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LnrB 11-12-2014 06:26 PM

Console-ation FAQ
 
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It seemed like a good idea, as I had to have the console apart anyway, to address a few irritations that have bothered me since I got the car.

One thing I want to do was upgrade the light source in the Opticell to a much brighter LED. Also the shifter indicator light has Never worked, so I have to actually know which way I'm going as I can't see otherwise if I'm in reverse. The backup lights don't work properly (they come on, just not in Reverse) and I can't see a way to adjust the position of the switch, so I want to put them on a toggle so I can turn them on at will (if he wouldn't mind). I also want to put a cutoff switch in the AC compressor relay power wire.

As I've excavated layers of wiring and trash (numerous extra screws, washers and lengths of electrical tape, not to mention extra wire) I have made some interesting discoveries. In the picture below you might take a look at that white wire in the center. Take special notice of the left end, just beyond the splice (Yellow arrow). Do you like that inch of bare strands?

And look how it's threaded through all the other wires past the Vampire clip. The other yellow arrow points to where the tape on that bundle was cut and opened where that wire originally exited the bundle and plugged into that relay. At least they used white wire! Some of these splices they just stuck in any color they felt like.

That stubbed off bundle sticking out from under the shifter is why the cruise control doesn't work (apart from the fact there is no mechanism for it).

I had to cut the red/blue pair at the white arrow. They power the alarm LED; you know, the little red flashing one that warns others you have a car alarm and they'd better stay away? They installed the LED from the top of the panel and made no provision for unplugging it. That will be fixed.

So far then, the cruise control doesn't work (which he was quick to tell us but only when I asked) because only the switch is present. The radio doesn't work because the speakers aren't plugged and there is no power to the antenna. The power wire is broken off the shift indicator (too much flexing no doubt) and the outlet light is vampired off the Opticell.

It's been interesting to say the least.

I'll be adding to this thread too as I do things with the console.
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Mkii250 11-12-2014 10:19 PM

Poor you, what a mess! Good luck with that project.

JagCad 11-12-2014 11:50 PM

LnrB:


Well, I can't fuss too much. I can't remember or figure out et, which of the relays on my VIN bar is the starter relay!!! It isn't the original tin can Jaguar unt, but a little black box ala Bosch!! But, I can crank it from the engine bay!! Hot wire style.
Rain tomorrow and errands to do, so it will be Friday that I get back to hunting for the WY wire from the switch and the "black" to the neutral start.


I did a lot of splicing in that cavity. But, no vampires. I weaned off those decades ago. Just solder and shrink tubing. Shrunk with a match then, I didn't have my slick HF sourced heat gun then


My conversion instructions said to cut or remove that big bundle that goes along the right side of the bundle. OH, oh, that includes the wire to the fuel pump!! Oh, weel, I splice one in.


My shift tower is from an XJS and as such has a big green switch on the left side. It is somewhat adjustable. The original Jaguar BW had s similar switch on it's left side.


My conversion kit, from Johnscars included an XJS switch to be affixed via a large nut to the XJ6 shift tower. A bit adjustable as well.


The guts of a CC is the bellows attached to the throttle. Mine is in my parts bins. Never hooked it up. there should be another cable along the throttle cable for the bellows to pull on And, an electric harness and connector for the command function. Mine lines fallow.


I'm sure that any remnant of an after market alarm will go to the junk pile.


The one from my daughter's Passat is in the recycle!!


Ain't it fun???


PS, my Jeep has the guts of a car phone!! Little mike, squiggly antennae and black box. But no hand set???.






Carl

JagCad 11-12-2014 11:52 PM

PS.


Goofed. Wrong send button.


Oh, I tried to open the picture on your post. got a black screen!!

LnrB 11-13-2014 09:37 PM

Thanks, Guys,

Greg, this is neat and clean compared to when I first took the cover off! But I was on a roll at that time and didn't want to stop for a picture. There were dropped screws, crimp splices, washers, wads of tape, drill shavings, SO much Garbage!!

But so far, it's quite plane what originally went where. The only things I plan to change in there have not been fooled with at all. I'm going to route the AC compressor wire up to the window cut-off switch and that should be quite straightforward. I also need to do something about the backup lights but Carl might have the answer there.

