Correction - there are 97 new MT F-types on cars.com so the percentages are slightly higher, more like 12% of 6 cyl RWDs.

 

That's 11-12% of cars currently for sale are MT. But if the MT's take 3 times as long to sell as ATs (so the ATs get replenished faster on the lots), then the purchase/ownership rate would be down near the 3-4% level.


I think. My head hurts.

 

Right - that's the thing.

Although - 21.5% of all F-types have been listed more than one month, but it's just 15.5% for MTs (longest listing you can search is >1 month).

Later I'll check AutoTrader and see if it jives.

 

The V6S is a lovely car to drive with the auto, but if I had my time again and could get the right colour in a manual, I'd get the manual because I think a decent manual transmission would really suit the engine and the handling as well.

But then I think I would be slaughtered at trade-in time, I'd be surprised if a used manual would fetch 70% of the price of the used auto.

 

Interesting that the numbers are almost opposite for manual vs automatic 2016 Miatas. When I was looking at them, I asked the salesman at my local Mazda dealer who wanted an automatic Miata and his answer was a simple "Nobody".
Given the popularity of Miatas there are clearly plenty of old school drivers out there.
For myself, I like both versions of the F type S but am glad I chose manual and, I say that after enduring a traffic jam from mid Connecticut all the way to New York last week.

 

At 3% of total F-Types, that's only 128 MTs sold annually in the U.S., making it extremely rare.

 

I am confused by these numbers, as they counter-intuitively suggest that used F-type with MT are more desirable, as they move faster.

 

I read these numbers the other way. Less than 6 months supply of all F-Types are available for sale, yet more than 8 months worth of MT supply is available.

 

Sin and Unhinged get zeeeeee joke. I shall not be putting that on my car. Maybe something clever: Orgy - 25 Insanely Clever License Plates You Wish You'd Thought Of | Complex

 

Clearly, only people who drive MTs have a sense of humor.

 

Don't know how you came to this; see below.

That's my point. I checked again and 22% of automatics have been listed for a month or more, versus 17.4% for MT. If the uptake on MT is so bad, why isn't there a much higher percentage of them (compared to automatics) sitting on the lot for a long time?

Granted we don't have all the data. But on AutoTrader it's about the same picture as cars.com: 1958 new F-types, 1258 6 cyl, 919 are RWD, 101 have MT, and the MT percentages about the same. AutoTrader used to, but no longer provides info on how long a car has been listed.

The thing is, if MT demand is really 3% as this guy was quoted as saying, MT is a dead duck. But if it's in the 11% range it should live, because I have this recollection that 10-15% was Jaguar's original MT take rate expectation. Someone please correct me it I'm wrong.

 

Back in 2015, the press was thrown a 20% number:
Reviews | Top GearThat was certainly overly optimistic.

 

My first vehicle was a stick and I never looked back until I moved to the DC area. I'll confess the e-Type's clutch was tiresome on the beltline. While my toys since have all remained MT's, my daily drivers migrated to automatic. About a month ago, my local dealer was advertising all 2016's as $20k off, and I was inspired to go check their inventory. They still had a MT that was on the lot when we first went to gather information on the F-Pace back in March (which says some of them DO sit on the lot). I remembered the car because the configuration was perfect for me, so I took it out for a ride. Somewhat surprisingly, I came back underwhelmed. The 8-speed automatic is so good, it just made the MT feel more like work than fun. I guess I'm getting old!

 

I have a 2014 R8 V10 w/S-Tronic (DCT) and wouldn't trade it for the manual. I would take the manual over the older R-Tronic all day.

 

I am a zealot, even my flying car will be MT.

 

Has this been done before? The Tremec mod, I mean? Honestly, this is something I dream of at night. If I could somehow turn my R into a manual, I think I would keep it forever..literally the perfect car for me. Do you know of any shops that do this? Any idea what something like that might cost? Would be willing to shell out serious bucks for something like this...

 

...this thread reminds me of this pic someone sent me recently;






LOL

Dave

 

True story:

Carjacking attempt foiled by pesky manual transmission - Autoblog


Also, I can't imagine that I would ever part with this vehicle, but if this manual is very rare in the US, would that increase it's value in the long run for collectors, etc?


BTW, the only reason I am sort of obsessed with conversation about the MT is this simple fact:

As much as I think the F-Type is the most beautiful car in the world, I wouldn't be driving one if it was an automatic. Not even a question. I wonder what I would have ended up in?

 

I am afraid not. Also here in EU I am 99.9% sure that the F Type is far more sold with AT than MT.

On the biggest German website of new and second hand cars the following is listed for sale: (My search criteria: F Type S coupe model age 2015/2016)

-cars for sale with AT= +-250pcs
-cars for sale with MT= +-3pcs

I think that says it all. I simply think that the type of F buyer isn't into MT... MT's are a dying breed even for brands like Porsche... MUCH more sales in AT's...

So I don't think having a MT will be better for it's resale value... there simply isn't enough interest in MT's. Maybe if you sell the car in 25 years you will get a little better price compared to AT but I am not buying for collection purpose.

 

Same here. In my case it had to be a RWD coupe with a stick and my next pick was the Cadillac ATS-V, after also considering BMW 235i, M2, M4, Cayman, Mustang....