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Badbenz94 11-17-2018 02:15 PM

Time to sell my 01 XJR How much $?
 
Hello Everyone!

Well the hard time as come to sell my car. The last three years I may have put 500 miles on her. She has 91k miles, runs fantastic. BRG with Oatmeal interior. The car is in fantastic shape in and out. However I did remove the headliner(its been recovered) and I have not yet reinstalled(unheated garage). Too I have never replaced the tensioners (no noise but I know that doesn't mean anything). I have replaced the ball joints, tie rods, shock bushings all within the last 5k miles. It does have a new DieHard AGM battery. Always changed with Mobile1 and a Jag filter(have 2 more) every 3-5k or now, every year. Always garaged, originally from Texas and doesn't see salt or snow. Here are a few exterior shots, Ill get some interior as well. What do you think its worth?

Thanks!!

Chris

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Carnival Kid 11-17-2018 04:08 PM

Nice color, not high miles, but not "low" miles, sounds like it has been cared for, and it is an "R".

But, tensioners not done, and headliner out, that stings. From a buyer's point of view they're $3,000, and maybe $500, fixes.

I would certainly get the headliner fixed, it's too aesthetic a thing not to. Then maybe a less-knowledgeable buyer may not be too concerned about the tensioners. You haven't been.

As the car stands I think you would struggle to get more than tire kicker prices. If you fixed the headliner......... if the right buyer came along, maybe $4,500. If you fixed the tensioners, maybe $5,000?

So difficult to second guess these cars at this age. So many out there for very little money, and yet sometimes that certain buyer comes along and pays way too much for one.

Compare your car to this one.....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-XJR/26...3:pf:0&vxp=mtr


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Badbenz94 11-17-2018 04:46 PM

Whoa, I didn't realized they dropped that much in value since last time I even considered it 4 years ago. Thank you. Yeah Ill get the headliner reinstalled and shoot for 5k. Probably not until spring though as no one will want this car going into winter.

Thank you again,

Chris

96x300 11-17-2018 05:49 PM

Honestly if it were me, I would keep it and start driving it. That's a beautiful car and I'd rather get a couple grand worth of smiles, and sell it later with higher miles for a bit less $.

Badbenz94 11-17-2018 06:42 PM

I hear ya! However I just picked up a one owner 66 Mustang GT 4 speed from Utah and don't really need both. While I have loved the Jag as long as I've owned it(bought it in 2006 out of Texas with 41k miles as I hate rust and knew I wouldn't drive it in the snow here), My heart is really with older cars. I will say there is never a time I drive her that I don't get stares and admiration for the beautiful lines and color.

Chris

Z07Brandon 11-17-2018 10:05 PM

Fck she is pretty. I sold my vette two months ago, and am going to replace it with another. But man if I wasn't, i'd buy this off you for the right price due to the tensioners.

Badbenz94 11-18-2018 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Z07Brandon (Post 1990078)
Fck she is pretty. I sold my vette two months ago, and am going to replace it with another. But man if I wasn't, i'd buy this off you for the right price due to the tensioners.

If something changes let me know. I am going to give it to a friend of mine who runs a new car dealership in Chicago and sell it on consignment. I guarantee you wont find a nicer unit than mine(heck my floor mats have never seen use as they were always covered with other floor mats lol). It will sit inside with their high end cars. Id like to get 5 for it, so we will see.

Chris

tahoemedic 11-18-2018 02:50 PM

Without the tensioners being changed out $5000 is a fair price as long as you put the headliner back in. These cars have for the most part bottomed out on price.

Jhartz 11-19-2018 08:55 AM

Pay your dealer friend's best tech to renew the secondary tensioners ($120 for parts and four hours -- give him $400 off book and another $100 to put the headliner back in). You will probably get close to $10000.

I wish I had the room at my condo -- I would come get it tomorrow.

harvest14 11-19-2018 09:34 AM

I agree with Jim. If the wood and leather are in good shape, and there are no neglect issues with the car, it's worth a bit more than your average X308. The XJRs are not as easy to find, especially in the popular BRG color.

