2013 XK Bluetooth pairing issue
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No it's in the trunk right of the battery. There are three plug ins to the module. The two on the right are rectangular plug in jacks that are quite large. The third (leftmost) is a round "pin" type jack that fits in a round receptacle. The jack itself has a plastic wrap that fell apart in my hands and therefore is loose. Make sure to be careful pulling it out for the first time. and make sure it's seated all the way in.
#22
Wasn't there somebody on the forum trying to "repair" our modules? I think the idea was to open up existing ones and try and make corrections to whatever failed chip/part they could find. The same person was also referencing updated BT modules where the antenna was internal to the module and thus didnt need to hook up to our external antennas. That would be super interesting if the internal antenna could keep a strong signal.
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Wasn't there somebody on the forum trying to "repair" our modules? I think the idea was to open up existing ones and try and make corrections to whatever failed chip/part they could find. The same person was also referencing updated BT modules where the antenna was internal to the module and thus didnt need to hook up to our external antennas. That would be super interesting if the internal antenna could keep a strong signal.
@RWS1965 do you still have your 07 and is it an X150? ( I dunno if Canadian model years are the same as US) Consider swapping the BT modules if you do and try it out. If it works, you've identified the problem as the BT module.
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BTM from JLR, Volvo and Aston-Martin with internal antenna work. Look for the same FCC ID.
Missing antenna may set DTC.
Bluetooth Module - apparently dead (RESOLVED) - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum
Let us know how it goes.
Bill
Missing antenna may set DTC.
Bluetooth Module - apparently dead (RESOLVED) - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum
Let us know how it goes.
Bill
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Yes that was Cambo and he doesn't do it anymore. I think some were "lost" in transport and he took a hit on them? At any rate, he stopped a couple years ago.
@RWS1965 do you still have your 07 and is it an X150? ( I dunno if Canadian model years are the same as US) Consider swapping the BT modules if you do and try it out. If it works, you've identified the problem as the BT module.
@RWS1965 do you still have your 07 and is it an X150? ( I dunno if Canadian model years are the same as US) Consider swapping the BT modules if you do and try it out. If it works, you've identified the problem as the BT module.
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There are pinpoint tests for this situation in the Workshop Manual.
Nevertheless, Bluetooth pairing can be initiated by either the client or the server but, not both simultaneously.
I suspect the simplest/easiest path to follow would be to initiate the pairing process from the “other” device.
Cheers.
Nevertheless, Bluetooth pairing can be initiated by either the client or the server but, not both simultaneously.
I suspect the simplest/easiest path to follow would be to initiate the pairing process from the “other” device.
Cheers.
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Thanks to all that tried to help me. For new people be as specific as you can about your problem to identify your issue. TBERG suggestion sounded like a winner, tried it and no go. The I pulled the plug from the module again and sprayed both ends with electrical clesaner and poof, I can now connect. Im very pleased and hope this post helps others to fix a simple problem that can escalete. Thanks again to the Forum!!!!
#30
Just an update on this issue. As I said i sprayed the connectors with component cleaner in the modul and the phone worked. 2 weeks later it stopped and couldnt get it to work and look to pair. Again the issue is it wont even pair and all the other typical causes have been exhausted. Even after trying a few sprays no go. Recently hadnt driven the car for a while so batrery was dead, trickle charged and bluetooth worked again, but only for a few days. Maybe someone who is knowledgable with car electronis will have an idea, I know Im not alone with this. And the battery is new and shows 13 amps.
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@RWS1965 Our BTMs are pretty hardy but the early software was not quite perfect. A software update may resolve your connection issue.
Unless your module was exposed to unusual conditions of water or extreme dust, cleaning the contacts actually provides a "power-off reset".
Did you clear all paired phones and start fresh?
Until your software update, try this: Delete all archived phone connections then disconnect power (the levered connector). Leave it off 30 min or so.
No need to otherwise remove or disconnect.
Please let us know how it goes.
@Speedmaster Yes, I'm still interested in diagnosing truely "dead" modules. Maybe a nice indoor/cold weather project?
Bill
Unless your module was exposed to unusual conditions of water or extreme dust, cleaning the contacts actually provides a "power-off reset".
Did you clear all paired phones and start fresh?
Until your software update, try this: Delete all archived phone connections then disconnect power (the levered connector). Leave it off 30 min or so.
