldn't even launch harder with AWD if a lighter RWD V8 had Cup2s. AWD is only 0.2 faster than the RWD on PZeros, and RWD is generally the preferred set-up.

 

The only change in sound is a little more supercharger whine, for some reason. I have the full mute exhaust - it can't open up (I'm enough of a hooligan now...). The exhaust sound takes on a slightly different character - more attitude than sound - above 6k - it seems to enjoy it's work more and is eager to get to the redline.