Now, if it's also throwing throttle-body codes, has a leaky heater hose, shifts "funny", is running on one fuel pump, has a klunky suspension, has terrible fuel trims etc. etc. etc. -- Then even though it's beautiful it's an expensive fixer-upper. If all it needs are tensioners and the interior looks as good as the exterior then you've got a pretty desirable car there!

Badbenz94 11-19-2018 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by harvest14 (Post 1990733)
I agree with Jim. If the wood and leather are in good shape, and there are no neglect issues with the car, it's worth a bit more than your average X308. The XJRs are not as easy to find, especially in the popular BRG color.

Now, if it's also throwing throttle-body codes, has a leaky heater hose, shifts "funny", is running on one fuel pump, has a klunky suspension, has terrible fuel trims etc. etc. etc. -- Then even though it's beautiful it's an expensive fixer-upper. If all it needs are tensioners and the interior looks as good as the exterior then you've got a pretty desirable car there!

No issues at all, trans serviced at 60k , no codes ever, both fuel pumps replaced about 4 years ago, so yes just tensioners. Ill post interior pics this weekend,

Thank you again for you insight!

Chris

Badbenz94 11-20-2018 10:32 AM

Oh and I just replaced both motor mounts, the water pump, both of those gennie Jag units, new AGM Die Hard battery..among other things... :)

Chris

Coventrywood 11-24-2018 01:38 PM

Bring A Checkbook
 
Badbenz94, you may get a higher price at an on-line auction attended by those looking for something just like your car. Please check out "Bring A Trailer".
I realize it appears to compete with our own Jag Forum "Marketplace" but the interactions between potential bidders, random hecklers and the seller is a very different dynamic.

I agree with all above recommending you complete the chain tensioners and headliner.

Pay attention to the presentation of cars getting an above average final bid.
Whether or not you use 'Bring A Trailer' you can see how a careful, detailed presentation, and a seller willing to answer all questions honestly makes a huge difference in realizing maximum potential. My completely made-up guess is; presentation quality can affect the final bid by 30-35%.

The on-line response to your presentation can actually drive bidders interest up or down.

Lessons learned there can be applied wherever you market your beautiful car.

Badbenz94 11-25-2018 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Coventrywood (Post 1992761)
Badbenz94, you may get a higher price at an on-line auction attended by those looking for something just like your car. Please check out "Bring A Trailer".
I realize it appears to compete with our own Jag Forum "Marketplace" but the interactions between potential bidders, random hecklers and the seller is a very different dynamic.

I agree with all above recommending you complete the chain tensioners and headliner.

Pay attention to the presentation of cars getting an above average final bid.
Whether or not you use 'Bring A Trailer' you can see how a careful, detailed presentation, and a seller willing to answer all questions honestly makes a huge difference in realizing maximum potential. My completely made-up guess is; presentation quality can affect the final bid by 30-35%.

The on-line response to your presentation can actually drive bidders interest up or down.

Lessons learned there can be applied wherever you market your beautiful car.

Thank you so much!!

I have been told a few times this week to post there as well. I will have it photographed and the headliner back in this week, however i will not be doing the tensioners and will be clear in regards to that in the listing. I believe that is a better place for the enthusiast both selling and buying.

Chris

Z07Brandon 11-25-2018 07:40 PM

Well, you'll get more there for sure. I was gonna make you an offer, but after people saying you could get 10k, I was out lol. You gonna list it at no reserve:D?

Once I get my next vette, I'm saving up for an R:)

Badbenz94 11-26-2018 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Z07Brandon (Post 1993213)
Well, you'll get more there for sure. I was gonna make you an offer, but after people saying you could get 10k, I was out lol. You gonna list it at no reserve:D?

Once I get my next vette, I'm saving up for an R:)

There will be a reserve but it wont be 10k lol. PM me

Chris

Badbenz94 12-15-2018 08:01 PM

Well I finally got the headliner done.

