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One entire bank of cylinders misfiring i hate this car

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Old May 29, 2025 | 07:25 PM
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Haven't physically looked for the ignition capacitor myself yet, but from the electrical schematic location description (mine is a NA XJ8 so I can't give you a direct comparison).......it likely has a mounting tab on it to secure it under a screw or bolt to the cylinder head or another larger bracket.



As for the separate earths mentioned in the above posts, both coil banks share the same common earth point an 12 volt supply point.

What is different is each bank's fuel injectors are serviced by two independent wiring harnesses that both plug into the engine bay harness via 6 way connectors at the rear of each cylinder head.
It is possible you have a tainted or corroded connection on pin 1 (12 volt supply) of the respective 6 way connector that is reducing the supply voltage to that bank of injectors.
The ECM may detect reduced current consumption of injector(s) but thre is no direct feedback within the injector itself back tothe ECM to report any operational performance issues.
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Throwback
have you checked the special bolt that doesn't interfere with the readings on the knock sensor is in the correct place at the top/back of the valve cover on the relevant side?
??????????? huh no never heard of that either. Just swapped upstream 02 and checked plugs on that side, reset ecm and same 2-4-6-8 came rt back
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by h2o2steam
Haven't physically looked for the ignition capacitor myself yet, but from the electrical schematic location description (mine is a NA XJ8 so I can't give you a direct comparison).......it likely has a mounting tab on it to secure it under a screw or bolt to the cylinder head or another larger bracket.



As for the separate earths mentioned in the above posts, both coil banks share the same common earth point an 12 volt supply point.

What is different is each bank's fuel injectors are serviced by two independent wiring harnesses that both plug into the engine bay harness via 6 way connectors at the rear of each cylinder head.
It is possible you have a tainted or corroded connection on pin 1 (12 volt supply) of the respective 6 way connector that is reducing the supply voltage to that bank of injectors.
The ECM may detect reduced current consumption of injector(s) but thre is no direct feedback within the injector itself back tothe ECM to report any operational performance issues.
Never has this car seen water only when being washed. I havent touched anything near that connector ever. Car is always garaged it's whole life.

Swapped 02 sensors up stream, check plugs all looked good. Same codes came back after resetting the ecm. I can hear a rattling noise hard 1-2 shifts when the r's are coming up, then 2-3 high rpm BOOM restricted perf. Need to see live data
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 09:22 PM
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The rattling noise is NOT a ping at all it honestly sounds like cat material all broken up lol. I am straight piped and I never see any material flying out lol
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OnebadassXJR
Never has this car seen water only when being washed. I havent touched anything near that connector ever. Car is always garaged it's whole life.

Swapped 02 sensors up stream, check plugs all looked good. Same codes came back after resetting the ecm. I can hear a rattling noise hard 1-2 shifts when the r's are coming up, then 2-3 high rpm BOOM restricted perf. Need to see live data
This is all the 2 wire ones i can see rt behind the intercooler. BUT

why would it ONLY act up 2-3 high rpms?
 
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Old May 30, 2025 | 03:09 PM
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Just AMAZING that this on a google search is fairly common on MANY cars and NO ONE NOT ONE LIVING CREATURE EVER POSTS THE CURE THAT FIXED IT!?!?!? WWHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
 

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Old Jun 2, 2025 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by OnebadassXJR
Just AMAZING that this on a google search is fairly common on MANY cars and NO ONE NOT ONE LIVING CREATURE EVER POSTS THE CURE THAT FIXED IT!?!?!? WWHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-155887/page2/ March 18, 2016 Post #22 in the thread. Cats cured mine.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2025 | 11:17 AM
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THANK YOU!! I ordered cats off Ebay cannot wait.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2025 | 12:55 PM
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cats fall apart on the 04-05s pretty often, dead giveaway is pinging and full bank miss. ebay ones and cheapo high flows are gonna melt quick fyi.
 

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Old Jun 3, 2025 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
cats fall apart on the 04-05s pretty often, dead giveaway is pinging and full bank miss. ebay ones and cheapo high flows are gonna melt quick fyi.
Could you suggest any suitable replacements outside of OEMs ?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2025 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
cats fall apart on the 04-05s pretty often, dead giveaway is pinging and full bank miss. ebay ones and cheapo high flows are gonna melt quick fyi.

Please report back.

thanks !
 
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Old Jun 4, 2025 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
cats fall apart on the 04-05s pretty often, dead giveaway is pinging and full bank miss. ebay ones and cheapo high flows are gonna melt quick fyi.
I have used the same co's cats MANY x and never had an issue, it is a "purists" thing where some one would rather spend 2k on oem cats vs $132 shipped just because it doesn't say Jaguar lol. I have 6k total into this car It is getting EBay cats Ill survive.
I'll be putting these in this Friday Night. Ill report back and HOPE this was the issue.
Did this guys cats on an SRT Jeep 2009 about 4 years ago still going strong. https://www.ebay.com/itm/166942047879


 
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Old Jun 4, 2025 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LS-GTA
Please report back.

thanks !
I will 100% unlike so many (at least 40 threads on this same subject) full report coming.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2025 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LS-GTA
Could you suggest any suitable replacements outside of OEMs ?
Anything EPA/OBII Approved will work fine. I got these. https://www.ebay.com/itm/166942047879
 
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Old Jun 4, 2025 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
ebay ones and cheapo high flows are gonna melt quick fyi.
Have you had direct experience with this issue actually happening? We're they EPA/OBDII approved?

I used this guys cats in a 2009 SRT Jeep 4 years now beat on hard still working fine.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2025 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OnebadassXJR
Anything EPA/OBII Approved will work fine. I got these. https://www.ebay.com/itm/166942047879
thanks man, what id really like is something like HPtuners for this generation of Jaguar. Something I can purchase a license then go in and delete the rear O2s and do some other things too. Then I’d just gut the cats and sleep like a baby at night.
Im emissions exempt BTW by title and population density if anyone has concerns.
HPtuners supports the next gen Jaguar, 10 and up, but not 04-09
 
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Old Jun 5, 2025 | 01:04 PM
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Cats came in they are going on tonight after 5 when work is done.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2025 | 09:48 AM
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IT WAS THE CATS!! RUNS LIKE AND ANIMAL!!~ It is so MUCH LOUDER NOW holy **** I need to put mufflers on lol UNREAL mpg and performance.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2025 | 10:23 AM
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Unreal the difference. These must have been clogged from day one and just got worse. The car is a different animal on all levels!! I have vids but it will not let me upload. BEST $132 shipped I ever spent!!




 
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Old Jun 6, 2025 | 10:39 AM
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That’s great news, for you and all of us !

do you have any downstream O2 codes now ?

and I think if you replace that “green” ground strap things will get even better.

Rich
 
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