Jaguar Shooting Brake value? opinions needed
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Jaguar Shooting Brake value? opinions needed
I imagine if you're reading this then you're familiar with my Shooting Brake build. At some point soon i'm going to change insurance policy to an agreed upon value and it got me thinking-what would that be? Related to this, if I sold this car, what do you think a reasonable price would be?
1989 XJS, 67k original miles, essentially restored:
-New suspension front and rear, springs and shocks
-New brakes and lines front and rear
-New steering rack, tie rods and tires
-Engine oil seals resealed (though it still leaks kinda everywhere-lol)
-New engine wiring harness
-Rebuilt fuel injectors, new fuel line hoses, new injector wiring
-New exhaust
-New paint and all exterior seals
-Interior fitted with dynamat, new jute carpet backing, new carpet
-No rust, undercarriage treated and sealed
-thousand other little things forgotten
likely to remain unfixed flaws, no low fuel light, no spare tire
also, bigger market in the states or UK/Europe?
Gimme your thoughts!
1989 XJS, 67k original miles, essentially restored:
-New suspension front and rear, springs and shocks
-New brakes and lines front and rear
-New steering rack, tie rods and tires
-Engine oil seals resealed (though it still leaks kinda everywhere-lol)
-New engine wiring harness
-Rebuilt fuel injectors, new fuel line hoses, new injector wiring
-New exhaust
-New paint and all exterior seals
-Interior fitted with dynamat, new jute carpet backing, new carpet
-No rust, undercarriage treated and sealed
-thousand other little things forgotten
likely to remain unfixed flaws, no low fuel light, no spare tire
also, bigger market in the states or UK/Europe?
Gimme your thoughts!
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well seein as i own a modified Jaguar XJS roadster , going by what has been offered to me best so far $4500. USD. and i will probably own it forever,judging by that number!
and mine has a newly rebuilt engine and transmission, car has only 23K miles on it.
expensive wheels and tires ,on and on -on! also i have a 2hr video of the complete restore on a rotessorie roll over stand, showing that aint no BS about whats been done!
for some unusual reason,that has been gone over and over , old jags are just simply old jags, no matter how much time and money has been put into them!
not much value, NOW IF LUCKY(VERY LUCKY), some one just may come along and fall in love with the car and it sells for what you are willing to take for it!
and mine has a newly rebuilt engine and transmission, car has only 23K miles on it.
expensive wheels and tires ,on and on -on! also i have a 2hr video of the complete restore on a rotessorie roll over stand, showing that aint no BS about whats been done!
for some unusual reason,that has been gone over and over , old jags are just simply old jags, no matter how much time and money has been put into them!
not much value, NOW IF LUCKY(VERY LUCKY), some one just may come along and fall in love with the car and it sells for what you are willing to take for it!
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well seein as i own a modified Jaguar XJS roadster , going by what has been offered to me best so far $4500. USD. and i will probably own it forever,judging by that number!
and mine has a newly rebuilt engine and transmission, car has only 23K miles on it.
expensive wheels and tires ,on and on -on! also i have a 2hr video of the complete restore on a rotessorie roll over stand, showing that aint no BS about whats been done!
for some unusual reason,that has been gone over and over , old jags are just simply old jags, no matter how much time and money has been put into them!
not much value, NOW IF LUCKY(VERY LUCKY), some one just may come along and fall in love with the car and it sells for what you are willing to take for it!
and mine has a newly rebuilt engine and transmission, car has only 23K miles on it.
expensive wheels and tires ,on and on -on! also i have a 2hr video of the complete restore on a rotessorie roll over stand, showing that aint no BS about whats been done!
for some unusual reason,that has been gone over and over , old jags are just simply old jags, no matter how much time and money has been put into them!
not much value, NOW IF LUCKY(VERY LUCKY), some one just may come along and fall in love with the car and it sells for what you are willing to take for it!
