Researched the topic on the forum and found alot of useful information. Thanks. For those who don't already know what a pain in the rear getting another key with remote is, this thread was very helpful: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...-s-type-50371/

But I am left with a few questions:
1.) My remote (I only have one which is why this subject is relevant) has an FCC ID of CWT WB 1U243. Does the new (or used) remote that I pick up need to have that same FCC ID code?
2.) Are there three parts? I understand that the dealer will need to program the remote and the transponder, but it sounds like the dealer cannot cut the key, though they can order a cut key. It appears that a few locksmiths in larger metropolitan areas can cut that style key. Further, that the blank key stock may be available on eBay (I say "may" because of questions regarding the tip of the key being wrong), but if I do find blank key stock that will work and a locksmith who can cut the key, how do I get it attatched to the transponder? In other words, are we really talking about three parts, the remote, the key, and the transponder that holds the key? I don't want to take mine apart since it is the only one I have and I don't want to jack with it for fear it stops working.

Thank You again,
Joe

 

Most dealers can in fact cut keys from blanks. I would call and ask. I know the local dealers in the Northeast here can.

The key is physically two parts, but there are 3 things that need to happen.

The first thing that has to happen is the key needs to be physically cut to match the locks.

The Second thing that has to happen with the Jaguar IDS system is that ALL keys that will start the car will need to have their transponders programmed to the car at the same time. If you're paying for this order a "valet" key as well, basically its a regular metal key, but without the remote. The key is cheap, but the programming is the expensive part. Keep it in a safe place just in case u know.

Also bring all keys that you have because like I said if the key isn't physically present when the programming happens it will no longer work even if it did before the car is reprogrammed.

Third is the remote keyless entry that has to be synced to the driver's door module. Once again this has to be done at the dealer, and all keys have to be there. There is a limit of 5 active keys at any given point in time. AS far as I know pretty much any flip key will work on 2003-2009 cars as far as the remote. You can order the pieces separately, i.e. used remotes and new flip key blades etc. It all just snaps together.

I have a few used remotes if u need one cheap.

Interestingly enough, a tidbit you might not know, any of those Jag flip blade keys will lock any Jaguar that uses that style key, regardless if the key is for the car or not. Ask me how I found that one out

Take care,

George

 

Thanks for the reply George, you have been a great source of knowledge in this (and many other) areas.

So in your experience the FCC ID number did not matter. And, the metal key is an integral part of the transponder half of the entire fob. That means, even if one is lucky enough to find a locksmith with the key stock, you can't do business with them because they are not going to have transponder.

I'll keep you in mind for the used remote once I digest the information about the key. I just don't understand what good a locksmith would be since they won't have blank stock with a transponder, and further even if you buy the whole remote with a blank key which the locksmith can cut, you still have to have the dealer program the transponder and remote.

Isn't the key portion w/transponder from the dealer only $80 including cut? Programming is extra.

 

OK the transponder isn't really a separate piece. It's built into the metal flip portion of the key, or the valet key. So if a locksmith HAS the blank key, it will have a transponder in it. You can't get the transponder out without destroying a key, it looks like a little cylinder about 3/16" tall and about 1/8" in diameter. (I cannibalized a key for someone to enable remote start).

BUT the programming is different. Some locksmiths actually have all the equipment to cut, and program - remember you can get Jaguar IDS on ebay if you know where to look. But the Jags are so low volume it really isnt worth it.

Basically your best bet is a blank uncut ebay key, complete with remote, uncut, which would be cut and programmed by the dealer.

I have a hookup at a Jag dealer, and the tech cut and programmed my key for $40. Some dealers will do it for free as a courtesy, or as part of another repair. Here's the thing... Off the record of course. They can't tell how many keys are currently programmed, once they get into key programming in IDS, they have no choice BUT to redo all the keys. SO if you happened to get a key cut somewhere else, and tell a service advisor oh btw, my wife's key stopped working I don't get it, you just might get lucky

Take care,

George

 

Folks, programming Jaguar flip keys is 1000x simpler that people are making out on here & it certianly does not need a dealer to do it.

If you can flash your own headlamps, you can program a key!!! or 3 or 10 keys for that matter.

I did 2 keys tonight on my 2004 x350 3.5v8. One withough ablade fitted yet!

Process is this:

1/ hold main beam stalk back to acheive main beam lights before ignotion is turned on
2/ insert a key that fits, even if the remote is not yet programmed
3/ turn the ignotion key to the first or second poistion (I forget which worked, position 1 I think, so the radio plays if required)
4/ release & pull the headlamp stalk again 5 times, ie flash the lights 5 times. you will hear a tiny blimp
5/ push any button on the remote. Job done. Also press any button on any second remove or 3rd remote or 4th remote you want to program, as many as you like, but shortly after the blimp is heard.
6/ turn the ignition off. Blimp is heard.
7/ Done.

No dealer, key cutter, softwarre or specialist required. Its easier than putting fuel in the car.

If you can't do this, you should not have a key in your possession!

As to the comment that any jaguar flip locks any jaguar car, w ell, its a CHubb issue, not Jaguar. Any ford, jaguar, aston martin or other car for that matter that uses the chubb style can lock any other car, but not open it. When the XJ220 was build inthe 90's, the locks were put in back to front (drivers on passenger side etc) & in fact every xj220 key fitted any other for a period of time before it was discovered & corrected. I worked at the factory so I remember the discussions.


God luck,
Vampire

 

Welcome to the forum vampirev8, please post an intro in the new members section

You may well have done this with an X 350, but this is the S Type section and what you say is absolute bollocks, just won't work.

 

I didn't realise it was only an s type section of the forum. Google took me here when searching for XJ. How is it bollocks? To be specific I suppose oyu mean it is bollocks for S types. I used an old S type key from my previous 2006 S type 2.7 v6 Diesel, reprogrammed it to my X350. It might be bollocks to you, but it locks & unlocks my x350 perfectly. I dont recall saying it was the procedure for an S type though.

 

My ex S Type fob (not key) also was programmed to my XK8 with a similar procedure to what you describe for an S Type you need a dealer or someone with the software that can do the programming.
We generally like to stick to S Type info in this section you will find the X350 section here XJ ( X350 & X358 ) XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum

 

I do believe that Norri knows what he is talking about.
No offense vampirev8.

seriously.......................

 

vampire, having read and re-read your description (I have an X350 too) you are surely talking about programming the car to the remote buttons, which will unlock the doors and boot, and set/unset the alarm.. Not programming the key transponder which is necessary to start the engine.