For this nest of worms I only plan to untangle things so wires lay in a more logical, compact arrangement. I have no idea what that relay does but everything seems to work so I'm not messing with it.

Carl, try the picture again. The vampires still seem to work so I'm not messing with them. I found 3 in here, but that's Nothing compared to what's under the steering wheel! If something didn't work, or they wanted to add something, Just find a known hot wire and vampire off of it. Not only that, usually it's not like this where they at least used a white wire of similar size to go around a problem they didn't fix, some of them under the dash are Completely different in color and gauge! As I said, it it's working, I ain't fooling with it!

I have a big can thing on the shifter with 2 green wires. I'm thinking that's the backup lights? I'll see if I can adjust it any, or if I can even make a slotted hole.

The neutral start switch is up at the front end of the shifter, I found that just fine. It needs adjusted and/or cleaned because the car starts Just Fine in Reverse!! That was exciting I tell ya!

There are No cruise control parts on this car other than the switch, the wires of which you can see peeking out from under the shifter. There is no extra throttle cable and no bellows. Someone tried to explain to me how to put a Chevy CC to the transmission but I didn't understand a word, except that if one already know how to do it, it was doable. I'm leaving that for the time, even though it would be nice if it worked.

I'm leaving the Viper alarm alone because it seems to work OK (kind of handy actually, to have the remote lock), and I have No idea what all they hacked into to make it work. I just know there's a wad of wires the size of a grapefruit under there that seem to be Viper related. I don't know if the car came with electric locks or if all that was added by the company at the time of conversion/restoration.

And yes, it is fun. I'm glad I have several months to figure it all out.

I was just now going to take pictures of the switches and my camera won't turn on! It looks like I'm in the market for a new one! Aw Darn!
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o1xjr 11-14-2014 01:57 AM

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Mine has 8 wires + one harness!
Two wires to the cigarette lighter(or should I be now saying the accessory socket.)
Two to the lights,in the shifter panel and cig lighter.
Two to the switch I fitted to turn off the cig socket(for my gps) when I stop.
Two to the kick down switch in my ashtray I added.( I tell the kids it is the"super turbo boost " button)...why don't they believe me?
And one harness I had no reason to question where it goes or what it doe's.

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LnrB 11-14-2014 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by o1xjr (Post 1100862)
Mine has 8 wires + one harness!
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There were 2 harnesses in mine, one was opened to reroute the white wire (which I have no idea what it's for) and one for the window switches.

I only plan to add an extension to the AC relay wire so I can turn it off when it's not needed, Or when passing.
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JagCad 11-14-2014 10:03 AM

At one time, an AC cut out was a great idea for hot engines. Too many revs with AC on could disintegrate the compressor.


My Jeep has such a switch. Kind of odd. Lots of power isn't among it's attributes. My son borrowed it once and agreed it ran nicely, albeit poopless , but the AC was lousy. Well, he built hot engines at the time. Then, I pointed out the button to shut the compressor off. Oh!!!


Unless you drop into low to pass, your 350 should have the suds to pass just fi9ne w/o screaming. Just another wire to go haywire. Sorry, could not resisit the weak pun.


As to the N/S and reverse, tis matte of fiddling to get the right adjustment. You have to keep in mind that the gates on that original shifter tower are for the BW, not quite the same as the gates for a GM transmission. But, doable. I chose the XJS shift tower as it was configured for a GM transmission. That is what some of the XJS V12 cars used.


As for cameras, decades ago, I got an new Olympus. Still works just fine. Limited as it has no USB port. So, I use a card reader. A somewhat newer but still antique is my Canon. It does well, and has a USB port.


Each is battery sensitive. The Canon refuses rechargeables. And eats even good AA's like popcorn


So, try nice fresh batteries, it might just work.


No luck with clicking on the picture to see it in a larger size. Might well be just my machine. It doesn't like big files!!!


Chores, then if it warmed up, get under the bonnet again for the start circuit.


Carl

LnrB 11-16-2014 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by JagCad (Post 1101116)
At one time, an AC cut out was a great idea for hot engines. Too many revs with AC on could disintegrate the compressor.

