I don't think I will upgrade .just bring back to original .to make it mobile I have installed parts from a xf and a xj8(x350) .some parts are the same .some are specific to the f type.

 

It might actually be cheaper to "upgrade" with performance parts than to fix to OEM specs. This car is probably a better candidate for recreational use in modified form than for civilized daily driving. You could strip/replace some of the convenience/ luxury components and sell to build the car into a toy.

 

That's what I was thinking also. Maybe an easier sell.

 

Aluminum is unlike steel, it has different fatigue points and doesn't flex back on its own. It also develops microcracks. As such, "recreational use" probably shouldn't be on the track or you just might end up in a high-speed wreck.

The impact that snapped control arm and ripped up engine cradle could have left frame straight, but each mounting point around this impact is now a suspect and shouldn't be put through extreme loads. It happens to be a front end on a heavy front-engined car.

When fixed, this car ought to be limited to boulevard cruiser role.

 

Aluminum sure does flex back on its own; just like every other metal, aluminum will elastically deform and plastically deform. You're thinking of the lack of a fatigue limit, as is the case with aluminum. Steel has a fatigue limit; in which small to moderate stresses will never cause failure, regardless of how many times that stress is repeated. Aluminum however, will eventually fail under even the smallest of stresses if you repeat it enough... think wiggling the cap back and forth on a soda can until it breaks.



Relating to the car's uni-body, one accident (where the body elastically deformed during impact) is not going to make the structure a ticking time bomb that will fail at high loads. You'd have to repeat the forces from the accident many times to cause any real risk. Someone hitting the same pot hole on the way to work each day for 10 years would be at much higher risk than this car after an accident assuming there was no plastic deformation to the structure.

 

found engine cradle and some front frame parts so work will soon commence I hope .still having trouble finding the lower apron rail .jaguar says I need an authorized aluminum repair shop. any ideas ? this is 1 part I'd like to use as brand new

 

What's the part number? I'll see if I can find a source for you. I'll also need you to pm me your VIN.

 

I rebuilt my F-Type R. And it was a lot worse than this car is. It's perfect and no one can tell one iota (other than that pink sticker in the door jam). And I drive her hard (i.e. As intended).

 

thanks unhinged ---are you getting my pm 's to you?

 

JLR is very particular about fulfilling certain aluminum body part orders. In conjunction to the VIN, there is a form that asks for additional details (photos of existing damaged parts, insurance information, name of the JLR aluminum certified bodyshop, mileage, etc).

 

yes you are right (it's called an a code part I believe).but we will see I have a tracking # ,but won't believe it till it's in my hade .ok here is the million dollar ?.??????????? I have been fixing jags for a few years now .a xk8 and a xkr ,but mainly about 5/10 xj8/x350 (the aluminum jag .also I've worked for delta airlines for almost 30 years (almost 20 as an engine piece part repairman) what are the rivits made of and why I,ve heard they are aluminum with a burilium core.....iv'e used a lot of rivits but none like thes (made of aluminum and a hard metal inside . also the x350 used an orange glue --the f type's is blue. thanks

 

You might want to dig around youtube for the "how it's made" show on the factory follow through building an F-Type. I vaguely recall them saying Jaguar came up with a special kind of rivet for the body assembly in addition to the glue....

 

The cars are constructed using self piercing rivets SPR.

 

thanks very much for the responses but what I really wanted to know is what is the rivet made of .why not use a rivet made of a single material --ie is it for simplicity or some other purpose --some strength I'm not aware of that would differ in some way from say aircraft construction

 

I guess it's aluminium....
Henrob rivet materials Henrob

 

Watch this video link on #13....

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...d-time-172704/

 

I think the limited time has passed? (it's not accessible to me)

ps: sorry - found it in dropbox a bit further down in the thread! (#13 as clearly stated )

 

well I guess this is good and bad --both airfilter boxes are missing -----------so I guess i'll go with cold air intake ------but I'd rather not spend 1800$ on it any ideas?

 

Get the engine running before you spend anything on air intake, or anything else for that matter.

 

engine and trans seem to work fine .but I've only drove it in and out of garage. received my cradle and box o parts yesterday waiting on frame rail (fedex) .but might have to wait now .promised wife id fix a friends bmw .so I need to put it on lift 1st before I take this jag apart .aslo have 2 xf's I need to get fixed ..never ends