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Old May 22, 2015 | 05:43 AM
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Hello all;

I know that these key cartridges are NLA and have been for a long time, but I was wondering how difficult it would be to have a copy made in a 3D printer. I know nothing about 3d printers other than the most basic, and I realize that the key cartridge would have to be taken apart since it has internals.

I know I have come accross a couple of topics of people who have made their parts in a 3d printer. Does doing this sound possible?


 
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Old May 22, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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Old May 22, 2015 | 04:49 PM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-XJS-STEERING-COLUMN-WITH-IGNITION-LOCK-AND-KEY-FACELIFT-RHD-/231502059611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item35e699 185b
 
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Old May 22, 2015 | 05:06 PM
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Problem is the technology is not to the point where its as simple as putting the part in the box and pushing the copy button. You'd first need to get a high-resolution 3D scan, then most probably a CAD technician to clean up and "tweak" the file, perhaps a few iterations before you had a satisfactory copy. The cheapest 3d printers use a fused deposition process, basically melting a plastic wire, which results in a bit of a rough surface that then has to be tumbled and/or hand-finished which also adds to the final cost. (and may not be the right material for every application). It can be done, but still kind of labor intensive for one part and thus can get expensive to pay someone to do it for you. Perhaps someone will have a contact for you to get an estimate.

What I expect to see in the near future however is that the all-in-1 machines like the Da Vinci that both scan and print are coming down in price now to the point that hobbiests who restore their own cars will start buying them (not just Jay Leno), learning the software, developing parts on their own and then sharing them via sites like Shapeways. I've been thinking along these lines to become an early adopter myself but like the auto industry in the early 1900s, there's a bazillion manufacturers, models and technologies right now and its hard to figure which one is going to be around for a while to support their product. I expect also that the same business model for paper printers will be prevail, sell the printers themselves real cheap and then rape you for the price of proprietary refill cartridges.
 
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Old May 23, 2015 | 08:43 AM
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Thanks everyone for your replies.

I guess my only alternative is to wait for a NOS one to pop up. Buying the used part on eBay for 150.00 dollars for just the cartridge is too much.

I really thought the 3d copy would work...
 
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How about the cigarette lighter bezel?
 
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Old May 26, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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Thanks. That one looks to be in somewhat decent shape
 
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Old May 31, 2015 | 01:20 PM
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How about the cigarette lighter bezel?



NEW Cigar Lighter Bezel for 1988-96 RIGHT HAND DRIVE Jaguar XJS - FREE DELIVERY! | eBay
 
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 06:02 AM
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This would be great if I had a right hand drive XJS
 
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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Wow, our local library is getting 3D printer/s. A sorta of a trace mill. Or responsive to a program. Ie, CNC.


Multiple X,Y and Z to cut in layers!!!


But, in what material? Plastic, alloy or???


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I really appreciate you posting this. I had kinda given up. Seems pricey, but you know how we Jag nuts are. Its on its way!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 05:58 AM
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Well I got a used cartridge and took it apart:






















I am still hoping there may be an opportunity to 3d scan this. I have an engineer who is also Master CAD tech who can do that part for free. Just need to find somewhere to "3D" scan and then actually 3d print here in Houston
 
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JAGUAR GENUINE KEY LIGHT CARTRIDGE TO SUIT 4.0 XJ40 XJS BCC9959 | eBay
 
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Thanks for that. I got did end up buying it for 40 dollars, brand new and bagged. I paid more for the used one I got earlier.
 
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