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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 08:23 PM
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Wanting to change the wheels on my 02 Sport. I know our pattern is 5x120.65
But I'm not seeing much in the used wheel market for that bolt pattern and our +33 offset. I'm looking to put some Speedlines, OZ's, BBS, HRE or similar to that. I see a lot of 5x120 stuff. Is it ok to run that bolt pattern on our cars?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Z07Brandon
Wanting to change the wheels on my 02 Sport. I know our pattern is 5x120.65
But I'm not seeing much in the used wheel market for that bolt pattern and our +33 offset. I'm looking to put some Speedlines, OZ's, BBS, HRE or similar to that. I see a lot of 5x120 stuff. Is it ok to run that bolt pattern on our cars?
I'm no expert with this, but I was looking into this several months ago. And I've heard from other forums that it'll work, but the only concern is damage to the studs if put under too much stress under torque/load.

But I would try to replicate a 5x120 pattern on a cardboard piece and see how it fits on the stud, and if you feel comfortable with the fit/clearance, then I'd say go for it.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AZjag1999
I'm no expert with this, but I was looking into this several months ago. And I've heard from other forums that it'll work, but the only concern is damage to the studs if put under too much stress under torque/load.

But I would try to replicate a 5x120 pattern on a cardboard piece and see how it fits on the stud, and if you feel comfortable with the fit/clearance, then I'd say go for it.

Just my 2 cents.
Hell yeah, I like that idea! Thank you good sir.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 08:33 AM
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There are many people using the 120 pattern, with the mentioned stress on the studs as a disadvantage.
I guess most get away with it, but my XJ-S broke a stud when I took off the 5x120's fitted by the previous owner.
No after market for me therefore.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 09:27 AM
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I think putting on 120 PCD wheels without any modification is looking for (dangerous) trouble. The tapered section of the nuts will not sit properly and it will cause bending stress on the studs. It seems that there are so called "wobble nuts" that would compensate for the PCD difference 120 and 120.65 (18 inch rims? 120mm vs 120.65?). Otherwise, the 120 PCD holes (the tapered section mostly) can be precision machined to make them concentric with 120.65 studs. I have seen some articles, with pictures, on the internet on this mod.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 11:50 AM
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There's a couple manufacturers that make wheels under the correct pcd offset bore etc. for the x308's. Vision wheels made some pretty good options, I'll try to pull the part number once I get to my desktop later

EDIT: For a while I was considering these as direct drop in replacements, that matched all OEM wheel specs properly: vision milanni tycoon 9052-8812GRM20

I think there was some American Racing Torq Thrust or similar wheels offered in 5x120.65, correct offset, and they just needed hub spacers to adapt the Jag hub to the rim's bore.
 

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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 06:41 AM
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The PCD of the XJ40 is 120.6 with an offset pos 32 but the main thing about these wheels is the centre bore. On the XJ40 we have a centre bore of 73.8. Vehicles such as BMW 325 has a PCD of 120 and an offset pos 34, however the centre bore is 72.6 on most cars the centre bore is where the load is carried, and if your centrebore is too big then you risk the chance of snapping wheel studs because they are now carrying the load of your vehicle, so in the use of 120 PCD remember it will be .3mm offset of the stud inside your wheel, anf if you decide to take the steps of having the centrebore turned out. You will find that your wheel studs are only going to be holding the wheel onto the hub because the hub centre will be carrying the load. I have only used these options because BMW only has 2mm difference in its offset, and while some manufacturers offer very little in the wheel options for our Jaguars, we can spend another $60.00 getting the new wheels machine out to fit the Jaguar centre bore, I am not able to offer any advice about the PCD as some may argue the .6mm difference is enough to make them unsafe. I personally would take the option of making sure I have the 120.65 PCD and find another company that also uses a similar offset. Some others may also argue they have used the 120 PCD with no problems for years, so you decide who is wrong. Bear in mind that your insurance may not take a relaxed stand if they were to find you have use wheels not made for the vehicle you have them fitted to. That is my 20 cents worth anyway.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2022 | 10:29 AM
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Carrying the load on the studs is problematic to be sure. I once placed some Mags on my Mitsubishi Van and the results
seemed to be encouraging....at first. I did a 360 degree turn and the right front wheel popped off! It was a low speed
maneuver and no harm was done, however I recognized the error of carrying the load on the studs. Various mechanics
have chimed in saying I could increase the center bore to accommodate things but I have never tried that. I think it looks
good with the 14" on the front and the 20" on the back. It gives it some rake without suspension mods.

 
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 03:00 PM
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I have been running 5x120 pattern wheels for a BMW for years but I modified them like this: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/whee...t-pattern.html
 
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Old Nov 23, 2023 | 11:59 AM
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I did a lot of research to replace the wheels on my XJC. Custom BBS cost $4,000+.

I went for set of super rare Jaguar 16" lattice. Very happy.



 
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Old Nov 23, 2023 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric318
I did a lot of research to replace the wheels on my XJC. Custom BBS cost $4,000+.

I went for set of super rare Jaguar 16" lattice. Very happy.

On a Coupe, drool face...I doubt they were in their black Friday sale. Will you have the centres finished in BBS gold or straight silver? They are Rare.


 
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I have a set of 15" lattice wheels somewhere in my storage room. How rare are these?
 
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Not sure of the offset, but I believe most late model Corvette and Camaro wheels are 5x120.65. Might be able to make a set work. I was contemplating going down this road when I stumbled on a set of XK revolvers for my winter tires last year.
 
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