2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
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05-26-2007, 10:29 AM
#22
05-26-2007, 01:00 PM
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05-26-2007, 04:53 PM
#24
05-26-2007, 04:59 PM
RE: 2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
Todays engines have new standards for oil that are a minimum 5000 miles before needing an oil change, but I don't see anything wrong with changing it early for extra protection. I understand the engines are designed differently and there is less metal fatigue and that the oil (especially synthetics) are designed to do things the old oil can't even dream about, but there is certainly no HARM in fresh oil, just the same there is nothing "wrong" with following the new standards you are given by the people who designed the product you are using.
#25
05-26-2007, 05:29 PM
RE: 2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
ORIGINAL: bigdreams05
Hey buck, that guy at the jaguarforum.co.uk whose engine blew, did he get his car fixed. I don't feel like reading his thread til tomorrow. Let me ask you guys something, when you fill up on gas, don't you lift your hood and check every fluid. It takes approx. 3-4 minutes for the tank to fill. In that time, I pop the hood, check my engine oil, brake fluid, clutch fluid, and coolant. I then go and clean my hands after I put the pump back in its place and go on my way.
Hey buck, that guy at the jaguarforum.co.uk whose engine blew, did he get his car fixed. I don't feel like reading his thread til tomorrow. Let me ask you guys something, when you fill up on gas, don't you lift your hood and check every fluid. It takes approx. 3-4 minutes for the tank to fill. In that time, I pop the hood, check my engine oil, brake fluid, clutch fluid, and coolant. I then go and clean my hands after I put the pump back in its place and go on my way.
Over here the fuel pumps only pump fuel with your hand pulling on the trigger.They dont lock on auto fill so you can go and do something else.
#26
05-26-2007, 11:04 PM
RE: 2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
Changing your oil every 3K miles is old news. Cars these days can go at the min 10K before even considering an oil change. Remember, oil doesn't break down, it just gets dirty. With new technology in pistons, rings and what not, oil contamination is not as bad as it was years ago.
The oil technically can last forever...(depending on how you drive) and the ONLY way to know for sure if you NEED and oil change is to do an oil analysis....like we do in the aircraft world. But, the cost out ways the benefit here, oil analysis, 50 bucks, oil change 30.....
I was one of the old school guys with my older Chevy’s...change your oil every 3K or you engine will DIE!!
With the Jag, and BMW, I go to about 7K before I do anything. I check the oil at 3K, still clear on the stick, at 5K still clear, at 7K it gets a bit tanish...8K...change it to be safe! lol
The oil technically can last forever...(depending on how you drive) and the ONLY way to know for sure if you NEED and oil change is to do an oil analysis....like we do in the aircraft world. But, the cost out ways the benefit here, oil analysis, 50 bucks, oil change 30.....
I was one of the old school guys with my older Chevy’s...change your oil every 3K or you engine will DIE!!
With the Jag, and BMW, I go to about 7K before I do anything. I check the oil at 3K, still clear on the stick, at 5K still clear, at 7K it gets a bit tanish...8K...change it to be safe! lol
#27
05-27-2007, 07:03 AM
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RE: 2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
ORIGINAL: one
Todays engines have new standards for oil that are a minimum 5000 miles before needing an oil change, but I don't see anything wrong with changing it early for extra protection. I understand the engines are designed differently and there is less metal fatigue and that the oil (especially synthetics) are designed to do things the old oil can't even dream about, but there is certainly no HARM in fresh oil, just the same there is nothing "wrong" with following the new standards you are given by the people who designed the product you are using.
Todays engines have new standards for oil that are a minimum 5000 miles before needing an oil change, but I don't see anything wrong with changing it early for extra protection. I understand the engines are designed differently and there is less metal fatigue and that the oil (especially synthetics) are designed to do things the old oil can't even dream about, but there is certainly no HARM in fresh oil, just the same there is nothing "wrong" with following the new standards you are given by the people who designed the product you are using.
hmm.. may I remind you of the environment? global warming? carbon footprint? been in the news everyday for years now... YES! I think that there is something wrong with changing the oil unnnecessarily. There has been advances with technology, and unless you are an expert scientist in engine oil, I think an opinion is just that.. an opinion... the facts tell the truth.
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05-27-2007, 09:52 AM
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05-27-2007, 02:38 PM
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#34
05-28-2007, 01:55 AM
RE: 2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
ORIGINAL: bojangles
NOTHING WRONG?????????? NO HARM????
hmm.. may I remind you of the environment? global warming? carbon footprint? been in the news everyday for years now... YES! I think that there is something wrong with changing the oil unnnecessarily. There has been advances with technology, and unless you are an expert scientist in engine oil, I think an opinion is just that.. an opinion... the facts tell the truth.
