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3.0xf 12-28-2020 08:24 AM

Update Options For Stereo On 2010 XF
 
I would like to update my car stereo on my 2010 XF 3.0

The sound quality is very good so the speakers are fine, however, the main stereo unit is now quite dated and I would like better integration with my phone so I can play music from my library YouTube music, etc and also use Android Auto for Navigation rather than the built-in system which does not provide real-time traffic as you get with Google. There is an auxiliary input jack but the sound quality when I connect my phone using that is very poor.

Is it as simple as buying a new stereo and getting it fitted or are there any other considerations?

I've been looking at a couple of products online that have the features I want I just need to know if they are compatible or not. And if not are there any other options?

Pioneer SPH-DA230DAB
Sony XAV-AX3005DB DAB

thanks in advance.






BritCars 12-28-2020 09:00 PM

You can't really just change the stereo system. It's heavily integrated with the rest of the car

But there are a few Apple play / android auto aftermarket systems. Read around on here for info and demos. Think they will offer what you're looking for.

Oxidizer2k 12-28-2020 11:42 PM

I thought there were no Android/CarPlay options for 2010?

3.0xf 12-29-2020 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by BritCars (Post 2334948)
You can't really just change the stereo system. It's heavily integrated with the rest of the car

But there are a few Apple play / android auto aftermarket systems. Read around on here for info and demos. Think they will offer what you're looking for.

I have run some searches but can't find any information. If you know of any specific threads or can point me in the right direction that would be great.

I was on live chat with someone at Halfords yesterday and he was pretty confident those models would fit but he said it would be best to go to the store to check with the technicians first so going to do that anyway and see what they say. Just be good to know other peoples experiences before I potentially let them make changes to my car.


bealzabubba 12-29-2020 10:35 AM

One example is the threads by Dennis Black, which link to his videos. (There may be others.)

Here's one, and another, which is on the front page of the forum, currently: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...outube-240605/



fivel 12-29-2020 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by bealzabubba (Post 2335166)
One example is the threads by Dennis Black, which link to his videos. (There may be others.)

Here's one, and another, which is on the front page of the forum, currently: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...outube-240605/

There's a related thread here:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...uar-xf-217412/

3.0xf 12-30-2020 10:04 AM

Thanks for the info and links, I've had a read and am now depressed lol. Looks very complicated. Does anyone know anyone who can implement one of these solutions? I'm based in Essex, UK.

Perhaps I can attack from another perspective and just try and get my phone to talk to the system better? Obviously, its already connected via bluetooth but that only seems to allow me to make hands-free calls.

Has anyone had any success connecting their phone using the aux socket? Like I said earlier I tried this but the audio quality was crap (unstable connection, had to set volume to max and still wasn't loud) . Maybe I will buy a new lead and try again.

My radio reception is also quite bad, is there any way I can boost that? Or fix it? I can only get Radio 1,2,3, local radio and reception isn't great.

I know one firm locally so will speak to them. Looks like the Halfords is out of the question.

cheers


BritCars 12-30-2020 05:43 PM

Ah - yes. If you have a 2010 then the car Bluetooth only allows pairing for calls, not for streaming music. But in the center armrest you'll see an old style iPod connector. Buy a Bovee Tune2Air (check the right model or I can look and post it). About $80. Plugs into that iPod connector and is a Bluetooth module for streaming music from your phone. Pair it with the phone (keep the car paired for calls too) and you get streaming music via the stereo system. The volume, track forward and back controls on the steering wheel and on the screen all work to control Eg Spotify etc. and the track name and artist appears on the touch screen
Super cheap - super easy. I've been using mine for 7 years now and stream Spotify or other music all the time. Excellent sound quality - even at high volume...
(I have the upgraded B&W sound system)

BritCars 12-30-2020 05:46 PM

Think this is the one


It doesn't come with the iPod connector cable - should be in your car already else you will need to buy that

Much cheaper alternative is a BT adaptor into the USB socket also in the armrest. Prob $10. But don't think that gives you the same functionality to control music and see track names etc.