My Jeep has such a switch. Kind of odd. Lots of power isn't among it's attributes. My son borrowed it once and agreed it ran nicely, albeit poopless , but the AC was lousy. Well, he built hot engines at the time. Then, I pointed out the button to shut the compressor off. Oh!!!

Unless you drop into low to pass, your 350 should have the suds to pass just fi9ne w/o screaming. Just another wire to go haywire. Sorry, could not resisit the weak pun.

As to the N/S and reverse, tis matte of fiddling to get the right adjustment. You have to keep in mind that the gates on that original shifter tower are for the BW, not quite the same as the gates for a GM transmission. But, doable. I chose the XJS shift tower as it was configured for a GM transmission. That is what some of the XJS V12 cars used.

As for cameras, decades ago, I got an new Olympus. Still works just fine. Limited as it has no USB port. So, I use a card reader. A somewhat newer but still antique is my Canon. It does well, and has a USB port.

Each is battery sensitive. The Canon refuses rechargeables. And eats even good AA's like popcorn

So, try nice fresh batteries, it might just work.

No luck with clicking on the picture to see it in a larger size. Might well be just my machine. It doesn't like big files!!!

Chores, then if it warmed up, get under the bonnet again for the start circuit.

Carl

I don't know how I missed this, Carl!
Our van has a compressor switch and I use it quite a lot. Mostly it's good for ventilation without AC.

That's really what I want a switch for on Nix. In mild weather the compressor comes on needed or not and makes me too cold. It even comes on in Winter sometimes! I don't want that.

It will be an easy modification; I've already found the hot wire from the servo to the compressor, and I have a switch on the ski slope for it so I should have no trouble wiring it up.

I found the backup switch, I'll see if I can adjust it. I might be able to elongate the holes. If I can't do that I'll look for another shifter.
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LnrB 12-08-2014 04:12 PM

AC Compressor Shut-Off Wire Run
 
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It's turned into Winter here. It's not cold, which makes it even harder to take, but it's so Dark and dreary. It's Very wet, too wet to work today, and it's December anyway, and I have everything done, so I got to working on Nix again, for the first time in THREE WEEKS!!

I thought it would be good to start slow with something relatively simple so I spent some time cleaning up the area from where husband cut out the rusty floor. Then I ran the compressor shut-off wire up to where it will connect to the window cut out switch on the ski slope.

Once I found all the parts it wasn't hard. First, the wires to the window cutout switch had to be connected together as I would Really like for the windows to work. I found a double tie-down in husband's electronics stuff which was Perfect! I wrapped the stub well to be sure nothing would short out later.

When the conversion was done the OEM compressor wire (green/brown) was unplugged from the servo and left hanging, and a new solid green wire was run in its place to the compressor relay, which is on the compressor on my car.

Husband just happened to have a spool of the exact same green wire in the shop! I cut into the existing wire, threaded the end from the spool through what seemed to be a safe and secure route, spliced the spool end to the compressor end coming out of the firewall.

Then I threaded another length exactly parallel to the first one and spliced it to the short piece coming off the servo. I put female spade connectors on both extensions. I have continuity throughout.

To keep both extension wires under control I zip-tied them to other bundles that lie along the route to the switches, the last tie being very near the merged ends of the window cut-off wires. There should be No trouble with them reaching the switch Just Fine!
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LnrB 12-10-2014 12:13 PM

Question About Shifter Light
 
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When I took apart the console, after sorting through all the extra wires left lying around, I found the power wire for the shift indicator was broken off the bottom of the socket; too much flexing over the past 30 years since conversion I suspect.

But with all the "changes" in there, and so many wires just cut and left hanging, I don't know which wire was supposed to power the light (or if it's even there or if they vampired off something else), nor do I know how the socket was originally held in place.

When I uncovered it, the socket was just sitting in the hole, the bulb keeping it from falling through, which resulted in shaking the bulb's head off and it came out in my hand in pieces. I have no doubt I can rebuild the socket, but then what? Also, the socket mount appears to have its bottom half bent 90 degrees as shown in the second picture. What looks like a shadow of the top is actually the bottom.

Can someone please post a picture of what this is *Supposed* to look like? How the socket is *Supposed* to be held in place, and where the power is *Supposed* to come from?

