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Old 07-11-2013, 04:42 PM
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I recently got 20" rims on my '03 2.5L x-type and I still have a lot of clearance from the fender. I think made a mistake though i think by putting in 225/30/r20 tyres cos they only come in 85 load rating where as default load rating for x-type is 92. Car is fine with just me in it but if i have 1 more person sit in it on bumps etc its not very friendly.

Anyway So I have decided to increase load rating by getting 245/35/r20 tyres. This will mean I need 20mm more clearance from the side wall (if that's what you call it) and only it only increases the tyre overall diameter by 16mm which means it will still fit the car without rubbing on the fender. To get more clearance from the side wall I have ordered a 1.25" wheel spacer for the front and rear which means 32mm more clearance and since the diameter of the tyre is enough so tyres will not be touching the fender I am hoping for some nice wide wheels that stick out a bit.

I am not very experienced so I would like to hear what some more experienced people would like to say about this.
 
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:56 PM
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Proper spacers will allow you to fit these tires, but you need to know the wheel specs to do this correctly. The wheel width and offset will determine where the wheel/tire sits in the wheel well. I like to start with this handy tool to compare tire and wheel combos...

Custom rims, wheel tire packages for your ride - RIMSnTIRES.com

Measure the clearances on the car (all 4 corners), measure them again with people in the back seat, then order the appropriate width spacers/adapters.

I use billet spacers/adapters that are both wheel and hub centric to ensure a smooth ride...
 

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Is your car lowered? I have 245/35/19s on 19x9.5s with a 40 offset and KW coilovers. I had to roll and trim my fenders a LOT to get them to fit. Like "Quartz" above said, without knowing what your wheels width and offset are its hard to say if you'll have problems or not.
 
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they'll never fit. The biggest 20" you'll ever fit under there is a 245-30-20. You need to trust me, I've had 16 sets of wheels on my X-Type in 3 years, 3 of which where 20".
 
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I haven't had my car lowered fortunately. The thing is I have 225/30/r20 at the moment with 3cm clearance on either side and the top from the fender. Increasing to 245/35/r20 my wheel diameter is only increases by 18mm. Putting 225/35/r20 tyres will only increase diameter by 11mm. According to the website above neither 225/35/r20 nor the 245/35/r20 will fit in the x-type but i have seen people with 225/35/r20 tyres on car-domain. they don't seem to complain about rubbing and from the photos you can tell that there is still some space between the wheel and the fender. Am I missing something here?

i guess i found out what i am missing lol. its the fact that when people are sitting in the car obviously i will notice a lot of rubbing unless somehow i raise the car or shave off the fender.
 

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they'll never fit. The biggest 20" you'll ever fit under there is a 245-30-20. You need to trust me, I've had 16 sets of wheels on my X-Type in 3 years, 3 of which where 20".
I'm not an expert, but you may have a mishap on the road and it'll be an expensive mistake!
I had wide rims before but they were only 18".
In the UK, you are ***B R A K I N G ***T H E *** L A W ! if your wheels break the shadow of your wheel arches. IE, if they "stick out"
Don't get me wrong, many people have oversized wheels, geez they look GREAT, but if they are too big, you'll get in trouble and insurance won't touch you, they'll leave you high and dry.
The other thing is clearance and you will know this if you turn the wheel all the way and have someone outside your car for personal investigation.
The recommended wheel is 16" for the X Type and some came with 17" in the later models, I don't know of an 18" model release, but that is as far as you can go, I am sure. 19" is definately a risk any higher, be careful.
having it lowered will allow more space, but you will contradict the other spec/sizing, I am sure.
Can you show a pic, the guys here will know for sure and it's good to get a visual when we are just guessing.

Sorry to put you on a downer, but better to be safe, as Mum says!! That was my theory shot!
Regards, Stu
 

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Old 07-12-2013, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuart Beattie
I'm not an expert, but you may have a mishap on the road and it'll be an expensive mistake!
I had wide rims before but they were only 18".
In the UK, you are ***B R A K I N G ***T H E *** L A W ! if your wheels break the shadow of your wheel arches. IE, if they "stick out"
Don't get me wrong, many people have oversized wheels, geez they look GREAT, but if they are too big, you'll get in trouble and insurance won't touch you, they'll leave you high and dry.
The other thing is clearance and you will know this if you turn the wheel all the way and have someone outside your car for personal investigation.
The recommended wheel is 16" for the X Type and some came with 17" in the later models, I don't know of an 18" model release, but that is as far as you can go, I am sure. 19" is definately a risk any higher, be careful.
having it lowered will allow more space, but you will contradict the other spec/sizing, I am sure.
Can you show a pic, the guys here will know for sure and it's good to get a visual when we are just guessing.