What do you guys think?

Based on others on BAT, I feel pretty confident. Any opinions or thoughts are welcome.

I think I get some better than phone photos and post it on BAT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-jaguar-xjr-2-2/

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Chris

Carnival Kid 12-15-2018 08:35 PM

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Beautiful looking car, great pictures, Interior looks especially nice, as does the exterior. I don't think you are going to have any problem selling it.

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Z07Brandon 12-15-2018 09:21 PM

She's a beaut! I bought an xjr r1 today:)

Badbenz94 12-23-2018 08:51 AM

I submitted to BAT. I’ll see what they say and let you know if it gets posted.

Chris

parwun 12-26-2018 11:24 AM

Iam so jealous to you guys in US. such a beauty for less than 10K.... would never happen here is europe.
Dont underestimate your car! its rare and great condition!

Badbenz94 12-26-2018 08:24 PM

My application was accepted by BAT. It will hopefully be listed later this week or first part of next week!

Chris

Z07Brandon 12-26-2018 09:21 PM

No surprise there. They pretty much accept anything that is submitted. Good luck!

Badbenz94 12-27-2018 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Z07Brandon (Post 2005686)
No surprise there. They pretty much accept anything that is submitted. Good luck!

I don’t know about that 😊. All the cars I’ve seen on that site either are very nice or have some sense of collectibility. Haven’t seen any Fairmonts or Chevettes 😉

Chris

Carnival Kid 12-27-2018 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Badbenz94 (Post 2005987)
All the cars I’ve seen on that site either are very nice or have some sense of collectibility.

Agreed, like this 03 XJR which sold for $23,560
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-jaguar-xjr/

or this exceptionally nice low mileage 03 XJ8 that went for $22,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-jaguar-xj/

or this 2000 XJR for $14,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-jaguar-xjr-5/

They have some really nice cars on their site, and I don't think you will have any problem selling yours.


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Z07Brandon 12-28-2018 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Badbenz94 (Post 2005987)


I don’t know about that 😊. All the cars I’ve seen on that site either are very nice or have some sense of collectibility. Haven’t seen any Fairmonts or Chevettes 😉

Chris

That's why I said everything submitted gets accepted. Everything submitted is nice, or cool in some way. My dad has sold a V8 Vantage on there. And a 99 RT/10 they've approved.

BaxtersJag 12-28-2018 10:31 PM

Bring A Trailer, or BAT is a very unique place to sell a special interest or collectible vehicle. They are somewhat particular in accepting vehicle applications. There age many knowledgeable followers who can become very candid in the many comments that accompany each auction. This can help an auction or hurt it.Therefore, be very honest in your pictures and description. Do not conceal any flaws (all vintage vehicles have something) and be very active answering questions during the auction.Detailed, high-resolution pictures are a must -bidders are buying sight unseen. Get access to a lift and take many pictures of the undercarriage. Add some videos of a cold start up and driving.X308 XJR's tend to do quite well on that site. Good luck. I think it will easily surpass the $5k mark.

Badbenz94 01-09-2019 08:07 PM

Thank you everyone for your input and this community

Here she is:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-jaguar-xjr-5/

any commentary or suggestions are welcome. :)

Chris

King Charles 01-09-2019 08:44 PM

Good luck !

Z07Brandon 01-09-2019 08:55 PM

Good luck!

Carnival Kid 01-09-2019 08:56 PM

Wow, excellent ad, couldn't wish for more photos.

I think the "faults" should be downplayed, and also combined to just one place in the text...."The paintwork is near perfect, the only minor imperfections being some barely discernible marks caused by long ago bird droppings, careful inspection can reveal a small crack in the passenger airbag cover, and door trim, but a complete set of wood paneling is included in the sale. There is a minor chip in the windshield which is hardly noticeable, but the seller will install a new windshield if it is a concern to a prospective buyer"

I would remove the word "stock" when referring to the Premium Alpine System.

