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Manual take rate as low as 3% for F-Type

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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Truly a shame. People don't even want to be driving anymore, let alone deeply integrated into the process and machine. =( It goes suggest that if Jag phases out manual (no proof of that), the '16 will definitely be a classic. =)

New cars shift away from manual transmissions - Chicago Tribune

But a Jaguar spokesperson said the "take rate" for manual transmissions for its F-Type sports car—the only stick it offers, and available only in the base model with the V-6 engine—can be as low as 3 percent.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 03:01 PM
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I'm convince the F-Type will be offering a manual tranny until (but only until) they phase out the V6. But never fear, the V8 can be modded with a Tremec.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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I would not buy a manual unless it came with a V8 RWD version.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 05:57 PM
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I would not buy a manual unless it came with a V8 RWD version.
I keep forgetting the R is only AWD here in the US anymore. The Tremec is only a solution for the RWD cars.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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There is no joy like shifting a manual F-type. Those that lack the skills will just never understand.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 03:08 AM
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I've driven manuals almost exclusively and my CTS-V is a manual, but there is one reason I would be happy with a decent auto now and that is TRAFFIC.

Portland is becoming like LA and everyone is moving here. No matter what time of day anymore, even on weekends, you are almost always guaranteed a traffic mess and a whole lot of red triangles on your Waze app.

Sitting in stop and go traffic for 20+ mins a day with a manual gets old.

I haven't changed to 'liking' an auto - my environment has ....
 

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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 04:32 AM
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My M3 was manual when I lived in LA. 2 hours on the 405 each way everyday was a killer. The occasional run through the canyons was fun, but didn't make up for the daily commute.
As for the Jag, my wife drives it more than I do so auto it is...
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 05:10 AM
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DC area is second worst traffic in the country. For me, driving a manual has become so 'automatic', I just don't notice it as an extra effort in stop'n'go traffic.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
DC area is second worst traffic in the country. For me, driving a manual has become so 'automatic', I just don't notice it as an extra effort in stop'n'go traffic.
I drove a stick for years in DC traffic and still do when it snows and I drive the Taco. If JLR offered a V8 RWD with a stick I'd very likely consider it, but I'd have to find some way to appease the boss who has once again told me "no more cars!"
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
DC area is second worst traffic in the country. For me, driving a manual has become so 'automatic', I just don't notice it as an extra effort in stop'n'go traffic.
This. I've not driven an AT (other than a rental, or wife's from time to time). It is like door locks.... I've never had power locks, so I don't even remember to lock my car sometimes.... Just like I don't know to be annoyed by an MT in traffic. Hadn't thought of that. You don't know to be aware of what you don't know.

But I love to row. What is more is that it really acts as a pops and crackle control.... Love it so much.

I am such a big fan of the manual, I am thinking of getting personalised plates that read:

MNTRNNY

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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:57 AM
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Truly a shame. People don't even want to be driving anymore, let alone deeply integrated into the process and machine. =( It goes suggest that if Jag phases out manual (no proof of that), the '16 will definitely be a classic. =)
Yes. A shame, but not unexpected.
Glad I bought mine when I did.
Sad that the trade in I hoped to do in a few years for a next-gen manual F-type looks doubtful.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fishbits
I am such a big fan of the manual, I am thinking of getting personalised plates that read:

MNTRNNY
With such plates you might get confused with LGBT person from Minnesota.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 12:58 PM
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I predicted these would be sitting on lot if dealer stocked one at all. Not a comment on whether there should be one just reality.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 01:02 PM
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If I could have bought my R with a manual I would have. However, let's can all that "people don't want to be driving anymore" nonsense. Just because we enjoy manuals doesn't make us any better than those who prefer autos.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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Seems fitting to the discussion https://www.facebook.com/TheManualGe...rvationSociey/
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 02:42 PM
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There is one model car I would ONLY have a manual in and that is an R8. That gated shifter and the metal on metal tapping as you follow the gate - heaven. I guess they stopped manuals in 2015. Their dual clutch is a tech marvel, but there is no way in hell anyone should drive an auto R8.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckingham
There is no joy like shifting a manual F-type. Those that lack the skills will just never understand.
.....and then there are those of us with the skills that want an auto anyway!;-) My DD is a 6spd manual and I've had dozens of vehicles sporting manual transmissions. Between my DD and my motorcycles, I get my fill of clutches and shifting.....on an aside, even motorcycles are starting to go automatic more and more every day; the Honda Africa Twin was just released with a DCT . For my sportscar, I wanted an auto, because I finally wanted to try a modern, up-to-date, high performing AT and I also wanted my wife to be able to drive the car. So far I'm completely satisfied with the tranny and the performance and I really enjoy the paddle shifters.

I'm not anti-manual, but I just don't want one in my F type......some other vehicles, I would. I hope for the sake of those that want a manual, that JLR continues to make a manual F type.

With autonomous cars, cars that park themselves, etc. etc. etc.....I have to think that the interest in manual transmissions will continue to decline, unfortunately.

2 cents,
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fishbits
But I love to row. What is more is that it really acts as a pops and crackle control.... Love it so much..
+1.

Originally Posted by Uncle Fishbits
I am such a big fan of the manual, I am thinking of getting personalised plates that read:

MNTRNNY
Seeing how close you are to SF, you might want to rethink that.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 04:08 PM
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Out of curiosity I did a search on cars.com.
Today in the US there are 1912 F-types listed of which 1157 are 6 cylinder. Of those, 819 are RWD, and 91 of those have MT.

Of course cars.com doesn't list everything and it doesn't include cars ordered direct by customers, and doesn't account for rate of inventory turn, but roughly suggests a "dealer take rate" of about 11%, if you only count the models that can be ordered with MT, 7.8% if you add AWD as well, and 4.8% of all F-types.

If 11% is realistic, I wonder if the 3% stat is MT percentage of all F-types, which really wouldn't be the right way to look at it, would it?
 
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