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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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First, thanks for this forum. I own a BMW 530i and bimmerfest.com is a great resource. Glad to see there is a great one for Jaguars as well.

I've been doing research on the forums the past few days to try and figure out the problem my wife is having with her 2002 X-Type 3.0 (45,000 miles). To date the JAG has been nearly flawless. The only issues to date are:

1. Rattle in the defroster vents. They replaced them with the new versions and now no problem. Out $140.00

2. Driver's side lock stopped working. They fixed it. Out $80.00.

3. Busted seal on the intake. Out $240.00.

4. Battery died. Out $140.00.

So all in all not too bad. But, not I she has two problems:

1. In cold weather (let's say less than 20 degrees) the car makes a high pitch whine for about 15 minutes or until the thermostat reads directly in the middle. This sounds only shows up when pressing the gas; it does not do it at idle. From the research I've gathered on the web and this forum it sounds like maybe a prop shaft problem. Does that guess seem right? If so, what would I be looking at for costs? If you think it's something else, what could it be?

2. The drivers side dash vent (next to the stearing wheel) rattles when cold. I know it's the vent casing (the black piece that fits into dash), because when I took it out the rattle was gone. Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so, how did you resolve?

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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1. and 2. are normal..welcome to Jaguar ownership

1. can be fixed with super glue

2. can be fixed with a tranny drain and refill (expensive)
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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Dennis

can you clarify? I think I'm missing something. 1 - 4 are all done and taken care of.

the next set of 1 and 2 are open items.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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My bad..I meant the last two items you mentioned there..Vents and tranny whine.

Vents-- super glue or silicone adhesive..

Tranny--- drain and flush with refill.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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What makes you think it's the tranny?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Because of the temp issue you mentioned..Mine makes a little whinning noise too until it is up to operating temps...The noise may not go away even after you change the fluid (which I'm about to do, and I only have 30,000 miles on mine)
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Then again, it very well maybe the Center prop shaft support bearing...I kind of doubt it though since you mentioned the sound is appearent when you gas it.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Wouldn't you rather change oil rather than the prop shaft, monster? Welcome btw!
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Don't be worry on the vents .We drove an RR Sport (not Rolls Royce but Range Rover [8D]) and despite being a Range you could still face rattlin issue [&:]lol
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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1. In cold weather (let's say less than 20 degrees) the car makes a high pitch whine for about 15 minutes or until the thermostat reads directly in the middle. This sounds only shows up when pressing the gas; it does not do it at idle. From the research I've gathered on the web and this forum it sounds like maybe a prop shaft problem. Does that guess seem right? If so, what would I be looking at for costs? If you think it's something else, what could it be?
Hey monster..........welcome to the forum

Re the above, either the tranny of prop shaft probly. Check out some of the posts and you'll find its a fairly common issue.
My X type (02) 2.5 did exactly the same for a full year while I had it.......only when it was cold though and usually only for 5 -10 minutes if that long?
There is a FAQ for flushing and refilling the tranny if you'd like to check it out, in the FAQ section.
I'm guessing you have no warranty for the car?

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Default RE: Prop Shaft? Whining Noise? Vent Rattle?

Where does it sound like the sound is coming from?
Does it only happen at certain speeds?
Say around 20-30 mph?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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Thanks for the input so far. So a few things:

1. Problem happens at any speed. It only happens when cold.
2. If it's a transmission flush situation; how much am I looking at?
3. If it's the prop shaft how much am I looking at?

Thanks. Taking to the dealer tomorrow to have it looked at. Should know more then and will report back.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Well, labor on the flushing ain't too much..but the cost of the fluid (Jag brand) is like $51.00/qt and you'll need about 9 qts.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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wtf!! $51/qt?!?!
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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it's more like $40 a qt. but it's still alot!
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Well, it's about expensive as the fluid for my BMW. That stuff better be made with gold
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Ok, got answers...

Per Jaguar, here are my wife's car problems:

1. Engine Oil Pan Gasket Leak: $1134.22
2. Prop Shaft Replacement (the bearing is busted, but the whole thing is replaced as a kit): $1282.82
3. Driver's Side Hub Assembly (no idea what that is): $485.17

I swear I should have bought her a 325xi.

So a few questions..

1. Why is #1 so expensive
2. What the heck is the driver's side hub assembly?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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it's more like $40 a qt. but it's still alot!
Have you checked?..My dealer quoted me $50.75/qt

If $40.00/qt is what your dealer said...I'll be PMing you
 
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