Thanks Muchly.
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LnrB 12-12-2014 09:37 PM

New Light Sockets
 
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Today I *Finally* found sockets that will work as replacements for the Opticell socket and the shifter indicator socket. I haven't specifically mentioned that the Opticell socket was so loose inside it was about to have a dead short and blow another GOK hidden fuse. This was also why it only worked some of the time. It seemed wise to deal with the socket issue while I have everything apart, along with upgrading to an LED source.

Plastic was the only material available for the Opticell replacement socket, but at least it does have a steel insert to which I could easily solder a ground wire. After that it was simply a matter of connecting the original colored harness to the socket -- Including making a soldered Y-splice to replace the vampire clip that fed the accessory socket light. Both of these are now LEDs so the current draw should be a mere fraction of the incandescents they replace.
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LnrB 12-15-2014 01:40 AM

Shifter Indicator LED Upgrade
 
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Previously I mentioned how the shifter indicator didn't work when I got the car, and how the whole socket, bulb and all fell apart in my hand when I took it apart, and how all the parts weren't there anyway, and how it had been cobbled up to the point I had no idea how it was originally constructed. No one had their console apart at the time to post a picture of how this was intended to be so I knew I would have to find a replacement socket for the LED (I got a green one for this application) upgrade and do what I thought was the best option given my ignorance of the original configuration.

Husband The Searcher finally found the part number (S20) of a socket that might work for the shifter light but also might need a few alterations. I was completely Amazed he found one with a mount so close to OEM!! It indeed needed new holes after I discovered the existing holes made it mount too low but that was SO minor.

The new socket also came with a wire that was obviously too stiff for the continual flexing it would undergo when mounted on the shifter. Husband had some Really Fine Flexible wire of which I twisted two strands together and soldered them to the nail-head hot contact of the socket and put heat-shrink over 'just in case.' (Seeing as I'm replacing the incandescent bulb with LED the current draw will be a mere fraction and those Tiny wires should be OK.) Then I soldered a male spade connector to the other end for ease of disassembly in the event I ever have to take this apart.

I found where they got the power for this indicator; a *"Person"* who worked on this prior to me had vampired off the clock light to feed the shift indicator. ( I shortened that wire and put on a female spade connector for the shifter light.). However, during that first renovation that wire was installed so short and was so stiff that I imagine it might have worked correctly for about 15 minutes before the wire broke off the bottom of the socket. This was probably not entirely a bad thing as all the fuses for this stuff are buried and hidden God only knows where.

So anyway, I got the socket modified for the super flexible wires, soldered a male spade connector to it drilled new mounting holes and connected it up. As it's a hot wire I taped the connector with white electrical tape. I have run the shifter through its full range, Park through 1 (which I Never use), and there is no stress on the indicator wires.

I haven't put power to it all as yet because there are entirely too many other things to be done to the car before I ever connect the battery. But I'm confident this will all work better than it did when I got the car and that is my definition of Success.
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TheWarlock 12-15-2014 08:43 PM

Ah, looks like Lnr is really out to straighten the POs follies, good going. Can you give me the bulb sizes for the opticell and shifter please? Ive done the dash, need to get to these. Thanks, and we love gawking at the great pics you post

LnrB 12-16-2014 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by TheWarlock (Post 1121428)
Ah, looks like Lnr is really out to straighten the POs follies, good going. Can you give me the bulb sizes for the opticell and shifter please? Ive done the dash, need to get to these. Thanks, and we love gawking at the great pics you post

Thank you, Warlock,
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'sizes.' The original shifter bulb had a number of 1893 stamped on it. It has a T-3 base, 9mm diameter, miniature bayonet.

The LEDs are called Instrument Dashboard Gauge Lamps replacements, it's an assortment of 8/$12.79; 2-Ice Blue, 2-White (which looks a bit blue to me), 2-Red, 2-Green. They came from eBay, seller keylife. Power isn't listed but they're Bright!

The Opticell was originally a 5 watt bulb, feeble on its best night, but with the socket coming apart it was literally hit and miss. The replacement is called Xenon White, 3.5w, LED Interior bulb; came in a 2-pak/ $4.34. eBay seller, abl-powerzone. They have a domed lens built in and are Really Bright!! Well, you can imagine a 3.5 watt LED!

