Yet another XJ12C restoration thread
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Sarc (04-10-2016)
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We're back !
Work and life has been getting in the way, but we are making steady progress on the tanks and fuel lines.
Both tanks are changed out and new fuel senders fitted.
All fuel lines and switch over valves in the trunk have been done in stainless steel braided as planned.
We just have the runs front to back to do now and we should be back to operating mode this weekend.
Work and life has been getting in the way, but we are making steady progress on the tanks and fuel lines.
Both tanks are changed out and new fuel senders fitted.
All fuel lines and switch over valves in the trunk have been done in stainless steel braided as planned.
We just have the runs front to back to do now and we should be back to operating mode this weekend.
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Rhett (05-05-2016)
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Fuel system rebuild complete.
Stainless steel braided hose throughout. Single piece from the engine to the valves in the trunk.
Both fuel senders working. Switch over working. New fuel pump is much quieter than the old one, probably because the old one suffered from rust ingestion.
Car fired up and ran perfect. Not bad as its not been started for a month.
One unexpected good thing we found was that running the car without rear mufflers makes it sound so much better, so I am going to make up straight pipes and try it out for a while.
Stainless steel braided hose throughout. Single piece from the engine to the valves in the trunk.
Both fuel senders working. Switch over working. New fuel pump is much quieter than the old one, probably because the old one suffered from rust ingestion.
Car fired up and ran perfect. Not bad as its not been started for a month.
One unexpected good thing we found was that running the car without rear mufflers makes it sound so much better, so I am going to make up straight pipes and try it out for a while.
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I am not likely to lose my keys.
Keys to the house, each car (4), mailbox, work truck, truck boxes (2), the front gate, work sheds (2), folding pliers, sharp knife and a few other odds and ends.
Not Jaguar keys here though. I fear overtaxing a 40 year old ignition lock. Those I leave in the car which is locked in the garage.
EDIT:
Sorry.......
(';')
Keys to the house, each car (4), mailbox, work truck, truck boxes (2), the front gate, work sheds (2), folding pliers, sharp knife and a few other odds and ends.
Not Jaguar keys here though. I fear overtaxing a 40 year old ignition lock. Those I leave in the car which is locked in the garage.
EDIT:
Sorry.......
(';')
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Fuel system rebuild complete.
Stainless steel braided hose throughout. Single piece from the engine to the valves in the trunk.
Both fuel senders working. Switch over working. New fuel pump is much quieter than the old one, probably because the old one suffered from rust ingestion.
Car fired up and ran perfect. Not bad as its not been started for a month.
One unexpected good thing we found was that running the car without rear mufflers makes it sound so much better, so I am going to make up straight pipes and try it out for a while.
Stainless steel braided hose throughout. Single piece from the engine to the valves in the trunk.
Both fuel senders working. Switch over working. New fuel pump is much quieter than the old one, probably because the old one suffered from rust ingestion.
Car fired up and ran perfect. Not bad as its not been started for a month.
One unexpected good thing we found was that running the car without rear mufflers makes it sound so much better, so I am going to make up straight pipes and try it out for a while.
Were the fuel returns and the extra return valve always in the trunk on your car? My S3 only has the changeover valve in the trunk, the return valves are under the rear wheel wells. Also, I do like the sound of straight pipes on my 6, two of them under the hood should sound great. Took the muffs off shortly after I got it. Hell I couldn't hear it running! May offend purists though.
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LnrB & Ronbros:
Remote locking and me??? I do have a FOB for my Jeep. Batteries pooped out. Not worth getting new ones..
Elinor: wise as to the keys. My IS succumbed and cost me no end of travails. Much better one from David Boger fixed a lot.
ALL; In olden days, just remove the distributor rotor. leaving car that way insured it's safety.
My first T lost it's keyed ignition switch early on. I merely used a high quality toggle. WWII aircraft surplus. Cheap as well. Til, a "pal"
stole it. In class, I heard it navigating the quadrangle. I jumped and ran out there. Punch in nose, retrieved car....
Pal and T mentor Billy lost the key to his neat little 27 Roaster/pickup T. It had a distributor, an after market thing. American Bosch as I recall. So, we hot wired it, permanent. When parking, just nudge the engine til the ammeter showed 0 discharge. Points open, safe. Kill against a curb or choke t out. Remove distributor rotor for safety.
Much later, in 58, I built a T. Three or four similar toggles in a row.
