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Obviously a long-lost Mark 2 finally seeing the light of day ! At the miles stated, (90k), a full restoration will be needed, so anybody bidding needs to bear that in mind.
Interesting car but something isn't right with it, the chassis number suggests its an early one (1960 as the advert says) but the thin bumpers, body for this, the interior and steering wheel suggest its a much later 1967 onwards car.
It would need some looking at to verify what it actually is, if its a genuine 1960 car the chassis number should be stapped into the bonnet landing panel in front of the radiator.
It is a 67 or later car but what is interesting is it is listed as a 3.8L. If that is correct it is a very rare car as there were only 340s and 240s with a hand full of 3.8L cars built which are often referred to as 380s although badged as 340 it seems.
It is a 67 or later car but what is interesting is it is listed as a 3.8L. If that is correct it is a very rare car as there were only 340s and 240s with a hand full of 3.8L cars built which are often referred to as 380s although badged as 340 it seems.
I don't think the chassis number is right for the car because its a very early number not far after production started and also as mentioned in my post above the dash has the choke control for a 2.4L and it is RHD which would be odd in USA and a car with a chassis number starting 21 would have been LHD originally.
Personally I think someone has imported a RHD 240 into the USA and altered the title, either to make it more valuable or because at the time it had to be over a certain age to import it.
If that car is what it looks like it is a post '67 3.8 ~ 340 and a very rare car ~ one of 9 cars built. It could, of course, be a very convincing copy. Worth investigating.
Narrow bumpers. Correct hubcaps ~ badging in the correct position on the bootlid. Rear bodywork correct.
Wire Wheeled car. Unclear if this was a 3.8. ~ colour is period.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jul 2, 2022 at 06:26 PM.
If that car is what it looks like it is a post '67 3.8 ~ 340 and a very rare car ~ one of 9 cars built. It could, of course, be a very convincing copy. Worth investigating.
Narrow bumpers. Correct hubcaps ~ badging in the correct position on the bootlid. Rear bodywork correct.
Wire Wheeled car. Unclear if this was a 3.8.
Only thing is it doesn't look at all like a 3.8 or a 340 as it has the 2.4 litre manual choke control on the dashboard. There is something wrong about it and my guess as above is its a post 1967 240 with a 1960 3.8 chassis number.
Yes ~ I know it has the choke lever on the dash but the 340 ~ 3.8's could well have been fitted with the jet pull downs on the SU's instead of the AED a la E type. They were specials & it's a dead simple mod if you have a Bowden Cable & a dash slider,
All you need to fit to the SU's to pull down the jet against the Diaphragm are 2 of these which many do,
The 240's had SU Carbs & the straight port head. The Solexes were deleted. It is not a 240 but has some oddities. Lot's of run out cars had oddities. Some even had black upholstered dash tops like the Daimler V8 had earlier.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jul 2, 2022 at 06:52 PM.
What is clear is that whoever is running the auction doesn't know (or doesn't much care) about what they are selling. The photos aren't helpful and anyone interested should inspect the car in the metal before spending more than a couple of thousand dollars.
Yes ~ I know it has the choke lever on the dash but the 340 ~ 3.8's could well have been fitted with the jet pull downs on the SU's instead of the AED a la E type. They were specials & it's a dead simple mod if you have a Bowden Cable & a dash slider,
All you need to fit to the SU's to pull down the jet against the Diaphragm are 2 of these which many do,
The 240's had SU Carbs & the straight port head. The Solexes were deleted. It is not a 240 but has some oddities. Lot's of run out cars had oddities. Some even had black upholstered dash tops like the Daimler V8 had earlier.
So its either a 240 as it appears to be with all the visible features of one or its a unicorn 340 3.8 with the only link to a 3.8 being the 1960 identity it seems to come with, I know which one my money is on.
Just to mention as well it also has the 2.4 120MPH speedo and revcounter........
Last edited by Homersimpson; Jul 3, 2022 at 03:44 AM.
It's not a 240. 240's had SU carbs & the straight port head ~ Nochoke slider. ~ I think it's a bitsa which would have required a lot of work on the tail. It might also be a Mk2 2.4 but then why not leave the ARMCO bumpers instead of all that rear body work.