Husband thinks in might be too bright for the Opticell, but he doesn't know just how feeble the incandescent was as he never rode with me at night. I will say I haven't actually tested these for operational brightness, but they have to be better than what was there before.
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weattg44 12-16-2014 01:16 AM

Not to hijack this thread, but in my S3 XJ6 there is a ground strap that I had to remove to rework the gear selector. I cannot remember where it is bolted to though, anyone have any idea what it is grounding? Thanks

LnrB 12-16-2014 09:19 AM

No worries about hijacking the thread, all information is good, all questions are relevant to someone. I've learned some of the best things from "hijack" posts.

My car was converted to a Chevy 350 almost 30 years ago, I don't see a ground strap on the transmission. I assume it's grounding through the engine which has a Really Good ground that was added soon after I got the car.
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JagCad 12-16-2014 12:24 PM

A couple of things.


1. A separate ground strap from shift tower to floor pan as opposed to the original jaguar strap down under from transmission to chassis? I don't recall the former beig present when I was in that cavity?


2. Yup, the shift indicator light in my car was just lying in the cavity, loose. A black plastic receptacle with an ear to secure it in the little 90 degree bracket. But, the plastic ear was busted off. Well, not elegant as LnrB's fix, I merely used a tad of safety wired to secure it. It does work, sorta. Bright, uh,uh.


3. Remember the old tech long reach telephone cords? Coiled to allow expansion and flexing. Very early on, we used them to "elegantly" cover wiring. But, a coiled wire works. Just wrap a length around a finger to form a coil. At times, I've done it in the engine bay, just to look "cool".


4. In order to get the n/s micro switch synchronized and the reverse switch also synchronized, the shift tower must be removed and the work done on the bench with the aid of a VOM for continuity or a test lamp and a power source for the bench. Each fiddly, but doable.


The mostly useless Haynes book has some schematics that might apply best to the S1 and S2 cars. Perhaps color codes that might be there could ID the needed wires and the unneeded.


Kudos, LnrB, you do nice work. Looks like in the kitchen, huh!!


Carl

LnrB 12-16-2014 02:38 PM

Thank you, Carl,

The light on the tower works. I think I might have a bad ground in the Opticell because it doesn't work now that I replaced the socket. I'll check it out on the battery. I know the light worked before I put it in the socket so I have an idea where to look for discontinuity.

I do as much soldering in the kitchen as I can because the light is better there and I can hold components in the vise to work on them. If I absolutely Must do that stuff in the car I will, but it's just So much more convenient in the kitchen, especially if the part is out of the car anyway.

My NS switch works fine *except* that the car will start in reverse (That was exciting!!). It has some adjustment to it which I plan to try.

The reverse lights though, there is No Way to adjust that! But there is enough length in the wires to reach a toggle switch in that ash tray; that's what I plan to do (with some Killer LED backup lights). I do NOT want to take that shifter off!!
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LnrB 12-17-2014 10:27 PM

Opticell Fuse?
 
I mentioned above how the shifter LED works just fine but not the new Opticell. I thought maybe it had a bad ground but in fact it has no power.

It was working when I took it apart, although rather feebly, but it doesn't now. The assembly works fine when connected directly to the battery but not when plugged into its proper connector. I have checked the ground, it's good.

I'm assuming there's a fuse in the circuit that I've blown. All the other lights work as far as I can tell (except that half the marker lights are out), only the Opticell is affected.

Can someone tell me, does it have a hidden fuse, and if so where is it?

Thank you in advance.
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JagCad 12-18-2014 01:32 AM

Could it be that the ignition must be on for the Opti to light up??


If, I should've known that it was, my apologies.


I made a couple of little vises for soldering. One uses wooden clothes pins screwed to a block of scrap wood, and the other a pair of alligator clips on bent clothes hanger wire. Very useful when I did the original lumping".