One cranked the engine. The other three had to be set in a set order, up, down, etc, to fire. This version used a Jeep distributor. Remove rotor for safety....
Last night's news had a piece on high auto thefts in this area and the failure of factory alarms and locks. The real crooks get the way in fairly easily. Once you know how to beat one GM lock, all are vulnerable. The guest "expert" had a safe after market one. A bit biased?
Carl
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Remote locking and me??? I do have a FOB for my Jeep. Batteries pooped out. Not worth getting new ones..
Elinor: wise as to the keys. My IS succumbed and cost me no end of travails. Much better one from David Boger fixed a lot.
ALL; In olden days, just remove the distributor rotor. leaving car that way insured it's safety.
My first T lost it's keyed ignition switch early on. I merely used a high quality toggle. WWII aircraft surplus. Cheap as well. Til, a "pal"
stole it. In class, I heard it navigating the quadrangle. I jumped and ran out there. Punch in nose, retrieved car....
Pal and T mentor Billy lost the key to his neat little 27 Roaster/pickup T. It had a distributor, an after market thing. American Bosch as I recall. So, we hot wired it, permanent. When parking, just nudge the engine til the ammeter showed 0 discharge. Points open, safe. Kill against a curb or choke t out. Remove distributor rotor for safety.
Much later, in 58, I built a T. Three or four similar toggles in a row.
One cranked the engine. The other three had to be set in a set order, up, down, etc, to fire. This version used a Jeep distributor. Remove rotor for safety....
Last night's news had a piece on high auto thefts in this area and the failure of factory alarms and locks. The real crooks get the way in fairly easily. Once you know how to beat one GM lock, all are vulnerable. The guest "expert" had a safe after market one. A bit biased?
Carl
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#111
Sarc,
Were the fuel returns and the extra return valve always in the trunk on your car? My S3 only has the changeover valve in the trunk, the return valves are under the rear wheel wells. Also, I do like the sound of straight pipes on my 6, two of them under the hood should sound great. Took the muffs off shortly after I got it. Hell I couldn't hear it running! May offend purists though.
Were the fuel returns and the extra return valve always in the trunk on your car? My S3 only has the changeover valve in the trunk, the return valves are under the rear wheel wells. Also, I do like the sound of straight pipes on my 6, two of them under the hood should sound great. Took the muffs off shortly after I got it. Hell I couldn't hear it running! May offend purists though.
Yes, this car always had 2x 3 way valves in the trunk. The return valve is 3/8" and is unobtainium, so I bought 2 1/2" feed valves and stepped the return hoses up to fit the valve. From some discussions on this forum, the conclusion was it is either an early S2 FI feature or a coupe feature. I had an S3 and as you said, it has 2x 2 way return valves (and 1x 3 way feed valve). Unfortunately, on the first road test with 2 full tanks of gas, we found the right hand tank overflowing. We have identified the cause as a stuck feed valve. It's stuck in kind of the open position, meaning fuel can go from left tank to right tank. I have some more valves on the way so hopefully that cures the issue.
The rear muffler delete definitely adds sound, but only outside of the car, not inside. "Purists", well they probably don't agree with my stainless steel fuel hoses, or my blue vacuum lines, but there you go !
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Sarc:
Fortunately, any "purists" here seem quite tolerant.
A good thing in my book. However, most of us
don't destroy the car whilst doing mayhem
and calling it "mods".
Just read of a rich guy hiring a custom shop to repower
his classic 36 Cord. A mix of GM Ls power, Porsche
Triptomatic and Cadillac FWD. Sanitary work.
No outward sign of it. But.... yeah, I know, his car, his $'s, etc...
The devices in the rear valences are more like
resonators than mufflers. A PO swapped out the originals
in my car for small "glass packs". Welded in...
My V8 exhaust uses the Jaguar mufflers and a "H" pipe and
is a true "dual" system. It purrs nicely.
I suspect that elimination of the resonators might induce
a drone or back rap. Very un Jaguar like.
Carl
Fortunately, any "purists" here seem quite tolerant.
A good thing in my book. However, most of us
don't destroy the car whilst doing mayhem
and calling it "mods".
Just read of a rich guy hiring a custom shop to repower
his classic 36 Cord. A mix of GM Ls power, Porsche
Triptomatic and Cadillac FWD. Sanitary work.
No outward sign of it. But.... yeah, I know, his car, his $'s, etc...
The devices in the rear valences are more like
resonators than mufflers. A PO swapped out the originals
in my car for small "glass packs". Welded in...