And I would completely remove the reference to the antiquated Navigation System.

The only thing I might expand on is the fact that these supercharged Jags have the super-strong, super-reliable, Benz 5G-Tronic W5A580 5 speed automatic transmission to deal with the extra supercharged power. (most buyers probably know this but it doesn't hurt to promote it).

I would re-word the information about the keys to read: " the car comes with three sets of original keys, including the valet keys for extra security".

You repeat the information about the mileage and who did it, I would get rid of one of those and only mention it once.

I would combine the "things done" into one paragraph, You repeat battery, fuel pumps, water pumps etc.....combine it to" "Things that have been replaced include new tie rods, ball joints, fuel pumps, water pump, engine mounts, brake pads, hoses, as well as a new battery".

Hey, not saying I'm right, but that's what I see on a first read of the ad.

Badbenz94 01-09-2019 11:54 PM

Thank you so much Carnival!!! :) I am forwarding on your post in complete entirety. I have had many back and forth conversations with them and it was what I got. However a different point of view and verbiage is so important and I am grateful!

Is your car supercharged by chance?

Chris

Carnival Kid 01-10-2019 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Badbenz94 (Post 2011518)
Is your car supercharged by chance?

Chris, no, mine is the "standard" XJ8 Vanden Plas normally aspirated (with the BMW ZF5HP24 transmission)

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Carnival Kid 01-10-2019 05:44 PM

Chris, I think I would also remove the information about the headlight units having been disassembled for cleaning. I don't think it's a plus, and if anything it arouses suspicion as to why they needed doing. Not a big deal, but I think it's more of a detriment than a positive.

Badbenz94 01-16-2019 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Carnival Kid (Post 2011879)
Chris, I think I would also remove the information about the headlight units having been disassembled for cleaning. I don't think it's a plus, and if anything it arouses suspicion as to why they needed doing. Not a big deal, but I think it's more of a detriment than a positive.

Well she has been sold. Probably for more than what most would consider since the tensioners haven’t been done but less than I thought she would go for. :/

I want to thank all of you as this is one great community of Jag owners and this forum has saved me a lot of time and money to boot. I’ll miss my Jag without any doubt and may never find a car that clean again unless it’s one of yours ;)

Im sure from time to time I’ll ghost just to see what’s going on. Until next time. Thank you and God bless!

Chris

Carnival Kid 01-16-2019 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Badbenz94 (Post 2014539)
Well she has been sold. Probably for more than what most would consider since the tensioners haven’t been done but less than I thought she would go for.

Chris, a really nice XJR,and an excellent ad with beautiful pics. I think you got a really good price all things considered and should be really happy. And BAT was probably the best choice for the sale location.

Congratulations on the sale. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...8fea5037f7.gif
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Jhartz 01-17-2019 12:35 PM

What am I missing? How much?

badger2196 01-17-2019 12:35 PM

I personally wouldn't go near it at that price with those original plastic tensioners still in place. It also looks like your interior veneer is suffering from the" clouding" issue that some model years were prone to. I do wish you luck though - I love to see these sell for decent prices..

[Guess I missed the part where it sold at $8,250. Someone overpaid IMO, but good for you]

Carnival Kid 01-17-2019 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jhartz (Post 2014817)
What am I missing? How much?

The car sold for $8,250.00

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-jaguar-xjr-5/

Badbenz94 01-18-2019 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by badger2196 (Post 2014816)
I personally wouldn't go near it at that price with those original plastic tensioners still in place. It also looks like your interior veneer is suffering from the" clouding" issue that some model years were prone to. I do wish you luck though - I love to see these sell for decent prices..

[Guess I missed the part where it sold at $8,250. Someone overpaid IMO, but good for you]

I can appreciate that, however from my point of view, I would rather have a car that has excellent paint and body and one with an outstanding interior. I would rather spend 2k on tensioners than have to have the leather replaced in the car and or deal with paint/body issues. Too I am including another set of wood with the car. :)

Chris


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