Oxidizer2k 12-30-2020 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by BritCars (Post 2335707)
Ah - yes. If you have a 2010 then the car Bluetooth only allows pairing for calls, not for streaming music. But in the center armrest you'll see an old style iPod connector. Buy a Bovee Tune2Air (check the right model or I can look and post it). About $80. Plugs into that iPod connector and is a Bluetooth module for streaming music from your phone. Pair it with the phone (keep the car paired for calls too) and you get streaming music via the stereo system. The volume, track forward and back controls on the steering wheel and on the screen all work to control Eg Spotify etc. and the track name and artist appears on the touch screen
Super cheap - super easy. I've been using mine for 7 years now and stream Spotify or other music all the time. Excellent sound quality - even at high volume...
(I have the upgraded B&W sound system)

I see a bunch for audis. Is it Jaguar specific or will the Audi one work?

3.0xf 01-02-2021 08:15 AM

Thanks for the tips. I only have an AUX connection and my phone is Android (Samsung).

Been looking around on Amazon looking at some options based on your recommendations.

1.
2.

There doesn't seem to be a similar Bovee product that offers that functionality via an AUX socket - I found this one for people who do have the other type of socket -
Be nice to have the steering wheel controls but even being able to play music from my phone (and enhanced FM) would be a nice step up from what I have at present. Given the low cost, I might get one of those devices to try.

I'm leaning towards a product like the 2nd example above as it seems to address both issues of improving the radio and also allowing me to play music from my phone via Bluetooth on the car speakers - that is if I've understood correctly. Looking at some of the reviews I'm not confident it will work though.



BritCars 01-02-2021 07:12 PM

Mine didn't say Jaguar. All it needs is the right type of iPod connector (old style) and it will plug right in. Mine is called "Viseo Tune2Air model WMA1000". Link below

ViseeO Tune2air WMA1000

Reead Boodhoo 01-04-2021 05:00 AM

I have been using bluetooth aux adaptor for a while now. They give decent sound. I am near Gatwick and if u r around i can show u or if u want to see a video, pm me.

3.0xf 01-05-2021 05:21 AM

I only have AUX not ipod connector so no good.

3.0xf 01-05-2021 05:24 AM

Any suggestions on the model to use or will any work?






Reead Boodhoo 01-05-2021 05:43 AM

Try changing your aux cable. I use just that and its actually good sound.

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 08:05 AM

I have been on the same journey for some time. The OEM system is old and outdated really it's what bothers me most about the car.

Reead Boodhoo 01-05-2021 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Carlos Saez (Post 2337805)
I have been on the same journey for some time. The OEM system is old and outdated really it's what bothers me most about the car.

Finally after 1 year looking for options I just found a newly developed system for preface lift xf, i just ordered mine I'll get it next week, I'll post pictures and review.

​​​​​​They have developed a

what did the developdevelre link and pics..

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 08:13 AM

I've been on this same journey over 1 year the oem system is what I hate the most about the xf.

The suffering stopped i just found a newly developed unit for preface lift xf.

Just ordered it, I'll get it next week I'll post pictures and a review.

They added a unique new menu with all the ac functions and car setting with a up to date interface.

Very excited about this its android based 8 core 4, 64 gb.

Check this out...zoom in the picture there's the new menu.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...e675443b39.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...669e3aa008.jpg

John Williams 01-05-2021 10:41 AM

Oh! Like you I have been looking, have you a link to this??

Reead Boodhoo 01-05-2021 10:50 AM

That would be amazing. Following..

John Williams 01-05-2021 10:52 AM

I used this..... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wireless-...Cclp%3A2334524
The aux for the music, the usb to power the unit.

Oxidizer2k 01-05-2021 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Carlos Saez (Post 2337807)
I've been on this same journey over 1 year the oem system is what I hate the most about the xf.

The suffering stopped i just found a newly developed unit for preface lift xf.

Just ordered it, I'll get it next week I'll post pictures and a review.

They added a unique new menu with all the ac functions and car setting with a up to date interface.

Very excited about this its android based 8 core 4, 64 gb.

Check this out...zoom in the picture there's the new menu.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...e675443b39.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...669e3aa008.jpg

that’s great. Can’t wait to see the results.

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by John Williams (Post 2337854)
Oh! Like you I have been looking, have you a link to this??

