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Old 12-24-2013, 09:27 AM
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It's 0 degrees I tried to start my car and it made a loud noise like I never heard before. I've read about oil being cold and it loses it's viscosity. Will my car get messed up if I leave it run? It's like a loud winding/grinding noise, I'm going to get an oil heater I think. Will that help?
 
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:57 AM
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Does it quiet as it warms up? Power steering would be my guess from your description - move the steering wheel back and forth a bit and see if the noise changes. All 3 of my vehicles do that to some extent in bitter cold, but they all stop as they warm up. Surprisingly, the Jag is not the worst, my wife's Jeep Grand Cherokee is!


BTW, if my suspicion is correct, does anyone know if there's a fix for it? Fluid flush/change, maybe an additive of some kind?
 
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Is it a loud high pitched squealing noise that goes away as the car warms up and do you not hear it when the temperature is warmer like around freezing? If so, probably a belt or pulley that is getting worn. Not serious, but something to address at some point soon.
 
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Well I know it goes away after it warms up but this time it sounded a lot worse kinda like grinding /whining noise from the engine and yeah usually it'll go away after it warms up, but this time it sounded much worse
 
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Originally Posted by Alfadude
Is it a loud high pitched squealing noise that goes away as the car warms up and do you not hear it when the temperature is warmer like around freezing? If so, probably a belt or pulley that is getting worn. Not serious, but something to address at some point soon.
It was more on the grinding side it sounded so bad I turned my car off
 
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Old 12-24-2013, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Alfadude
Is it a loud high pitched squealing noise that goes away as the car warms up and do you not hear it when the temperature is warmer like around freezing? If so, probably a belt or pulley that is getting worn. Not serious, but something to address at some point soon.
It does it once it's really really cold id say like 10 degrees and under. Usually after sitting all night.
 
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Ok I am pretty sure it was the power steering, i did move it back and forth and it did make some bad noses, any suggestions as to how to fix that from happening
 
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Ok I am pretty sure it was the power steering, i did move it back and forth and it did make some bad noses, any suggestions as to how to fix that from happening
Did you check the PS fluid level????
 
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Did you check the PS fluid level????
Where's that at, I know I checked the brake fluid
 
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Old 12-25-2013, 01:26 AM
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You should be fine, was -8 degrees here a few weeks ago with a high of 5 degrees. Snow and the car was a little hard to start. Sounded louder and the automatic shifter was harder to put in gear due to the cold making the fluids thick. Car will warm up and be fine. Also, if you have snow and ice caked up like I did on the car it will make noise as well. Belts are the same way when cold. No worries unless you get a battery light.
 
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Cold weather operation is a perfect time for quality synthetic fluids with very low pour points.

Mobil 1 ATF is an excellent choice for power steering pumps in cold weather. As is Amsoil LV (fuel efficient) ATF (as it's even thinner) and has a pour point of -53C.

Engine oil should be a light, quality synthetic in cold weather ops. Can't go wrong with 0W-30 Mobil 1 or similar. They are fantastic oils that will protect under all conditions and have a pour point as low as -50C.

Don't know what happened to your car, but it's clear there is a problem.
 
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Originally Posted by cujet
Cold weather operation is a perfect time for quality synthetic fluids with very low pour points. Mobil 1 ATF is an excellent choice for power steering pumps in cold weather. As is Amsoil LV (fuel efficient) ATF (as it's even thinner) and has a pour point of -53C. Engine oil should be a light, quality synthetic in cold weather ops. Can't go wrong with 0W-30 Mobil 1 or similar. They are fantastic oils that will protect under all conditions and have a pour point as low as -50C. Don't know what happened to your car, but it's clear there is a problem.
I wonder if it's my oil, I have regular 5w-30

Ill try the power steering fluid but never changed/checked it, where is that located?
 
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Originally Posted by Noxparadise
I wonder if it's my oil, I have regular 5w-30

Ill try the power steering fluid but never changed/checked it, where is that located?
If you don't know where your PS reservoir is and you can't be bothered to look in your manual, you should take your car to an expensive mechanic.
 
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If you don't know where your PS reservoir is and you can't be bothered to look in your manual, you should take your car to an expensive mechanic.
Didn't think to check there as a point of reference didn't think they'd have it in there otherwise I would of checked first. I have no problem checking into it just didn't know where to look that's why I came on here for. But now that you mentioned I'll for sure check.
 
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The power steering reservoir is just behind the windshield reservoir. On the passenger side of the engine compartment. You can simply suck out the old fluid and pour in new fluid. The LV fluid is a good choice for very cold weather.

Change it a couple of times driving it between changes. This ensures that you get a full change.
 
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Originally Posted by cujet
The power steering reservoir is just behind the windshield reservoir. On the passenger side of the engine compartment. You can simply suck out the old fluid and pour in new fluid. The LV fluid is a good choice for very cold weather. Change it a couple of times driving it between changes. This ensures that you get a full change.
Thanks I was able to find it. What would you use to suck it out? I was going to ask how that will work adding/replacing . So I can suck out what I see in that reservoir and just refill to the mid-line of the stick?
 
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Anyone know where to get the ATF Mobil 1 power steering fluid I called everywhere..is it just online?
 
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How is valvolone max life power steering fluid? Seems decent good pour point
 
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If it is a wine/grinding sound it more than likely the PS pump telling you it's low.I would have it flushed or do it your self and you will hear a big difference. when PS fluid get dirty from little particles of debre from the seals in the rack & moisture it's normal but if it's dark colored it's dirSty. PS is clear when it is new.
 
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Originally Posted by billbjork
If it is a wine/grinding sound it more than likely the PS pump telling you it's low.I would have it flushed or do it your self and you will hear a big difference. when PS fluid get dirty from little particles of debre from the seals in the rack & moisture it's normal but if it's dark colored it's dirSty. PS is clear when it is new.
Cool thanks I plan on topping off and sucking out refilling. Just wanted to make sure valvoline max life has correct specs for jaguar.
 


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