Brakes and Vacuum
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Brakes and Vacuum
Recently, the XJS sometimes stalls, but only when in reverse. Yesterday, I took it to get a smog check, and it stalled on the technician as he was reversing onto the rolling road.
He said, "you might have a vacuum leak which is causing the stall in reverse and the brake pedal seems like it might have weak vacuum."
Does anyone have any suggestions or tips about how I would go about looking for vacuum leak?
Never done it before, so all advise is most welcome and appreciated.
He said, "you might have a vacuum leak which is causing the stall in reverse and the brake pedal seems like it might have weak vacuum."
Does anyone have any suggestions or tips about how I would go about looking for vacuum leak?
Never done it before, so all advise is most welcome and appreciated.
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Mac Allan (10-29-2016)
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Thanks, that is part of why I posted the thread, hoping for enlightenment or clarification.
I had thought the Tevis ABS system was purely power assisted by the ABS pump/bulb pressure system. However, in looking at the parts diagrams for the brakes, it looks like it might *also* have vacuum assist.
Clearly not an expert on this, so I appreciate any guidance.
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Thanks, that is part of why I posted the thread, hoping for enlightenment or clarification.
I had thought the Tevis ABS system was purely power assisted by the ABS pump/bulb pressure system. However, in looking at the parts diagrams for the brakes, it looks like it might *also* have vacuum assist.
Clearly not an expert on this, so I appreciate any guidance.
I had thought the Tevis ABS system was purely power assisted by the ABS pump/bulb pressure system. However, in looking at the parts diagrams for the brakes, it looks like it might *also* have vacuum assist.
Clearly not an expert on this, so I appreciate any guidance.
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Mac Allan,
The Teves Mk II uses an electric pump to provide powered assistance to the brake circuits.
People sometimes use conflicting phrases to describe vacuum assistance. A traditional vacuum servo will provide assistance to the brakes thus making the pedal feel easier to push. So a lack of vacuum makes it harder to push the pedal to achieve the same retardation. When your mechanic described "a lack of vacuum" did he really mean that? in other words was he describing the pedal as having a hard feel, or did he mean exactly the opposite ie a soft pedal, which might indicate air somewhere in the system?
Cheers
Paul
The Teves Mk II uses an electric pump to provide powered assistance to the brake circuits.
People sometimes use conflicting phrases to describe vacuum assistance. A traditional vacuum servo will provide assistance to the brakes thus making the pedal feel easier to push. So a lack of vacuum makes it harder to push the pedal to achieve the same retardation. When your mechanic described "a lack of vacuum" did he really mean that? in other words was he describing the pedal as having a hard feel, or did he mean exactly the opposite ie a soft pedal, which might indicate air somewhere in the system?
Cheers
Paul
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Since I replaced the front pads, the brakes just haven't felt quite right, so when the smog tech mentioned a vacuum leak, I had a brief "Eureka" moment, until I remembered or thought I remembered how the system worked.
Here is my previous thread from several months ago:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estion-161610/
I've bleed the brakes now several times, and had renewed the fluid in the last 12 months. If I only drive the XJS, I get used to it, but if I go from one of the other cars I notice it.
If I were to describe the problem, the pedal has to travel too far before the brakes start to engage. However, it doesn't feel like a soft pedal (air) and pumping the pedal doesn't change the feel.
I'm stumped.
Here is my previous thread from several months ago:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estion-161610/
I've bleed the brakes now several times, and had renewed the fluid in the last 12 months. If I only drive the XJS, I get used to it, but if I go from one of the other cars I notice it.
If I were to describe the problem, the pedal has to travel too far before the brakes start to engage. However, it doesn't feel like a soft pedal (air) and pumping the pedal doesn't change the feel.
I'm stumped.
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What condition is the brake pressure bubble? Is your ABS pump working all the time? Turn the ignition to ON but don't start the car. You shouöd hear a pump running (opposite side of the car). It should switxh off after a few seconds. If it doesn't switch off, the pressure bubble has shot. If it turns off, press the brake pedal a few times. Again, engine left off! If I remember correctly, something like 7 or 8 presses on the brake pedal should switch it on. If it turns on earlier, then the bubble is shot or is dieing...
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What condition is the brake pressure bubble? Is your ABS pump working all the time? Turn the ignition to ON but don't start the car. You shouöd hear a pump running (opposite side of the car). It should switxh off after a few seconds. If it doesn't switch off, the pressure bubble has shot. If it turns off, press the brake pedal a few times. Again, engine left off! If I remember correctly, something like 7 or 8 presses on the brake pedal should switch it on. If it turns on earlier, then the bubble is shot or is dieing...
With car off, I pumped the brakes 10 times to relieve pressure. After start, it took 14 seconds for the Anti-Lock and Brake warning lights to go out. After four strokes of the brake pedal, the Brake warning light illuminates.
It looks like the bulb is on it's way out.
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