Carl

LnrB 12-18-2014 09:07 AM

Thank you, Carl,
I had the ignition on along with the lights.
I guess I'll have to rip the bundle open and trace the wire back to a live one.
I begin to see why there are so many vampire clips in there.
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LnrB 12-18-2014 09:37 PM

Discoveries
 
I discovered a couple things today:
The Opticell power goes through a 15A fuse, #7, by the driver's knees. It was OK.

There are 3 wires on the dimmer. The power and dash lights are next to each other. The third wire (red/white) goes through the dimmer bypassing the rheostat (it's never dimmed) and from there travels through a bundle with many other wires to the light. I didn't know that; whenever I've had the dimmer apart I've put it back the way I found it, always wondered what the 3rd wire was for. When I 'tied' the others together for lights I neglected to include the 3rd wire in the circuit. There is power to the Opticell now.

The 3.5 watt LED I listed above is insufficient for the Opticell. Illumination was better with the OEM 5 watt incandescent bulb. What I would like to have is one of those 9 element flashlight heads. I stuck one in there just to check, and it worked Really Good and the physical size is Perfect! But I don't have the skills to convert one of those. So the search continues.

I got the LED "replacements" for the pillar lights, what a disappointment! Each 'bulb' contains 6 individual LEDs with tiny lenses to focus their light forward. For their size they're quite bright, and they might be OK for glove box but they're Not enough for courtesy lights. I had better light from the incandescents. I don't think it's gonna work for the map light either; simply not enough photons produced. The search continues there too.

In fact, the only LED success I have really had was LED replacements for the 1156 backup lights. Boy Howdy are they bright!! I think they're 23 watts! And White instead of yellow. I'll Like those the first time I flip them on! I mentioned I'm going to run them through a switch in the ash tray because the Backup switch isn't activated in Reverse.
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john_cook12 12-19-2014 12:25 AM

good to know those new fangled LEDs aren't all they are cracked up to be in real life - I'll just use those hot bulbs! keep at it

o1xjr 12-19-2014 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LnrB (Post 1123324)
I got the LED "replacements" for the pillar lights, what a disappointment! Each 'bulb' contains 6 individual LEDs with tiny lenses to focus their light forward. For their size they're quite bright, and they might be OK for glove box but they're Not enough for courtesy lights. I had better light from the incandescents. I don't think it's gonna work for the map light either; simply not enough photons produced. The search continues there too.

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The LED's in my pillars are almost too bright ,I will have a look and see what they are.

Edit: No markings on them at all, I know the po got them off ebat. (Xenon white LED's) First pic has the defuser on , secoud doesn't.

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See link below, mine measure about 35mm.
2X 36mm 3 LED 5050 SMD Xenon White Festoon Error Free CAR Auto Light Bulb NEW | eBay

LnrB 12-19-2014 10:00 AM

Thank you Clarke! That's Just what I wanted!
I've just ordered 3. They'll be here sometime before Spring I hope.
Now I only need to find an Opticell LED.... Of get Really creative.
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LnrB 12-19-2014 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by john_cook12 (Post 1123387)
good to know those new fangled LEDs aren't all they are cracked up to be in real life - I'll just use those hot bulbs! keep at it

Thank you, John,
I haven't given up yet. Clarke has posted a link to LEDs that seem to be Just Right for my needs for pillar lights.

I'll keep looking for an Opticell replacement, I'll post my findings.
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anjum 12-19-2014 03:27 PM

If they are the T10 or 5W5 type then these are pretty good.
2 x T10 Car Wedge LED CREE White Q5 Reverse Backup Light Bulb 7W DC 12V 30V C1MY | eBay

The front bit is a bit longer though, and most of the light is directed forward. I can't remember the set up in the opticell.

LnrB 12-19-2014 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by anjum (Post 1123734)
If they are the T10 or 5W5 type then these are pretty good.
2 x T10 Car Wedge LED CREE White Q5 Reverse Backup Light Bulb 7W DC 12V 30V C1MY | eBay

The front bit is a bit longer though, and most of the light is directed forward. I can't remember the set up in the opticell.

Oh, for the backup lights!
Thank you, Anjum, but I already found those at my local O'Reilly parts store as a straight across replacement for 1156 single element bulbs. They're 23watts! and will Certainly give me enough light to see what I'm backing into. I'm thinking 7watts just wouldn't be enough.
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LnrB 12-20-2014 08:21 PM

Continuing the search for an LED replacement for the Opticell, I found a rather loooong thread beginning in November 2011 over in Jag Lovers(JagFORUM Logon).