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Andy,
My suggestion is to find a trusted "Authority" in your area. That could be a shop which specializes in restoring, or, selling custom and classic cars. In Atlanta, I know there must be many. However, the first place I would start, if I were fortunate enough to live in the Atlanta area, would be Coventry West. I would also go a step further, and speak directly with Dick Maury there. He has held officer positions in JCNA at a national level, and has had one of the finest E-types to be found on this side of the pond. He knows value, and has a reputation insurance companies can put stock in. I don't know if he would consider appaising your car, but, he would be my 1st choice. Worst case scenario, he can point you to the right person in your area.
My suggestion is to find a trusted "Authority" in your area. That could be a shop which specializes in restoring, or, selling custom and classic cars. In Atlanta, I know there must be many. However, the first place I would start, if I were fortunate enough to live in the Atlanta area, would be Coventry West. I would also go a step further, and speak directly with Dick Maury there. He has held officer positions in JCNA at a national level, and has had one of the finest E-types to be found on this side of the pond. He knows value, and has a reputation insurance companies can put stock in. I don't know if he would consider appaising your car, but, he would be my 1st choice. Worst case scenario, he can point you to the right person in your area.
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Andy,
Unfortunately for you, I think that such a work (even if of high quality) is not valued if not carried out by a recognised Jaguar specialised "tuner" with a name, such as Lynx, Lister, Eagle, etc..
In general high values go only to "works' originality" and scarcity of models.
If performed by a sole enthusiast by modifying an existing model, it is considered as loss of originality and value.
Someone really interested by an XJS Estate probably will better invest in a true and exclusive Eventer (values from 50 to 100k)
Unfortunately for you, I think that such a work (even if of high quality) is not valued if not carried out by a recognised Jaguar specialised "tuner" with a name, such as Lynx, Lister, Eagle, etc..
In general high values go only to "works' originality" and scarcity of models.
If performed by a sole enthusiast by modifying an existing model, it is considered as loss of originality and value.
Someone really interested by an XJS Estate probably will better invest in a true and exclusive Eventer (values from 50 to 100k)
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Contact JC Taylor here in the states for such a car. I have a highly modified Toyota Supra on their modified vehicle policy. Basically gave them an inventory of everything done and insured for cost to reproduce.
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Andy,
Unfortunately for you, I think that such a work (even if of high quality) is not valued if not carried out by a recognised Jaguar specialised "tuner" with a name, such as Lynx, Lister, Eagle, etc..
In general high values go only to "works' originality" and scarcity of models.
If performed by a sole enthusiast by modifying an existing model, it is considered as loss of originality and value.
Someone really interested by an XJS Estate probably will better invest in a true and exclusive Eventer (values from 50 to 100k)
Unfortunately for you, I think that such a work (even if of high quality) is not valued if not carried out by a recognised Jaguar specialised "tuner" with a name, such as Lynx, Lister, Eagle, etc..
In general high values go only to "works' originality" and scarcity of models.
If performed by a sole enthusiast by modifying an existing model, it is considered as loss of originality and value.
Someone really interested by an XJS Estate probably will better invest in a true and exclusive Eventer (values from 50 to 100k)
paydase; if your observation is realistic , then maybe my 1978 RHD XJS that was modified by AMT,(Aston Martin Tickford UK), from a coupe to a cabriolet, may have some value.
around 1980-1982, for prototype use, of course i dont know if Aston Martin is a recognised Jag modifier, back in those years?
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Toyota Supra 93-98 have become halo cars because of the movie "Fast and Furious".
there prices went up 100% in 1 year, and now up 300%+ since the movie!
(shows what advertising can do,with a kool story).
not withstanding an encredible engine and drive train.(who ever thought 1000+hp from 3L straight 6 engine (WTF).
i dont think Toyota knew what they were building, back then,it took 10yrs to be known to the rice rocket crowd, and for them to make the money to buy!
and most here never caught up anyway!
