New Stereo Earth Attachment Location
#21
Hi Someday
I don't know how sophisticated your Kenwood Model is but most fairly modern units allow you to adjust the Front and Rear Speakers and also the Balance.
From the Stereo Interface itself, as my 'el cheapo' one does.
Its also got a great Radio but I never listen to it, I prefer my MP3's
Although its also got Bluetooth, I put all my Tracks on an SD Card which Slots into the Stereo and just leave it in there all the time.
I don't know how sophisticated your Kenwood Model is but most fairly modern units allow you to adjust the Front and Rear Speakers and also the Balance.
From the Stereo Interface itself, as my 'el cheapo' one does.
Its also got a great Radio but I never listen to it, I prefer my MP3's
Although its also got Bluetooth, I put all my Tracks on an SD Card which Slots into the Stereo and just leave it in there all the time.
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#23
Yep, the fader control's been fiddled with, and I could fade out the rear speakers by turning it to the front (thereby getting silence). The sound isn't too bad from just the rears, but I would of course like it from the front as well. Tomorrow I'll pull the stereo again, make sure the harness wires actually go from harness to harness like they should, and remove the antenna plug and see if that makes a difference.
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It was quite an operation getting this far. After creating the brackets, I then had to remove the rivet shafts. Punching them out wasn't really working, but drilling them out worked very easily - often just a few seconds and it would shoot out the back, to be lost somewhere in the rat's nest down there. Then I had to mount the plate. My 3 mm screws were too small, and my 4 mm screws were too big. So I just drilled out the mounting holes to 4 mm (going to 3.5 first was easier), and they went in perfectly.
Hooked up the earth as shown:
I decided to hook it to the BES as that gave me the most operating room.
Plugged in the harnesses, and mounted the stereo, then tested it. Huh. No front sound. Rather tired by now, I just replaced the aircon controls and went for a short drive, my first to the sound of music.
I can change the illumination colours - right now it cycles the spectrum. And this reminds me that I need to reset the trip computer clock....
Anyway, once the front speakers and antenna issue are sorted, I'll be able to relax and enjoy some fine music....
Hooked up the earth as shown:
I decided to hook it to the BES as that gave me the most operating room.
Plugged in the harnesses, and mounted the stereo, then tested it. Huh. No front sound. Rather tired by now, I just replaced the aircon controls and went for a short drive, my first to the sound of music.
I can change the illumination colours - right now it cycles the spectrum. And this reminds me that I need to reset the trip computer clock....
Anyway, once the front speakers and antenna issue are sorted, I'll be able to relax and enjoy some fine music....
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Some Day, Some Day (04-15-2017)
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It has to be a loose connection, or something is in the wrong place in the multiple adapters you have. If need be, the pins can be taken out of the plastic connectors and rearranged, it usually takes a fine pick to get in and depress the tang to release the metal part.
On the original connector I think the front speakers should be a black/white and black wire (pins # 1&2) for the left and black/white (pin 9) and black (pin7) for the right. That's on the 1994 diagram, I don't have a 1992 but it should be the same.
The numbers on the original connector are very small, but they should be there. Maybe try tracing them back to your new radio and see if they are connected correctly?
The antenna is a yellow/green wire, pin#4.
On the original connector I think the front speakers should be a black/white and black wire (pins # 1&2) for the left and black/white (pin 9) and black (pin7) for the right. That's on the 1994 diagram, I don't have a 1992 but it should be the same.
The numbers on the original connector are very small, but they should be there. Maybe try tracing them back to your new radio and see if they are connected correctly?
The antenna is a yellow/green wire, pin#4.
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#28
You are bang on, Jagboi. I was going to hook up the old one this morning just to make sure the front speakers were working, and checked the wiring for the new one first, tracing the grey and white front speaker wires. And whaddaya know - they went in one part of the Jag-to-ISO connector, and failed to come out the other....
Here's the OEM harness from the car...
And here's the new Jaguar-to-ISO harness that's been miswired....
Here's the OEM harness from the car...
And here's the new Jaguar-to-ISO harness that's been miswired....
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Hmm. I cannot figure out how to remove the wires from the new connector. There appears to be a plastic tang that needs depressing, but it barely moves when tested on the empty slot, and the only thing I've managed to do is bend my needle-nose tweezer tip. I wonder if the Japan-market radios had different wiring? If so, there's not much point in complaining to the seller.
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Looking at the pictures you will need to swap the Black/White wire and black wires or the front speakers will be out of phase with the rears.
In your first pic (OEM Harness) the trace wires are on the out side of the connector and in the 2nd pic (Jag to ISO) the trace wires are on the same side.
In your first pic (OEM Harness) the trace wires are on the out side of the connector and in the 2nd pic (Jag to ISO) the trace wires are on the same side.
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#32
Problem fixed! Using the pointy end of a safety pin I was able, with patience and care, to ease out the wires - they just needed to be coaxed past the clippy bit, and then they came out easily. I then wired them into the connector the correct way, assuming that the striped new wire (negative. Or was it positive?) should connect with the striped old wire, and then assembled the stereo.
And we have sound from the front speakers!
(To be honest, the sound is still better from the back speakers - from the front alone it's a little tinny....)
And we have sound from the front speakers!
(To be honest, the sound is still better from the back speakers - from the front alone it's a little tinny....)
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#35
Black is always ground or negative, the black with the white tracer will be positive. There is a British Standard on colour codes, so you usually can tell a wires function just by what colour it is.
Seems appropriate to be playing "spring" after the blossom photo series!
Seems appropriate to be playing "spring" after the blossom photo series!
Last edited by Jagboi64; 04-16-2017 at 11:34 AM.
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#36
Just so long as joined striped to striped was the right choice
That explains all the black wires in the standard Jaguar wiring then, I guess.
And yes, I thought seasonally appropriate music would be best - actually the disc I used to first check was Vaughan-William's Sinfonia antartica, which is a couple of months too late....
That explains all the black wires in the standard Jaguar wiring then, I guess.
And yes, I thought seasonally appropriate music would be best - actually the disc I used to first check was Vaughan-William's Sinfonia antartica, which is a couple of months too late....
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#37
In car speaker wiring the wire with the trace is NEGATIVE. This can get confusing because BLACK is standard for ground/negative.
Although as long as you get all the speakers wired the same it will work. The first thing I would check is the phasing of the front speakers, You can do this with a 1.5volt battery put the battery across the speaker wires with the trace on negative and both cones should move out.
Although as long as you get all the speakers wired the same it will work. The first thing I would check is the phasing of the front speakers, You can do this with a 1.5volt battery put the battery across the speaker wires with the trace on negative and both cones should move out.
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#38
I looked at How to Check if your Speakers are Wired Correctly | Richard Farrar and the phasing example they use doesn't sound completely dissimilar to what my speakers sound like. I'll do some more front-only listening and see. Though it's not so much sounding like that as sounding sort of tinny and weak.
At any rate, so long as joining striped with striped and solid with solid was correct, then I did get that part right at least.
At any rate, so long as joining striped with striped and solid with solid was correct, then I did get that part right at least.
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