Members there had also been disappointed with the offerings of V12s.com but someone found an alternative site, BA9S 5 SMD LED 1.5 Watt 12VDC - Automotive LED Lights - LEDLight the product of which pleased him very much.

I have ordered a couple of these (even though I only 'need' one) and will report back when they arrive and I've installed one.
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LnrB 12-27-2014 04:52 PM

Opticell LEDs Have Arrived!
 
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This morning in the mail I got the LEDs I ordered a few days ago from
BA9S 5 SMD LED 1.5 Watt 12VDC - Automotive LED Lights - LEDLight

Each unit consists of 5 individual LEDs that are configured in such a way that they take full advantage of the Opticell reflector. I put in the incandescent bulb and then this one to test how much heat was generated, almost None with the LED!

Not only that, the 5 together are VERY bright! On this bright day, in the shop without lights but full North facing natural light, I can see the heater controls when I turn the lights on.

The Ing and Lights are less bright but that's not surprising given the inverse square law of electromagnetic energy (all forms of radiation including light): For double the distance from the light source, the light falling on a surface is divided by 4. The Lights and Ign switches are about twice the distance from the Opticell as the heater controls so it follows they are only about 1/4 as bright. I don't mind that, because it's obvious if I have the ignition or lights on. But it's not obvious where the heater controls are set.

I understand on that Jag Lovers thread I posted, (I gave the wrong address BTW, try this; jag-lovers.org/av.php?1501608n10) that some people found ways to install micro lights in the Ign and Light switch covers. I have no intention of doing that.
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JagCad 12-28-2014 11:11 AM

Inverse square! I am impressed.


Those do look slick.


Tis cold outside, but at least it was only dew, lots of it, and not frost!!


Carl

LnrB 12-28-2014 03:07 PM

Thank you, Carl,
Among other interests I dabble in astronomy; hence my familiarity with the inverse square law.

There was heavy frost on the rear window of the van this morning. I imagine some plants finally bit the dust, and hopefully the mosquitoes and gnats.
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LnrB 12-31-2014 09:25 PM

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I nearly missed the mail today! I would have had to wait another day if I hadn't thought of it this afternoon.

The LED pillar lights have arrived! They're a bit blue and that doesn't enhance my yellowish interior a bit! But they're certainly bright enough so I can find the key hole in the dark. I imagine the map light will be bright enough to even read a map! Now that I know what they are, I might look for a warm white as opposed to these cool whites.

They're the Cutest things! 3 LEDs mounted on a little PC board which in turn is mounted on a heat sink! Total length, 35mm. (They require 1/2 inch breathing space behind them which is no problem in either application where I plan to use them.) Unlike other LEDs, these have no polarity. Husband says they've put a bridge rectifier in the circuit so they'll work either end up.

I misunderstood the packing arrangement. There are 2 bulbs in each package, but I missed that little detail, so I ordered 3 to be sure I had one for the map light. I received 3 packages of 2 lights each; 6 lights.

This was truly an international transaction. I bought them from eBay in Oz (the link Clarke posted earlier); they were shipped from Guangzhou Province in China, to California in Merca, for the princely sum of $3.65 US of which $1.35 was shipping!!

A few pictures below for your entertainment.
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LnrB 02-05-2015 10:13 AM

Evaporator Drain?
 
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I was crawling around under Nix yesterday, cleaning up some other stuff, and it occurred to me I had the Perfect opportunity to find if I have evaporator drains or not.

I found 2 fittings like the one pictured, one on each side of the transmission tunnel; I can see the other one, just can't get a decent picture of it. However, you can see there are no tubes like so many others have asked about when they find them, "What are these tubes hanging down under my Xj6?" I knew some time ago I didn't have those.

There doesn't appear to have ever been any liquid dripping from either of these, both are dry and dusty around them just as you see here.

I've been sure since I read about evaporator drains that this is the reason my driver floor was such a mess.

I haven't stuck a wire up there to see if they're plugged, but the tube is so short I'm a bit afraid of shoving it up into the cavity and losing it forever.

