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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 01:45 PM
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I'm still discovering niceties about my 2013 XJ, even after 6 mos, or so. One of which is the amber "snowflake", described in the manual as "illuminates when the external temperature is low enough that ice may be present on the road".


Mine illuminates when the temperature hits 40 degrees Fahrenheit; I think that's about 5 degrees Celsius. My question to those in U.K. is, does it actually snow, or sleet, or freeze at 5 degrees Celsius or do you need to wait until it gets to "zero" (32 degrees F), like the rest of us?


On the other hand, if as the manual states, it illuminates when "ice may be present on the road" then there must be a remarkable sensor scanning the road ahead and the "snowflake" lights up to warn you -- even if it may be 50 or 60 degrees outside, when high in the mountains, and some of that ice may still be lingering in the shadowy corners of the road.


I'll have to test it out in February when I head up to the nearby mountains.


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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Yes different freezing temperatures over here !
Actually mine lights up when the temperature is showing 4 degrees.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KingFala
My question to those in U.K. is, does it actually snow, or sleet, or freeze at 5 degrees Celsius or do you need to wait until it gets to "zero" (32 degrees F), like the rest of us?

I must be reading your question incorrectly.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 10:24 AM
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It often snows when the temperature is above freezing at ground level. Snow forms at higher levels where the temperature is below freezing.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 10:50 AM
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Think over passes/bridges that can have ice on them when above freezing everywhere around them. As some drivers found out here in houston winters past when there was a accident on almost every overpass. I also just state that it comes on to let you know its cold outside just incase you park in the garage and never step foot outside to know
 
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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A little odd that the X351s have the snowflake and the X350s don't. My S-Type and the X300 I had both had the snowflakes. I don't remember if the XJ40 had it or not.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2015 | 08:00 AM
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Think over passes/bridges that can have ice on them when above freezing everywhere around them. As some drivers found out here in houston winters past when there was a accident on almost every overpass. I also just state that it comes on to let you know its cold outside just incase you park in the garage and never step foot outside to know
Also important on those mornings where the overnight low was below freezing, and ice accumulated on the road may not melt very fast below 40degF.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 01:30 PM
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I surrender! I'll accept if for what it is -- a reminder. Just to ruffle a few more feathers, I'd rather they took that spot on the dashboard and gave us a nice-sized readable compass. Then I wouldn't need to worry about ice, accept in my glass.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 11:49 AM
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My S type R has a compass in the rear view mirror.
I thought the XJ would too?
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KingFala
I'm still discovering niceties about my 2013 XJ, even after 6 mos, or so. One of which is the amber "snowflake", described in the manual as "illuminates when the external temperature is low enough that ice may be present on the road".


Mine illuminates when the temperature hits 40 degrees Fahrenheit; I think that's about 5 degrees Celsius. My question to those in U.K. is, does it actually snow, or sleet, or freeze at 5 degrees Celsius or do you need to wait until it gets to "zero" (32 degrees F), like the rest of us?


On the other hand, if as the manual states, it illuminates when "ice may be present on the road" then there must be a remarkable sensor scanning the road ahead and the "snowflake" lights up to warn you -- even if it may be 50 or 60 degrees outside, when high in the mountains, and some of that ice may still be lingering in the shadowy corners of the road.


I'll have to test it out in February when I head up to the nearby mountains.


Safe motoring
It can snow at above 0 degrees but from my experience in the UK, it snows when it gets under 0 degrees.

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I surrender! I'll accept if for what it is -- a reminder. Just to ruffle a few more feathers, I'd rather they took that spot on the dashboard and gave us a nice-sized readable compass. Then I wouldn't need to worry about ice, accept in my glass.
Yeh its just a reminder, that you might need extra time the next morning to defrost or in my case charge the battery
 
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KingFala
I surrender! I'll accept if for what it is -- a reminder. Just to ruffle a few more feathers, I'd rather they took that spot on the dashboard and gave us a nice-sized readable compass. Then I wouldn't need to worry about ice, accept in my glass.
I don't disagree you with you one iota.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KingFala
... My question to those in U.K. is, does it actually snow, or sleet, or freeze at 5 degrees Celsius or do you need to wait until it gets to "zero" (32 degrees F), like the rest of us?


On the other hand, if as the manual states, it illuminates when "ice may be present on the road" then there must be a remarkable sensor scanning the road ahead and the "snowflake" lights up to warn you -- even if it may be 50 or 60 degrees outside, when high in the mountains, and some of that ice may...
Wonderful question; very deep.
It may help to investigate and understand the meaning of the word "may" as used in the description of this helpful (but not omnipototent, as is Lou appears to be) feature, and how to discern the difference between "may" and "will".

Did we ever get a definitive answer to the OP's question on how physics are different in the U.K.; one that could satisfy his curiosity?

After all, snow and ice immediately turn to vapor as the temperature rises above 0C at any altitude/pressure, doesn't it? (Rhetorical)
 

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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 12jagmark
After all, snow and ice immediately turn to vapor as the temperature rises above 0C at any altitude/pressure, doesn't it? (Rhetorical)
Perhaps in Florida, but in most parts of the world it goes from a frozen state into a liquid state, thus the Spring thaw causes creeks, rivers and lakes to rise, sometime flooding surrounding areas.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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Water can go from a solid directly to a gas, but only at a near perfect vacuum. gotta love having useless knowledge in your head. Granted, I make my money knowing the properties of water under very unusual circumstances. Nuclear reactors can really push the limits of things.

In the words of Bill Clinton, "can you please define 'IS'". LMAO.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 10:11 PM
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Glad you asked the question since I don't yet have a manual yet and also live in FL. Sometimes the temps here will get well below 40F and if that light popped up I would be thinking there was a malfunction of some sort. Of course, with any luck, I'll never see it come on (lizards start falling from trees when it gets that cold here), but if it ever does happen at least I'll know what it is.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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sheerplat you can get the manual and more in digital format here: Handbooks & Guides| Jaguar Owners
 
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