I drained my battery down to pretty much zero volts, and had to replace it (long story short). After I put the new battery in, the airbag light was on. Is that normal? I took it in to my local Jaguar dealer, who told me that they didn’t have the diagnostic tools to investigate it.
I finally got around to doing those tests, and found an issue, but don’t know how to resolve it. If anyone can point me in the right direction, that would be great!
After removing the airbags and testing the control module, I found the following anomalies:
Section 8 step 2&3 both read 0 volts. I think that means the Safing Sensor feed is not working.
(Incidentally, Section 8 step 3 passed, and returned bales as expected)
Section 6&7 (crash sensors) steps 1&2 both passed, although from memory, the measured voltage in all instances was about 1V below the battery voltage. If this is an issue, I could recheck it.
Assuming the issue is with the safing sensor feed, what would my next step be?
Dig into the safing sensor. You can check continuity of the wires and probably test the function of the switch itself.
Keep in mind that a number of different faults can cause the thermal fuse inside the control box to blow. If that happens, a new control box is needed, unless a technician can replace the thermal fuse for you. I followed this excellent guide all the way through but in the end I found the fuse blown.
You might have put a charger on the cars battery backwards or installed the cars battery backwards and blown the internal fuse
I personally have not opened up the airbag control unit, but I did install my battery in backwards once
I have yet to connect my replacement airbags as an operating system as they were blown by the previous owner in a crash , so they worked as designed
Now I have a white tape on the battery with an arrow pointing fwd to catch myself
By installing the battery in backwards and hooking it up you will blow certain regular fuse box fuses like the stereo and instrument cluster
With a charger ( and a smaller reversed voltage difference ) you may not see these fuse block fuses blow but possibly the one of interest in the airbag control unit
The charger will run at a voltage higher than a fully charged battery of 12.75 volts
How do you check that? Take it out and open it up?
Yes. Below is a photo of the thermal fuse coupled to a 15 ohm resistor (F1). Too much heat through the resistor and the fuse blows (open circuit). Its a safety feature to prevent a fire after a crash and deployment.
You should still check out the safing sensor, because an actual fault that blows the thermal fuse, if not corrected, will blow the new unit's thermal fuse!
I meant to say that I didn't find any faults with my airbag system, but that fuse was still blown. Could be age related or as Parker says, an electrical glitch of some kind. In your case the dying battery. I put in a new Ford Taurus control box from the mid-90s, same unit, no faults since.
Airbag thermal fuse alongside 15 ohm resistor. Fuse often fails
" You should still check out the safing sensor, because an actual fault that blows the thermal fuse, if not corrected, will blow the new unit's thermal fuse! "
Yes. Below is a photo of the thermal fuse coupled to a 15 ohm resistor (F1). Too much heat through the resistor and the fuse blows (open circuit). Its a safety feature to prevent a fire after a crash and deployment.
You should still check out the safing sensor, because an actual fault that blows the thermal fuse, if not corrected, will blow the new unit's thermal fuse!
I meant to say that I didn't find any faults with my airbag system, but that fuse was still blown. Could be age related or as Parker says, an electrical glitch of some kind. In your case the dying battery. I put in a new Ford Taurus control box from the mid-90s, same unit, no faults since.
Airbag thermal fuse alongside 15 ohm resistor. Fuse often fails
So there was no other sign that the thermal fuse was broken when you ran those tests in the “airbag for dummies” document? How did you know it was the thermal fuse?
There is 1 safing sensor by the right front door hinge at the end of a yellow conduit , look under the the stteering column and up along the right-side wall for your right-hand steering model
There are 2 impact sensors by the front grill and again yellow conduit
All 3 are drawn the same way on paper in the wiring guide so you probably should check all 3
I had a good look, so many wires…… The yellow conduit looked like it went beneath an ECU or some kind of control module in one direction, and disappeared into darkness in the other direction…. I’ll regroup and give it another go. Any more tips very welcome.
Quote: Section 8 step 2&3 both read 0 volts. I think that means the Safing Sensor feed is not working.
Yes correct. Pin 15 is the feed to the Safing Sensor, so if there is no voltage there then that will cause a problem.
The feed at Pin 15 originates at Fuse 17 in RH Heelboard.
Testing of the Power and Ground at the Air Bag control unit is covered in Section 4 of the Dummies guide. So assuming that you have carried out those tests and you have B+ volts at Pin 13 at the module, then it’s a fair conclusion that the control module is faulty.
Today is the day for me to play with mine , but it is in a already fired bags state with new / old replacement airbags not connected but installed
So my observations would not possibly be a ready to fire again as a zero state ready to go system
But I will be checking the internal resistor and have a in town big selection parts store source to replace the resistor coming Monday , and possibly triggering the system ( bang ) to watch it fire off with a needle meter on a bag connector and again a internal resistor check
Removed and opened up Airbag Diagnostic Module.
Tested the fuse (F1) for continuity, blown.
Interesting that it was the safing sensor test that showed up the blown fuse.
Thanks for all the help on this one. I'm not sure why it happened when the battery drained (coincidental?), or perhaps something happened when I gave it a jump. In any case, I can’t find any other faults.
OK, got everything back up and running again, albeit with the airbag simulators, took it for a drive, light stayed off. Reinstalled the airbags, the light’s now back on, and the fuse in the module had blown. Oh well.