Thoughts?
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Jose 02-05-2015 11:05 AM

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I thought I had replied in this thread but I resolved my poor Opticell lighting, (actually it was resolved for me by Mike Eck of Jaguar Clock). Mike is an electronics wizard and Jaguar collector, what can I say.

he made a LED array of 7 powerful LEDs mounted on a circuit board inside the Opticell unit and now even the Headlights switch symbols can be seen at night.
The Headlights switch is the farthest / longest fiber optic cable from the Opticell unit, so if you can make that one real bright, just imagine the others.

you might write to him and ask if he will make you the same thing he did for me. You'll have to send him your Opticell unit per the pictures below.

jaguarclock.com

LnrB 02-05-2015 06:27 PM

Thank you, Jose!
I remember seeing mention of this, but I have almost NO electronics experience (make that, Positively no electronic experience), and this sort of thing is quite beyond me. However, I will contact Mike and ask about this upgrade.
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LnrB 02-27-2015 09:48 PM

Center Vent Mod
 
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I first saw this over in the XJS section I think it was, but I can't find it now to give that member credit. If you happen to fall by and recognize this as your idea just chime in.

Everyone knows the stock center vent in the Xj6 series is mostly useless because the vast majority of cold air is directed into the back seat, where only Korean midgets or very small children are able to sit in relative comfort.

I saw that someone closed off the center portion of that vent by making a small box and directing air into the louvers of the end portions of that vent. This would also have the effect of directing more air to the side vents at the ends of the dash. It seemed like a Capital idea so I stole it.

Not wanting to make a permanent modification in case I don't like the outcome I got a center vent from a SIII to butcher. Not to worry, it had several broken links in its own center section so there was no loss when I broke them all out and smoothed the sides with an aluminum file. But I was on a roll that evening so I didn't get any pictures of the louver-less center portion or the process making it that way. Sorry.

Measurements of the center portion as follows:
Width; 4-3/4 inches (120mm)
Height;1-7/8 inches (50mm)
Depth; 1-3/4 inches (44mm)

With these measurements I made a box from a heavy cereal box and bent it over a straight edge until it fit snugly in the hole; second picture below.

Then I sprayed it gloss black and let it dry for several days until well cured.

I got some black felt from a craft store, cut it to the sizes of the sides and back of the box, glued it to the box with black weather strip adhesive ONE PANEL AT A TIME (be sure to leave space for folding or the felt lined box won't fit into the vent), folded it up and glued the felt lined box into the vent, again with weather strip adhesive.

If you've never used The Black Death be aware you must be careful or you'll have it All Over Everything including your hands, work area and project.

The finished vent is pictured third. It will Just hold my phone.
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o1xjr 02-28-2015 07:53 AM

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:icon_hyper:Elinor, if you had included some glueing tabs into your original cut out you could use double sided tape to make it a solid structure. Especially if you used light Aluminium plate and body mould tape.
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Or for real strength you could drill and rivet the tabs. A bit of overkill for a phone holder but the next owner might want to store something heavy there.

But I am in packaging and presentation for a job.

............and you don't have enough to do already:icon_hyper:

Jose 02-28-2015 08:04 AM

1) you could also have sprayed it with "flock paint" which is what Jaguar used in the glove box and center console tray, a sprayable finish that looks and feels like felt but is called "flock", although the felt is thicker and "cozier".

2) why are you looking for evaporator drains? do you have moisture or water in the floor carpet along with a strange moldy odor? the problem might not be the evaporator draining, but a removable panel under the carpet, located on the side of the transmission tunnel very near the accelerator pedal. This panel is removable to access the band adjustment of the transmission. There is or might be another panel on the opposite side, passenger side. All Jaguars have them. These panels need to be caulked, then screwed in place. To see them you have to raise the capet, then raise the yute insulation, a very smelly job for which I would use a respirator filter so I don't end up breathing centuries old bacteria like Carter did in Tut's tomb. If the caulking has dried out, water and engine fumes come into the cabin. Simple as that. To fix it, remove the panel and renew the caulking bead around the panel, you can use silicone caulking, something that does not harden but remains flexible and is water-proof.


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