Sorry to put you on a downer, but better to be safe, as Mum says!! That was my theory shot!
Regards, Stu
Cool story, bro.

18" and 225/40/18 is a factory wheel size and tire fitment.
A 225/30/20 is within 0.9% of a 225/40/18. With the same offset and appropriate load rating, you'd pass MOT all day long.
 
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Problem is there are no 225/30r20 tyres with recommended load rating. Highest i could find was 85. Just wondering if i change coil springs for longer ones will it raise my car,
 

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235/30/20 are 88.
 
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:34 AM
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Ye but isn't x-type recommended rating 92?
Also anyone done fender rolling? Apparrently u can get around 1/2" more clearance from fender.
Also i ordered 1.5" spacers. They're gonna look so cool.
 
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Kashaf, You are right with the rating, I don't think you need advice, you gotta do what you gotta do!
Hey stay happy end enjoy the X Type and look after yourself.. And it would be nice to see your baby with some extras!
Stu
 
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I rolled my fenders, I had to roll them to fit my wheel and tire package. I spent a lot of time doing it, hours and hours, since it was my first time rolling fenders. If it wasn't for the fact that I wanted the widest tires I could fit (but I should have gotten 255/30/19) on my car for the extra grip, I would have gotten smaller tires and saved myself the trouble. However, now that I have them on the car and everything, I'm glad to have them. The grip is amazing, and they look awesome.
 
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:31 AM
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hey justin what spacers did u use? i see 245/30/20 tyres with 93 load rating .

Achilles ATR Sport 245/30R20XL 93W All-SeasonUTQG: 400-AA-A

According to website above it will be 40mm closer to brakes and suspension so I think 1.5" spacers should solve that issue. And gaining an extra 1/2" with the fender roller will solve the extra 6mm clearance that I need. The above tyres look really good because of the load rating and fact that they are all-season and with rating of 400AAA meaning they will last a nice amount of time also.




also i am glad i got things cleared up in my head about puting wheels and spacers for anyone who wants to do it on their jag.
 

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I didn't need spacers. I got 19x9.5s with 40 offset, no spacers. I bought a set of 5x108 to 5x114.3 adaptors but I got lucky and found the exact wheels I wanted in 5x108. I kept the adaptors though so I can get another set of wheels without be stuck trying to find wheels in 5x108 I like.
 
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aren't adapters spacers?

ok ye update on that:

spacers don't have bolts on there but adapters do.
 

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Originally Posted by kashaf
aren't adapters spacers?

ok ye update on that:

spacers don't have bolts on there but adapters do.
Adapters adapt the a bolt pattern from something, say 5x108, to something else, say 5x130. There are studless adapters also.

Spacers retain the same bolt pattern and wedge material between the wheel and the hub in order to push the wheel outward.
 
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with regards to raising the car... what is the best way to do it. i have seen coil spring spacers and some people say you can get longer springs. if i get longer springs will it raise the car a little. these are the current specs of the springs that jaguar x-type takes.

Front Coil Springs
Pigtailed at Both Ends
Coil Thickness:13mm
Overall Width:163mm
Overall Height:448mm

Rear Coil Springs
Cylindrical Top & Bottom
Coil Thickness:12.25mm
Overall Width:118mm
Overall Height:363mm
 
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Yes, in a way they are, since they do space the wheels out, but I didn't use my adaptors either. I lucked out and found wheels that are the right bolt pattern and offset and everything I wanted so I didn't need them.
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aren't adapters spacers?

ok ye update on that:

spacers don't have bolts on there but adapters do.
 
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:15 PM
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why do you need to raise the car? Just get the right sized tires and you'll be fine.
 
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i have 225/30r20 yet they still rub a little with the fender on bumps.. cud it be because the load rating on them is only 85?
 


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