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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 04:14 PM
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Hi, I started my double six for the first time in a few months today, charged the battery for a few hrs via an old trickle charger after a fail start and once she popped and farted into life, no windows or sunroof.. Can anyone please help? 🙂
 
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 05:02 PM
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Clearly no electrical supply to these via the relevant switches, so you need to check the fuses and if OK, trace through with an AVO meter and with the electrical diagram in front of you.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 07:33 PM
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Hi and thanks for your reply I can't see a fuse for the windows listed. I've checked both footwells and the box on the wing under the bonnet... Can't find a fuse marked as purely for the windows and roof 😏
 
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 08:15 PM
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Is this a Series III DD6?

First thing to check is that the lock-out switch hasn't been inadvertently flipped....as that'll knock out all windows and sunroof simultaneously. The lock-out switch makes/breaks the ground circuit for the window-sunroof relay.

If the switch has been flipped then I'd suspect the relay itself. I can give some EZ tests if you have a test light or meter

Or....

Power Window Circuit Description and Diagnosis

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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 03:17 AM
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Hi Doug, yes it's an 89 series three V12. How do i find the switch and reset please?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 03:37 AM
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Check this movie out! I think this will answer your question.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Flappers
Hi Doug, yes it's an 89 series three V12. How do i find the switch and reset please?
The lock-out switch is grouped with the sunroof and window switches, directly above the sunroof switch

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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 01:44 PM
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Hi again, forgive my complete ignorance but a switch suggests to me I can "switch" it back on .. ? Do I just remove the facia and switch it back after a clean of the contacts please ?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Flappers
Hi again, forgive my complete ignorance but a switch suggests to me I can "switch" it back on .. ? Do I just remove the facia and switch it back after a clean of the contacts please ?

Yes, it's an on-off switch. Whatever position it is in now, just flip it opposite....and see if your windows come back to life. If not then you probably have a dead relay....which some testing would confirm.

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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 02:45 PM
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Cheers Doug, and these switches are to be found nr the fuse box in the left footwell, behind the trim? That video states vehicles upto 87. My car is an 89, will they still be in that spot or ?

Regards Sam.
 

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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Flappers
Cheers Doug, and these switches are to be found nr the fuse box in the left footwell, behind the trim? That video states vehicles upto 87. My car is an 89, will they still be in that spot or ?

Regards Sam.
Sam, see post #7 above

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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 02:54 PM
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And, yes, the window and lock-out switches are in the same location for all Series III cars 1979-1992

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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 03:06 PM
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Many thanks, I'll look tomorrow 🙂
 
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 05:54 PM
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It's the yellow arrowed one.
Simple rocker, on-off switch.
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 11:11 PM
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Ah, I see yes I'm aware of that switch Definitely not that. I was about to look behind it. I thought that that only isolated the rear windows... I'll go look for the relay tomorrow I'm overthinking this, apologies

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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 09:08 AM
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Apologies not necessary, Sam,
I'm just glad I had a picture for you.
One picture = thousands of words and all that.
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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 07:03 PM
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it's called a "Valet" switch, or "Master" switch.

if it becomes disconnected, it will prevent windows and sunroof from operating, two wires connect to it, if either wire is disconnected, it is the same as if the switch was in the "valet" position, i.e., OFF.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 09:11 AM
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Agree, it is worth opening the console and checking out the switch.
Just jumping the contacts may cause the operations of roof and windows to return. thusly convicting the switch. Remove it, open it and clean it or merely leave it out of the circuit, as many do.


Electrickery!!!


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Old May 4, 2018 | 07:33 AM
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Hi again can I swap the square unit with the old lucas one please?
 
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Old May 4, 2018 | 07:52 AM
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as long as the square one is the same config
 
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