When I purchased this car (2008 model) a couple months ago I noticed this.


The dealer said they would try to get it fixed. They took it to a shop to get it done and was told it can't be fixed.


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So, without causing a public disturbance, I left. Seems to me it should be able to be fixed.

 

That's not a bubble. The glue has failed that holds the headliner to the backing.

You got the right answer and that is to replace the entire headliner because the rest of the glue will also fail. The sagging will continue until the headliner falls down.

Don't let anyone attempt to repair it. Just a short term patch.

It is a very common thing to replace a headliner because heat kills the glue. So depending on where you live replacing a headliner might be common to very common. It's not a big repair but can be a bit expensive.

Is your car under warranty? I got my 2005 STR headliner replaced years ago when it was under factory warranty.

I currently have a few small sags again and I plan to replace the headliner this time myself. I like to upgrade the material because it is very cheap if you DIY.

How are your sun visors? I had to replace those too because of heat damage but my car was never out of the sun for about 6 years so lots of heat!
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No warranty on the headliner. Sunvisors are fine. Sure seems like nice material, though.


So I can't just remove that panel with the seat belt through it and squirt some adhesive in there?

 

Sure you can. But it won't last and be very careful that you don't get the glue to soak thru the material as it will stain.

When you look at a failed headliner the problem is the glue has disintegrated but so has the thin layer of foam bonded to the headliner material.

You will need to sand or rub the headliner backing to completely remove what's left of the thin foam before gluing the new headliner to it.

I would live with it until you are ready to replace the headliner. Maybe get a few quotes? Be sure and go to an auto upholstery shop and not a dealer or regular car repair place. In fact most towns have several outfits that specialize in headliners so you might want to look for one of those.
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Well, the dealer took it to an auto upholstery shop and they are the ones that said no. There must be more than one up here!


I'll get another estimate. It's not so bad that I can't live with it, but I don't know if I want to go that far myself, I'll probably mess it up!

 

And when they replace the liner (... ;-) also have them clean the sunroof drains!
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That is a great idea!
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I had mine replaced by an upholstery shop for about $225. Here in sunny Florida, all my cars had that same problem.

 

I will second that. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Not on my Jag, but on two other vehicles. In my experience, the foam just lightly disintegrated. Not all the way through, just the outer surface where the glue was. It looked so simple to spray some special upholstery contact cement in there and glue the fabric back in place. Looked great, started patting myself on the back. About a week later, it all started falling down again. I thought the glue had failed, but upon closer inspection, I found a thin layer of foam still securely attached to the fallen fabric. The foam itself had failed, and was basically shedding a thin layer each time.

The only fix is to completely remove the original foam layer under the fabric. (Either that, or buy a complete new headliner assembly.) New headliner fabric has a foam backer already attached. I redid the headliner myself on a pickup and a Suburban. Not too difficult, as the surfaces were fairly flat and I had good access to remove the complete headliner.

The headliner on a Jag has more complex curves. I'd recommend letting an upholstery shop do a complete recovering. You can remove and reinstall the headliner yourself and save some money, so the shop only has to do the recovering portion. Details here:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...al-how-129199/

 

>The headliner on a Jag has more complex curves. I'd recommend letting an upholstery shop do a complete recovering.

If the liner is not drooping can it be removed and then reinstalled?

I'm thinking that I need to check the sunroof drains and that seems to required removing the headliner. Can that be done, and the original liner reused, or will removing it destroy it?
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Don't know about your problem, pab, but I think I'm going to tell everybody that is a speaker. That's what I thought when I first saw it anyway.

 

it happens to many cars. The dealer knew that. However, when mine went, I just had a new one put in. $280 for everything except visors and they didn't need it. Hope that helps.

 

Mine fell completely. My friend is an interior specialist but he had only done one headliner before. It took 9 hours. We had to undo most everything (lights, handles, hat rack) , and find all the wiring harnesses. He had ordered the material and glue. It is not perfect but quite acceptable. Cost $250.

 

Sal, where in Miami did you take it ?

 

I took it to this shop:

Chair Care Upholstery - 42 Photos - Furniture Reupholstery - West Park, FL - Reviews - Yelp

Our family has been going to them since 1993...nice family owned shop. Very friendly and accommodating. They also re-upholstered some of my furniture as well. They do a great job.

 

Thanks

 

Over the past several years, I have read several sagging headliner threads. As I recall, replacing the fabric on the headliner is the easy part. Getting the headliner out of the car is the hard part. Something about removing the front or rear window? On both my STRs, the headliner is beginning to sag in in the back. Someone should make a sticky on how to repair the headliner.

 

Found it!

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...al-how-129199/