Park Brake fault
#1
Park Brake fault
Hi all,
Last week I changed the battery on my XK that had not been used in a while and battery died, so it now has a brand new battery.
Car started fine but had a "Park Brake fault message". The par brake is not on and no sign on dash of it being applied.
I did try the calibration routine (pressing foot brake twice and then applying park brake)... no result
I took my DTC reader and it says U0128 Lost Communication with Parking Brake Module.
Tried to clear the fault but it came back. Disconnected battery for 5mns, reconnected and same result... :-(
The car is not with park brake engaged as and it can move (didn't drive it but just reversed a bit on the driveway)
Any suggestions of things to try?
It need to go to service/MOT anyways but what is the impact of this message? Does it mean that the Park Brake can't be applied and that's it or other implications?
Many thanks
Last week I changed the battery on my XK that had not been used in a while and battery died, so it now has a brand new battery.
Car started fine but had a "Park Brake fault message". The par brake is not on and no sign on dash of it being applied.
I did try the calibration routine (pressing foot brake twice and then applying park brake)... no result
I took my DTC reader and it says U0128 Lost Communication with Parking Brake Module.
Tried to clear the fault but it came back. Disconnected battery for 5mns, reconnected and same result... :-(
The car is not with park brake engaged as and it can move (didn't drive it but just reversed a bit on the driveway)
Any suggestions of things to try?
It need to go to service/MOT anyways but what is the impact of this message? Does it mean that the Park Brake can't be applied and that's it or other implications?
Many thanks
#2
Does the parking brake actually operate when you pull up the handle? Obviously, if it doesn't work then it will be a fail. If it does work but the message still appears, then it might simply be an advisory but that might depend upon the attitude of the tester so you could ask before it is actually tested.
Richard
Richard
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#4
Is the 'brand new battery' FULLY charged - regardless of whether it was supplied as 'charged', did you put it on a charger overnight BEFORE fitting to the vehicle?
As I started reading your post, I did think this will resolve itself as you drive the vehicle. Unfortunately any warning light is now an MoT failure so you may not have this luxury of time available .......
Graham
As I started reading your post, I did think this will resolve itself as you drive the vehicle. Unfortunately any warning light is now an MoT failure so you may not have this luxury of time available .......
Graham
#6
Is the 'brand new battery' FULLY charged - regardless of whether it was supplied as 'charged', did you put it on a charger overnight BEFORE fitting to the vehicle?
As I started reading your post, I did think this will resolve itself as you drive the vehicle. Unfortunately any warning light is now an MoT failure so you may not have this luxury of time available .......
Graham
As I started reading your post, I did think this will resolve itself as you drive the vehicle. Unfortunately any warning light is now an MoT failure so you may not have this luxury of time available .......
Graham
Edit: Just checked, it reads 14.2V
Last edited by tek_uk; 02-06-2023 at 05:10 AM.
#7
Is the 'brand new battery' FULLY charged - regardless of whether it was supplied as 'charged', did you put it on a charger overnight BEFORE fitting to the vehicle?
As I started reading your post, I did think this will resolve itself as you drive the vehicle. Unfortunately any warning light is now an MoT failure so you may not have this luxury of time available .......
Graham
As I started reading your post, I did think this will resolve itself as you drive the vehicle. Unfortunately any warning light is now an MoT failure so you may not have this luxury of time available .......
Graham
Last edited by tek_uk; 02-06-2023 at 04:42 AM.
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#8
Your 14.2 volt measurement is too high unless the car was running (but would indicate your alternator is charging the battery which is a good thing).
A lead acid battery, with the car off, should measure 12.6 volts or slightly higher when fully charged. I would follow Graham’s advice and fully charge the battery, with a substantial (10 amp or more) battery charger, just to make sure it is topped up. Check the voltage at the battery terminals with an actual volt meter if you can.
Disconnect both the + and - battery cables from the battery and touch the cables together (a hard reset). This discharges any stray voltages lingering in the car electrical system and modules.
Securely reconnect the terminals to the battery and follow the parking brake reset instructions displayed in the message area of the dash which I recall says depress and hold the brake pedal down (only once I think) and pull up on the parking brake lever in the center console. You may also have to reset the power windows after the hard reset as well.
All the above items are cheap and quick to perform to get your problem resolved. Good luck and let the forum know how you make out.
A lead acid battery, with the car off, should measure 12.6 volts or slightly higher when fully charged. I would follow Graham’s advice and fully charge the battery, with a substantial (10 amp or more) battery charger, just to make sure it is topped up. Check the voltage at the battery terminals with an actual volt meter if you can.
Disconnect both the + and - battery cables from the battery and touch the cables together (a hard reset). This discharges any stray voltages lingering in the car electrical system and modules.
Securely reconnect the terminals to the battery and follow the parking brake reset instructions displayed in the message area of the dash which I recall says depress and hold the brake pedal down (only once I think) and pull up on the parking brake lever in the center console. You may also have to reset the power windows after the hard reset as well.
All the above items are cheap and quick to perform to get your problem resolved. Good luck and let the forum know how you make out.
#9
It is DRIVEABLE with the park brake stuck OFF but not legally on UK public roads with a known brake fault.
Graham
#12
Hi all,
I thought I'd post a quick update. Car has gone to garage today.
Unfortunately they have not been able to diagnostic the problem as yet... I understand they are awaiting feedback from the diagnostic company (??? don't know if its Jag or third party) based on error codes presumably.
So I am waiting anxiously as to what the problem might be (... and the corresponding fix invoice... )
I thought I'd post a quick update. Car has gone to garage today.
Unfortunately they have not been able to diagnostic the problem as yet... I understand they are awaiting feedback from the diagnostic company (??? don't know if its Jag or third party) based on error codes presumably.
So I am waiting anxiously as to what the problem might be (... and the corresponding fix invoice... )
#13
Right, another update: It seems the module is dead... :-( So new module needed (seems to be around 300 new when available!!!)
From what I could Google, for a 2006 Reg (2007 model I believe), the ref is 6W83-2C496-AD. Can someone confirm the actual part number?
They don't seem to come by so frequently... Even new part suppliers don't seem to have them in stock.
There are plenty on eBay of the 2009-2013 variant (6W83-2C496-AB I believe) but not earlier variant... any thoughts?
Thanks
From what I could Google, for a 2006 Reg (2007 model I believe), the ref is 6W83-2C496-AD. Can someone confirm the actual part number?
They don't seem to come by so frequently... Even new part suppliers don't seem to have them in stock.
There are plenty on eBay of the 2009-2013 variant (6W83-2C496-AB I believe) but not earlier variant... any thoughts?
Thanks
Last edited by tek_uk; 02-16-2023 at 06:17 AM.
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Wondering is the higher voltage could have somehow cause the damage in Park Brake module???
#18
If you measure the battery right after turning the car off it will still be somewhere up by 13.8 to 14.5V.
Turn the car off and let it sit overnight and then measure the battery before you start it the next day and see what it measures. it should be around 12.6 v or higher.