My V8 exhaust uses the Jaguar mufflers and a "H" pipe and
is a true "dual" system. It purrs nicely.
I suspect that elimination of the resonators might induce
a drone or back rap. Very un Jaguar like.
Carl
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ronbros (05-13-2016)
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Sarc:
Fortunately, any "purists" here seem quite tolerant.
A good thing in my book. However, most of us
don't destroy the car whilst doing mayhem
and calling it "mods".
I suspect that elimination of the resonators might induce
a drone or back rap. Very un Jaguar like.
Carl
Fortunately, any "purists" here seem quite tolerant.
A good thing in my book. However, most of us
don't destroy the car whilst doing mayhem
and calling it "mods".
I suspect that elimination of the resonators might induce
a drone or back rap. Very un Jaguar like.
Carl
That back rap is what I was looking for! Sounds like a ser1 xke. Drone not too bad, but mine's a xk 6 pot.
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ronbros (05-13-2016)
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This weekend was all about wood....
The new dash panel was about the first thing I bought after I bought the car. It's been sitting in its box in the garage quietly until we got to the stage where the car is running well enough that I can work on cosmetics.
The new panel came from here Jaguar XJ 6 XJ 6C Series 2 Walnut Burl Dashboard L H D Wood Dash S2 6 177 | eBay
Very nice quality. Well cut. Fitted perfectly. The only thing you need to do is to make new screw holes for the small screws that hold the wood to the metal frame, and also make some new holes in the back of the glovebox door.
I used this video as a step by step guide. It's for a series 3, but was accurate enough for a series 2. One delta that I remember was the fact my speedo is mechanical, vs an electronic version in the series 3. Another was the fact that the temp sensor is in the crash roll on the series 3, and below the pencil tray on the series 2.
I hand painted the silver surrounds on the A/C vents as they were rubbed off and faded.
As suspected, the new, darker wood blends better with the aftermarket wheel I added previously.
I added new floor mats, dark blue with silver piping also. The interior is basically "done" The only things still to do are to fix a small split in a seem on the drivers seat, and replace the carpets at some point, but for now, covered with the mats, its still presentable.
It took me about 10 hours all told, but I think I could do it again in less, now that I have some practice. Hopefully I don't need to re-do it ever for this XJ12C.
The only issue I've had is the speedo drive unit that sits on the right hand side of the transmission tunnel is clicking. I think it's maybe because it's not lined up properly. Hopefully thats an easy fix. All of the gauges (miraculously) still work.
Some pictures "before", "during" and "after" attached for fun
The new dash panel was about the first thing I bought after I bought the car. It's been sitting in its box in the garage quietly until we got to the stage where the car is running well enough that I can work on cosmetics.
The new panel came from here Jaguar XJ 6 XJ 6C Series 2 Walnut Burl Dashboard L H D Wood Dash S2 6 177 | eBay
Very nice quality. Well cut. Fitted perfectly. The only thing you need to do is to make new screw holes for the small screws that hold the wood to the metal frame, and also make some new holes in the back of the glovebox door.
I used this video as a step by step guide. It's for a series 3, but was accurate enough for a series 2. One delta that I remember was the fact my speedo is mechanical, vs an electronic version in the series 3. Another was the fact that the temp sensor is in the crash roll on the series 3, and below the pencil tray on the series 2.
I hand painted the silver surrounds on the A/C vents as they were rubbed off and faded.
As suspected, the new, darker wood blends better with the aftermarket wheel I added previously.
I added new floor mats, dark blue with silver piping also. The interior is basically "done" The only things still to do are to fix a small split in a seem on the drivers seat, and replace the carpets at some point, but for now, covered with the mats, its still presentable.
It took me about 10 hours all told, but I think I could do it again in less, now that I have some practice. Hopefully I don't need to re-do it ever for this XJ12C.
The only issue I've had is the speedo drive unit that sits on the right hand side of the transmission tunnel is clicking. I think it's maybe because it's not lined up properly. Hopefully thats an easy fix. All of the gauges (miraculously) still work.
Some pictures "before", "during" and "after" attached for fun
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Beautiful job! The silver trim on SII gauges and vents really completes the look. That ebay vendor does great work.
I have a mechanical speedo on my car and used some white lithium grease on the inner cable to cure a clicking noise that seemed to be coming from the cable and the drive unit.
I have a mechanical speedo on my car and used some white lithium grease on the inner cable to cure a clicking noise that seemed to be coming from the cable and the drive unit.
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