The Mk2's were badged like this.
240's, 340's & 340 3.8's were badged like this.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jul 3, 2022 at 08:11 AM.
Also MK2's, were not all badged as above, the 2.4 litre variant didn't have the Jaguar badge and as far as i'm aware there is no such thing as a 2.4 badge, they just had the MK2 badge in the same place as the large engine cars, the MK2 badge was then replaced by the 240 and 340 badges on the later cars. Of course the badges are easily retrofitted so could be added by dealers and owners at any point.
It doesn't appear to be a bitza, all the details point at it being a 240, it just has the wrong chassis number. It could of course just be an error on the part of the auction house who confused it with another car on their books.
Anyway we are way off topic and i'm once again reminded why I don't post on this site as often as I used to.
Thanks to all for making this a very interesting post!!!!
Kiko is a Canton, Ohio auction house about a mile from me. This is a liquidation of someone living in Canton that has passed and that had these cars in NM (I think).
Tuesday, I can check with the owner of Wade's Foreign Auto Parts. Jim may know some of the back story.
From a novice point of view, it looks like an unmolested dream. Ohio only requires a verification of serial number title to car by someone in a car dealership. I use to do the inspections in a dealership ~1974. Think I got one minute and 37 seconds of training.
Sadly no one told Jaguar that the 240 didn't have a choke slider as they fitted them to every one...
Some sensible chap has fitted the choke kit with slider that I show above. (slider & SU Part)
Cars fitted with SU carbs did not have a slider. We have many in South Africa although the 240 was not popular in this power hungry country. They are fitted with SU Thermo's. (for 240 & 340)
The slider died with the fitment of SU Carbs (& straight port head) & the deletion of Solex carbs. We have many such CKD cars here in SA.
It is more than possible that no 2.4 badge existed other than the grill badge. I've never seen one. Not even a Taiwanese knock off. Agree Mk2 badge was just replaced with 240 & 340.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jul 3, 2022 at 04:40 PM.
Some sensible chap has fitted the choke kit with slider that I show above. (slider & SU Part)
Cars fitted with SU carbs did not have a slider. We have many in South Africa although the 240 was not popular in this power hungry country. They are fitted with SU Thermo's. (for 240 & 340)
The slider died with the fitment of SU Carbs (& straight port head) & the deletion of Solex carbs. We have many such CKD cars here in SA.
It is more than possible that no 2.4 badge existed other than the grill badge. I've never seen one. Not even a Taiwanese knock off
I'm afraid you are incorrect, the 240's did have the manual choke, here are a few examples.
All four of these have the manual choke (although the last one has the lever missing but the slot is there in the dash. Either thats an incredible coincidence and all four have been converted or your wrong...
Or SA CKD cars were different which is sounding likely ~ not wrong. We did have many differences due to our local content program which was by weight at the time. Clever Lyons talked our government into Jaguar sending stress relieved aged blank Blocks & Heads to SA (within the weight target). They were machined here on the latest state of the art equipment for the time & engines assembled here. (equipment provided at Taxpayer expense). All Batteries, Upholstery, Radiators (by Silverton) etc. etc. were local ~ long list. Many items were more durable as they suited our conditions better. Our engines were fabulous ~ Better than anything built on the antiquated gear at Browns Lane ~ some ex the Daimler purchase. Amongst other models we built 2050 Mk2's & derivatives like 240 & 340 here. 850 S Types of which mine is no 4. 850 420's. We don't have accurate numbers for XJ6's.
BTW ~ I have restored my car to British standards as the materials used here are no longer available. e.g. roof lining. Whereas lambswool Union Cloth is readily available in the UK etc,
South African cars were also provided with a decent crusty hydraulic jack instead of Jaguar's flimsy arrangements. It came with a black leather cover.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jul 3, 2022 at 07:31 PM.
Bidding has begun. Rough crowd. $55 bid yesterday, $60 so far today.
The administrator of the estate and a person from the auction company could not get the hood open to get more pictures.
1960 MK2 at auction July 8, ending July 13, 2022
~ I think it's a bitsa which would have required a lot of work on the tail. It might also be a Mk2 2.4 but then why not leave the ARMCO bumpers instead of all that rear body work.
