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I'm pretty depressed.

I was all smiles when I picked up my 2004 XJ8 today. After shopping for over a month and looking at over a dozen used Jaguars, not to mention all the other cars I considered, and narrowly avoiding a few disaster-purchases, I finally had a beautiful car in good condition.

But I realized something on the 25-mile drive home that had never been apparent in my test drives: These seats hurt me.

First problem is the head rest. It sticks forward and prevents me from holding my head straight in line with my body. I need to bend my neck forward, and while this wasn't a problem on a 5-mile test drive, I'm now sitting at home stretching my neck, trying to get the horrible cricks out of it. I couldn't move the head-rest high enough or low enough to get it out of the way.

Second is the upper seat back. The seat back support curves forward just above the center of the back, forcing me to slouch forward. I tried leaning the seat back and extending the steering wheel, and that was better, but still the pain from driving hunched over, with no back support in the center of my back (lumbar support ends below the center of the back), is bad. I had to drive the last ten miles sitting sideways, alternating sides. Now I have a bad pain between (and a little lower than) my shoulder blades.

Does nobody else have this problem? No one mentioned this in any of the dozens of reviews I read before buying. I've driven many different cars and never had problems anything like this.

Any suggestions? Can I buy aftermarket front seats for the XJ?
 

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Odd, I find that the head rest doesn't come forward enough to support my head whilst driving ( guess it would help with whiplash in an crash). Have you tryed to tip it back? It doesn't just go up and down but can be angled just by pushing it up or down with your hand.


As for the backrest it sounds to me that the lumba support is not set up for you. These cars have 16way seat adjustment so you have lots to play with to get a happy position. Try playing with lumba as if that's set wrong it can cause a lot of discomfort.
I would make a small tweak each time I drove it for the first few weeks, and now it's perfect.

I have heared of people complaining that the foam is too hard on early cars but not that the seat was unusable!
 
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Make sure you haven't got the seat going into the PO's memory positions instead of your preference.

Have you tried all the seat adjustment options?



And don't forget to factor in Steering Wheel adjustment.

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Odd, I find that the head rest doesn't come forward enough to support my head whilst driving ( guess it would help with whiplash in an crash). Have you tryed to tip it back? It doesn't just go up and down but can be angled just by pushing it up or down with your hand.
I did not know that. Will try.

As for the backrest it sounds to me that the lumba support is not set up for you. These cars have 16way seat adjustment so you have lots to play with to get a happy position. Try playing with lumba as if that's set wrong it can cause a lot of discomfort.
I would make a small tweak each time I drove it for the first few weeks, and now it's perfect.
I have tried that, but it only goes maybe halfway up the seat. It's the valley between where the lumbar support ends, and where the seat angles forward almost a foot from the top, that's causing me trouble.

Maybe I can hire somebody on Etsy to make a cushion just the right shape to fit there?
 
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I had to remind myself of how the lumbar support is located and adjusted:


The lumbar support assembly is fixed to the seat backrest and adjustment is by inflation of an air filled bladder to give the required support.

Instead of looking for an alternative seat, perhaps repositioning the lumbar support assembly by modifying the brackets could be an option for you. I'm thinking of that as a better approach than changing the seat because the seat electronics are part of the complex Supplementary Restraint System.

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There have been a few posts on here concerning seat comfort. Usually it is the Sport seat that causes the trouble with its side bolsters. FWIW, I can drive from here in Crewe to the Rheintal in Germany, (Bacharach actually), in one day without discomfort. That's about 600 miles, although I do get a rest on the ferry boat to Dunkirk.

All I can say is that with 16-way adjust seats, plus the steering and pedal adjsut, you should be able to find a comfortable setting, which you can then enter to memory.
 
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Bought a seat cushion at an auto parts world for $20. Might help with the back. Not enough help with the neck.
 
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Maybe you have something wrong with your seat. It did take me a few days to find my setting, but that may have been due to too many setting choices. I taken some long drives and feel the seat is just right, the best out of all the cars I owned or driven.

I would try and take a ride in another X350 and see if you still feel the same way.
 
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I agree, it took awhile to find the right set of adjustments, but I found it! Sometimes after a long ride, I will make a small tweak one way or another.

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My 04 VDP seats are very comfortable. Must have a strangely shaped caboose!

 

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Instead of looking for an alternative seat, perhaps repositioning the lumbar support assembly by modifying the brackets could be an option for you. I'm thinking of that as a better approach than changing the seat because the seat electronics are part of the complex Supplementary Restraint System.
Graham
That is a brilliant and dangerous suggestion. For now, the back rest is keeping me free from pain, but it slides around a lot.
 
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Default Upper back Shoulder arm and neck pain XF seats

This is horrible I just bought the car 6 months ago and I am in constant pain only relieved by ice and aleve twice daily. The seats in this XF have 6 inch hard leather bolsters on the side that wrap shoulders inward I am getting a pinched nerve in my neck and the shoulders are making a popping noise The worst part is the dealer says value is 10K less than I bought it only 6 monhs ago!! Rip off Tata and Jaguar Dealers should be ashamed to make and sell these cars I had a Jag in the 90s and It was comfy and fun. Huge loss but I am trading in for a Benz
 
 
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