Sure buddy here goes, this unit came out last week I can't comment anything yet, I'll get it next week, I'll keep you guys updated.

The listing says 2012-2015 but it's very clear by the pictures, it's not.

I have been in contact with the seller, he sent me a picture of the harness it's compatible with fiber optic and, according to the seller it works with bowers and wilkins, amp.
​​​​​​
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msRU2HX


davetibbs 01-05-2021 11:23 AM

Nice - definitely also interested in the outcome of this - I have a 2010 with the B&W setup and had avoided the "2012-2015" options assuming that it would be incompatible. Also interested to know if it supports control of the climate seats, as I can't see that in the screenshots, only the dual-zone climate control.

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by davetibbs (Post 2337868)
Nice - definitely also interested in the outcome of this - I have a 2010 with the B&W setup and had avoided the "2012-2015" options assuming that it would be incompatible. Also interested to know if it supports control of the climate seats, as I can't see that in the screenshots, only the dual-zone climate control.

​​​​​​That's my concern as well, I spoke to the seller, and they said it supports heated steering and climate seats, and car config.

Totally the, 2012 is a different system won't work on prefacelift, they got the years wrong in the listing title, we can clearly see the pictures are prefacelift.

Oxidizer2k 01-05-2021 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Carlos Saez (Post 2337875)
​​​​​​That's my concern as well, I spoke to the seller, and they said it supports heated steering and climate seats, and car config.

Totally the, 2012 is a different system won't work on prefacelift, they got the years wrong in the listing title, we can clearly see the pictures are prefacelift.

If it ends up working, maybe ask the seller to edit the details so it’s easier for people to find. Thanks for taking the time to research this.

davetibbs 01-05-2021 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Oxidizer2k (Post 2337894)
If it ends up working, maybe ask the seller to edit the details so it’s easier for people to find. Thanks for taking the time to research this.

.....But not before you've let us know on here so we can buy one before they sell out :D

John Williams 01-05-2021 12:53 PM

Yes it's the right dash, but wrong years, lets hope it works with our Denso units, I'm sure they would sell loads in the UK if it all works as we hope!

Oxidizer2k 01-05-2021 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by davetibbs (Post 2337904)
.....But not before you've let us know on here so we can buy one before they sell out :D

lol

John Williams 01-05-2021 03:30 PM

What one of the 3 did you order??

3G 32G
4G 64G
6G 128G

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 03:32 PM

Seller has hundreds of different models for different cars, they have some mix-ups, after I placed the order i had to send a picture of my dash denso unit, they confirmed it with the engineer so definitely the years are wrong in the listing.
I have a picture of the wireharness, but can't upload here for some reason, the the connectors are correct.

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by John Williams (Post 2337962)
What one of the 3 did you order??

3G 32G
4G 64G
6G 128G

4G 64G

John Williams 01-05-2021 05:50 PM

Is that just the memory card size?

BritCars 01-05-2021 07:28 PM

There are at least two different stereo systems on the 2010-11 XF. Does it support them all?

Interested to know if reversing camera cuts in on the screen correctly. And does it still use oem microphone for calls? On the F Type the model people are using has its own microphone and call quality is poor

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by John Williams (Post 2338016)
Is that just the memory card size?

That's the ram and rom, the specs are like new cellphones it should run smoothly.

You can get any storage on tf card.

BritCars 01-05-2021 07:36 PM

Great if you can post installation instructions too

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by BritCars (Post 2338051)
There are at least two different stereo systems on the 2010-11 XF. Does it support them all?

Interested to know if reversing camera cuts in on the screen correctly. And does it still use oem microphone for calls? On the F Type the model people are using has its own microphone and call quality is poor


I spoke to the seller they claim OEM camera works, apparently oem mic, too.

Carlos Saez 01-05-2021 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by BritCars (Post 2338051)
There are at least two different stereo systems on the 2010-11 XF. Does it support them all?

Interested to know if reversing camera cuts in on the screen correctly. And does it still use oem microphone for calls? On the F Type the model people are using has its own microphone and call quality is poor


I spoke to the seller they claim OEM camera works, apparently oem mic, too.

Oxidizer2k 01-05-2021 08:28 PM

Are the newer one reverse cams higher resolution?


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