ORIGINAL: one
Todays engines have new standards for oil that are a minimum 5000 miles before needing an oil change, but I don't see anything wrong with changing it early for extra protection. I understand the engines are designed differently and there is less metal fatigue and that the oil (especially synthetics) are designed to do things the old oil can't even dream about, but there is certainly no HARM in fresh oil, just the same there is nothing "wrong" with following the new standards you are given by the people who designed the product you are using.
Todays engines have new standards for oil that are a minimum 5000 miles before needing an oil change, but I don't see anything wrong with changing it early for extra protection. I understand the engines are designed differently and there is less metal fatigue and that the oil (especially synthetics) are designed to do things the old oil can't even dream about, but there is certainly no HARM in fresh oil, just the same there is nothing "wrong" with following the new standards you are given by the people who designed the product you are using.
hmm.. may I remind you of the environment? global warming? carbon footprint? been in the news everyday for years now... YES! I think that there is something wrong with changing the oil unnnecessarily. There has been advances with technology, and unless you are an expert scientist in engine oil, I think an opinion is just that.. an opinion... the facts tell the truth.
#35
05-28-2007, 07:13 AM
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RE: 2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
what on earth are you talking about. I am no tree hugger I can assure you. But making decisions about such things as when to change oil involves more than just calling up your granddaddy.
the guy originally wanted to share his engine failure. and the topic got shifted to when to change and check oil levels.
any maintenance has some cost and some impact. both need to be considered to make a decision on what level of care to give to a machine.
If you dont care about the environment, then you are not a good person. The US consumes more of everything than everywhere else in the world. Their common opinion of what is too much (of anything)is practically irrelevant.It is like bill gates saying he needs MORE MONEY... the US does not need to use more oil.. they need to use less.
If you want to really start a topic about engine wear.. do so..... and I will contribute as a engineer. I am a professional engineer and I may offer technical, and legally binding answers to questions.
btw... what on e
the guy originally wanted to share his engine failure. and the topic got shifted to when to change and check oil levels.
any maintenance has some cost and some impact. both need to be considered to make a decision on what level of care to give to a machine.
If you dont care about the environment, then you are not a good person. The US consumes more of everything than everywhere else in the world. Their common opinion of what is too much (of anything)is practically irrelevant.It is like bill gates saying he needs MORE MONEY... the US does not need to use more oil.. they need to use less.
If you want to really start a topic about engine wear.. do so..... and I will contribute as a engineer. I am a professional engineer and I may offer technical, and legally binding answers to questions.
btw... what on e
#36
05-28-2007, 08:22 AM
RE: 2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
ORIGINAL: racerx82
I suppose i can help out by not dumping my used oil in the lake......
I suppose i can help out by not dumping my used oil in the lake......
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05-28-2007, 11:59 AM
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05-28-2007, 02:46 PM
RE: 2003 Xtype 3.0 sport 5spd. 42k engine failure
Ah yeah, ok sorry..back to your question bone.
What breaks when you lose oil pressure....
1st thing to go is your bearings...crank and cam, than off to the connectiong rod bearings....not in that order, but somewhere in the general area you can expect the bearings, one, two or more to go....depanding oh how long you drove after knowing you had a loss of oil pressure. The bearings are the soft layer of metal between 2 moving pieces of metal. They provide the "cushion" so you don't have the metal to metal rubbing creating friction. The oil is what cools and provides a thin barrior of protecting between those two moving parts.
No oil, no cooling and no protection = death to any engine. Look at your headlights, their should be two X X's on them. (Sign of death)
x x
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Too see how bad the damage is, drain what remains of oil you have into a clean pan. Inspect the oil for silver/bronze/copper particles. If you see chunks or flakes you have damage.
That about sums it up i think....Sell the car while it's still running or start saving about 7K for a new engine.
What breaks when you lose oil pressure....
1st thing to go is your bearings...crank and cam, than off to the connectiong rod bearings....not in that order, but somewhere in the general area you can expect the bearings, one, two or more to go....depanding oh how long you drove after knowing you had a loss of oil pressure. The bearings are the soft layer of metal between 2 moving pieces of metal. They provide the "cushion" so you don't have the metal to metal rubbing creating friction. The oil is what cools and provides a thin barrior of protecting between those two moving parts.
No oil, no cooling and no protection = death to any engine. Look at your headlights, their should be two X X's on them. (Sign of death)
x x
__
Too see how bad the damage is, drain what remains of oil you have into a clean pan. Inspect the oil for silver/bronze/copper particles. If you see chunks or flakes you have damage.
That about sums it up i think....Sell the car while it's still running or start saving about 7K for a new engine.