Hello, part of the wall behind the battery on right hand side is needed. Can anybody help me with this part of the body?
In advance thank you
regards
Jagmk2964

 

This is a common area for corrosion and I had the same problem with my S Type. I am not aware that there is a repair panel available for this area as it is part of the bulkhead and express steel if they made this part anymore would possibly only supply the whole bulkhead rather than a repair patch.
What I did with my car was I found someone who was breaking a Jaguar 420 which has the same bulkhead panel as the S type and asked them to cut out the section I required. I then welded the repair panel into place as a relatively easy repair. Due to the shape of the depressed cross in this panel it would be quite difficult to make it yourself.


This is the hole I had in the bulkhead behind the battery when the car came back from the blasters.


I marked out the area to be cut using the repair panel I had had cut from the 420.


This is the repair panel offered up to the hole I had cut.


The repair panel welded into place . (Excuse the quality of welding as I was just leaning on this section).


Finished section welded in, welds all ground back and then painted with undercoat before final coats.

 

The rusty hole in my is more to the left upper part of the corrugated area. So if you have any of the remaining area left, I am interested. :-)
regards and thanks for kind advices.

 

I used a number of JB Weld applications, with some support behind while it set up.
Lots of sanding, but it looked good afterwards.

It has to be very clean and the first application has to be really worked into the metal.

 

Hi Jeff, thanks a lot. It is one of the solutions I am considering. The best would be if i found a replacement part from a donor...

 

Great job Rob.

All ~ just remember there is supposed to be a 5” X 11” pad behind the battery. Jag made it out of Hardura felt which soaked up battery acid beautifully & encouraged corrosion.

My upholstery man made up 5" X 11" closed cell pad (even piped LOL) for this application that fits above the battery tray & it's drain tube. Modern batteries seldom leak acid but at least the scuttle face is now completely protected. Also recommend you fit thin rubber strips to the 2 body supports under the battery tray so that vibration over time does not scuff all the paint off of the top of those tray supports. (Supports shown clearly in Rob's last pic.)

 

fortunately that wall area is not damaged at all in my S type, but someone cut and inserted a sheet of thin fiberglass between the battery and wall which was there when I bought the car. I have not removed it. Also I always thought the battery must have rested on a tray of some sort but I have yet to see an original one in any S type or MK-2. My car has a yellowed plastic tray where the battery sits, but I don't think it is the original part.

 

Aha, this explains a lot why this particular area is rusted. Thanks

 

In my Jag there is a stainless steel tray with drain hose.

 

Barratts sell reproductions of the battery tray & lid. Lid no longer has clips as Lucas no longer produce suitable batteries for them. We attach with Velcro.

Factory correct tray & lid.

 

BTW ~ there is an old factory bulletin. Jaguar lengthened the drain pipe to 27" long. It used to drip acid on the brake pipe to the back of the car which corroded through & led to brake failure with single circuit brakes.

 

The photo shows the horrible felt material that Glynn mentioned. In front of it, you might recognise the remnant of the original battery tray. I thought that the section where the drain hole was had long disappeared, but it's just visible in the far right corner.

 

I had the whole cross section sent to me and as you can see I only used a small piece to do my repair. Problem is it was 2013 that I did it. I tend not to throw bits away so I will have a look in my boxes but don't hold your breath. If I find it I will PM you.

 

the existing battery tray in my car looks a lot more substantial than the SNG Barratt repro. Not original but heavy duty. Has no hose, just a drain spout. But my battery doesn't leak anything, must have been a remedy for 1960's batteries?. In my car, there are no acid traces or damage visible. Still has the factory paint.

that backing material looks like Yute insulation? Jaguar used Yute until the 1992 XJ-12 under the carpets to make carpeting thicker, plusher, and insulate against body resonance.

today's batteries don't leak acid.

 

Jose the Interstate battery works well with the org. cover--bad pics here but you can see.

 

Coventry Foundation the pictures look very good.
Isn't it better to ventilate any gases produced by the battery?
I've never had covers over my batteries.

 

I don't remember batteries leaking, but I do recall having to top them up with distilled water. The location of the battery made that quite awkward. Installing a battery without tipping it to 45 degrees wasn't easy either.

 

Jose it would seem that Jaguar did not think the battery venting onto the bonnet was desirable. We have seen some severely discolored bonnets in that area and the rust thru in that area may be another reason. One could surmise the cover acts as a sort of a distillation surface so that cooled down vapors work their way to the lower tray where the drip tube resides. There is no literature we have seen supporting that theory but as in all things Jaguar if there was/ were pounds to be saved there would not be a part. (Pounds as in money)

 

yes I suppose acid gases are not healthy for metal or lungs.

yes I remember in the 1970's batteries needed to be topped off with distilled water.

then batteries started to be sealed.

 

Another reason for the vent in the tray and the rust behind the battery is due to the way the bonnet opens. If it has been raining and you lift the bonnet all the water slides off the bonnet straight down the back of the engine and the bulkhead. The pad that sits behind the battery would get very wet and combine that with a bit of acid that has lifted the paint and you get rust. The vent is to let the rain water escape down the vent from the bottom of the tray that the battery sits in.