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I guess my question has two parts: value for an agreed upon value for insurance and then what I think it will sell for. For insurance I'm thinking $25k and what I'll get when I sell it? Who knows, but I'm going to get an appraisal and then also have an independent inspection done illuminating any flaws.
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I guess my question has two parts: value for an agreed upon value for insurance and then what I think it will sell for. For insurance I'm thinking $25k and what I'll get when I sell it? Who knows, but I'm going to get an appraisal and then also have an independent inspection done illuminating any flaws.
Would you buy that Car, or go and look for a Lynx Eventer?
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after rereading these posts, there seems to be a big difference between Europe/UK, and the USA, about cars and there perceived values!
a short time back i was at a car show in Florida US, and there was a beautiful 1952 Rolls royce, happens this much older lady,somewhat sofisticated, asked me a question,
she remarked "how can an old car be worth more money than a new one"
she stopped me cold , i said mam, that is far to logical to answer, most car people are crazy it seems, and rarely make any sense!
which begs the question of why USA has different ideas and values about automobiles and many other things,for that matter.
for instance a very well off guy in Florida , has a car collection, he has a 1965 Ferrari(dont know model), and a new 2015 Hyundia Sonata.
he somtimes drives the Ferrari to business office , but most time drives the Sonata, asked him what is the better car for daily driving, he said you gotta be kidding ,
the Sonata is WAYYY better car to drive, comfortable, quiet, brakes very good , better visability,nice sound system,most important A/C , performance is adequete for daily commute!
i asked what dont you like about DRIVING the Ferrari,his words, noisey, rides like a buckboard, uncomfortable position seat, brakes barely stop when cold, NO A/C, heat barely works.
and forget costs when it needs service work, and for some odd reason, he worries that it will break down at the wrong time/wrong place! thank god for cell I/phones.
so i ask, what is most logical here?
for instance a properly modified vehicle is far better as a driveable and unique car and stands out from the crowd of ordinary everyday Jaguars.
i know some of you have been to a show where a row of 8/10 almost perfect XJS , all the same,except colors, , and onlookers come to mine, get excited with many questions about the modifications!
especially young people and car modifier guys!
at one show an XKE roadster, a mid aged guy and 5 year old son were looking at it, son says daddy that car looks like a big BUG! from the mouths of babes.
a short time back i was at a car show in Florida US, and there was a beautiful 1952 Rolls royce, happens this much older lady,somewhat sofisticated, asked me a question,
she remarked "how can an old car be worth more money than a new one"
she stopped me cold , i said mam, that is far to logical to answer, most car people are crazy it seems, and rarely make any sense!
which begs the question of why USA has different ideas and values about automobiles and many other things,for that matter.
for instance a very well off guy in Florida , has a car collection, he has a 1965 Ferrari(dont know model), and a new 2015 Hyundia Sonata.
he somtimes drives the Ferrari to business office , but most time drives the Sonata, asked him what is the better car for daily driving, he said you gotta be kidding ,
the Sonata is WAYYY better car to drive, comfortable, quiet, brakes very good , better visability,nice sound system,most important A/C , performance is adequete for daily commute!
i asked what dont you like about DRIVING the Ferrari,his words, noisey, rides like a buckboard, uncomfortable position seat, brakes barely stop when cold, NO A/C, heat barely works.
and forget costs when it needs service work, and for some odd reason, he worries that it will break down at the wrong time/wrong place! thank god for cell I/phones.
so i ask, what is most logical here?
for instance a properly modified vehicle is far better as a driveable and unique car and stands out from the crowd of ordinary everyday Jaguars.
i know some of you have been to a show where a row of 8/10 almost perfect XJS , all the same,except colors, , and onlookers come to mine, get excited with many questions about the modifications!
especially young people and car modifier guys!
at one show an XKE roadster, a mid aged guy and 5 year old son were looking at it, son says daddy that car looks like a big BUG! from the mouths of babes.
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