No need to otherwise remove or disconnect.
Please let us know how it goes.
@Speedmaster Yes, I'm still interested in diagnosing truely "dead" modules. Maybe a nice indoor/cold weather project?
Bill
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yes… the obvious,
1.Do you have the bluetooth settings page open on your device and does it show it is in pairing mode.
2. On the phone, Do not go into the menu to ‘search for devices’ if you initiate the pairing from the car.
Of course, this all depends on the good operation of the BTM in the car. Mine is an 07 and it works fine…. I have 3 devices paired to it.. mine and my children’s phones. No issues.
1.Do you have the bluetooth settings page open on your device and does it show it is in pairing mode.
2. On the phone, Do not go into the menu to ‘search for devices’ if you initiate the pairing from the car.
Of course, this all depends on the good operation of the BTM in the car. Mine is an 07 and it works fine…. I have 3 devices paired to it.. mine and my children’s phones. No issues.
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Over the winter I got a new iPhone (14 Pro), so was a bit concerned (recalling problems others have had) about pairing to my 2007 XK when taking it out of winter storage.
So I finally got a chance to try it today, and yea, it worked. Didn’t have to remove any old pairings. It took a long time ‘searching’, but it eventually found it. History and contacts transferred successfully (don’t think my contacts ever transferred with my old iPhones).
So I finally got a chance to try it today, and yea, it worked. Didn’t have to remove any old pairings. It took a long time ‘searching’, but it eventually found it. History and contacts transferred successfully (don’t think my contacts ever transferred with my old iPhones).
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Over the winter I got a new iPhone (14 Pro), so was a bit concerned (recalling problems others have had) about pairing to my 2007 XK when taking it out of winter storage.
So I finally got a chance to try it today, and yea, it worked. Didn’t have to remove any old pairings. It took a long time ‘searching’, but it eventually found it. History and contacts transferred successfully (don’t think my contacts ever transferred with my old iPhones).
So I finally got a chance to try it today, and yea, it worked. Didn’t have to remove any old pairings. It took a long time ‘searching’, but it eventually found it. History and contacts transferred successfully (don’t think my contacts ever transferred with my old iPhones).
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When you postmake sure you list all the troubeshooting you have done otherwise you will get the basic replys. My car simply wont search. It actually has 2 times over the last year but then loses the phone, then when trying to pair the system wont even search. Nobody has had a solution yet so I just use headphones lol
Does your phone link dependably with other vehicles?
Do other phones link well with your car/BTM?
The BTM antenna is located behind the rear seat center bolster.
Does the location of the phone make a difference?
However, if the BTM software has not been updated, that would be your best bet for a fix.
Let us know how it goes.
Best regards,
Bill
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Hey Bill, you sent this awesome flow chart that I appreciate very much. I beleive you said to do a software update, I cant find anything in forums on how I can do that, physically. Just to narrow the problem, I plugge din my 07 XK module into my 13 XK and it still didnt pair,or in my case just wont search. Do you have a page that simplifies the software update? Thanks!! Russ
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Hello Russ,
Software updates are available for all modules via JLR Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD).
There are generally two options: 1) Reprogramming existing modules 2) Programming new modules.
Programming new modules is usually readily accessed via "Service Functions" while reprogramming existing modules are hidden and are usually accessed via "Diagnostics"
The difference between programming new and existing has to do with the secondary boot loading process. Existing, some of that is present.
SDD off-line through V150 includes a hidden archive of all software for all vehicles through date of issue, so the latest version, the better.
Of course, if you are using a legitimate, on-line version of SDD, you will download the absolute latest.
V150 is good through about 2016 models, so it should be fine for our purpose.
Software updates are available for all modules via JLR Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD).
There are generally two options: 1) Reprogramming existing modules 2) Programming new modules.
Programming new modules is usually readily accessed via "Service Functions" while reprogramming existing modules are hidden and are usually accessed via "Diagnostics"
The difference between programming new and existing has to do with the secondary boot loading process. Existing, some of that is present.
SDD off-line through V150 includes a hidden archive of all software for all vehicles through date of issue, so the latest version, the better.
Of course, if you are using a legitimate, on-line version of SDD, you will download the absolute latest.
V150 is good through about 2016 models, so it should be fine for our purpose.
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