XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

Brake dust solution.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 07:30 AM
  #1  
chazaroo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 121
From: Vero Beach, FL
Default Brake dust solution.

There have been plenty of posts about the excessive brake dust from OEM pads. And perhaps my solution has been posted previously but here's something I just tested. After washing the XK and the S-Type and spending a lot of time on the wheels, which were black with brake dust, I tried a can of Armorall Wheel Protectant. I followed the directions and made sure the wheels were completely dry before spraying on the Armorall. I then let the cars sit for a couple hours. The next day I had to drive about 80 miles and the day after, a round trip from east coast to west coast of Florida, another 370 miles. When I got home, the wheels still looked great. To be safe, I rinsed them off with the hose but very little dust appeared to be in the runoff. I think the stuff works.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 07:49 AM
  #2  
jagxk2008's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,037
Likes: 85
From: Espana
Default

I tried it myself and have black spot coming out on the wheel due to the product??...i didn't continue then.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 10:15 AM
  #3  
tberg's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,008
Likes: 2,622
From: Los Angeles
Default

Is the idea of the protectorant that it will provide a more slippery surface to which the dust doesn't stick, because it obviously does not affect the amount of brake dust coming off of the pads. I have tried waxing my wheels to make them slicker, but it doesn't seem to affect the excessive amount of dust that comes off of the OEM pads. I just find that if I want clean looking wheels, I have to get out and wipe them every morning. P.I.T.A.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 11:02 AM
  #4  
Vector's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,689
Likes: 452
From: Central Florida
Default

Originally Posted by chazaroo
T I tried a can of Armorall Wheel Protectant.
I tried that Armorall product on my wheels. It left white streaks, although I really tried to apply it as light as possible. It only lasts a little while and I still had to scrub the wheels to get them clean of brake dust.

I use other Armorall products but I think the folks at Armorall really missed the mark on this product. Total wast of time and money, IMHO.

For $7 per can (and it takes almost a whole can to do all four wheels) I decided to invest in some Akebono ceramic pads instead.
Vector
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 06:55 PM
  #5  
DGL's Avatar
DGL
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 978
From: Canada
Default

This is a not an issue with me. I haven't experience excessive dust. I get a bit on the inner rim of the wheels which I remove with a cleaning rod that looks like a large pipe cleaner.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 10:32 PM
  #6  
tnt10's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 132
Likes: 9
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by Vector
I tried that Armorall product on my wheels. It left white streaks, although I really tried to apply it as light as possible. It only lasts a little while and I still had to scrub the wheels to get them clean of brake dust.

I use other Armorall products but I think the folks at Armorall really missed the mark on this product. Total wast of time and money, IMHO.

For $7 per can (and it takes almost a whole can to do all four wheels) I decided to invest in some Akebono ceramic pads instead.
Vector
I don't want to hijack this thread, but wasn't there discussion on another thread about these causung some damage (or the like) to the rotors??

tnt
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 05:26 AM
  #7  
Vector's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,689
Likes: 452
From: Central Florida
Default

Originally Posted by tnt10
I don't want to hijack this thread, but wasn't there discussion on another thread about these causung some damage (or the like) to the rotors??
tnt
Ceramic pads damaging the rotors? Never heard that one.

Maybe if you had carbon fiber rotors or something exotic like that, but I don't think you are going to be choosing your own pads on your Enzo.

Ceramic pads have been around for a long time for street and track use and Akebono Euro ceramics have been used by a lot of members with good results.
Vector
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 07:38 AM
  #8  
mosesbotbol's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 6,286
Likes: 1,208
From: Boston, USA
Default

Originally Posted by Vector
Ceramic pads damaging the rotors? Never heard that one.

Ceramic pads have been around for a long time for street and track use and Akebono Euro ceramics have been used by a lot of members with good results.
Vector
Agree ^^
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 08:33 AM
  #9  
jagxk2008's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,037
Likes: 85
From: Espana
Default

Originally Posted by Vector
Ceramic pads damaging the rotors? Never heard that one.

Maybe if you had carbon fiber rotors or something exotic like that, but I don't think you are going to be choosing your own pads on your Enzo.

Ceramic pads have been around for a long time for street and track use and Akebono Euro ceramics have been used by a lot of members with good results.
Vector
How will you rate braking compare to the original pads?
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 08:54 AM
  #10  
mosesbotbol's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 6,286
Likes: 1,208
From: Boston, USA
Default

Originally Posted by jagxk2008
How will you rate braking compare to the original pads?
Decent. Not as much initial bite, but after that very similar. No dust! Had the Akebono's on my VDP and would like to get on XK
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 10:08 AM
  #11  
user 2029223's Avatar
Banned
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,922
Likes: 258
Default

Before I switched to ceramic pads (with good all around results) I used wheel protectant products with excellent results. Eagle One makes a good product (Keep clean Wheel) for one. I was able to do 16 wheels per bottle. If the stuff runs and produces spots you are using much too much.

I still use the products from time to time because it makes my "silver sparkle" wheels gleam like nothing else.
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 02:03 PM
  #12  
jagxk2008's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,037
Likes: 85
From: Espana
Default

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
Decent. Not as much initial bite, but after that very similar. No dust! Had the Akebono's on my VDP and would like to get on XK
I am concerned cause I don't want say the brakes saved me once or twice already but yes they work excelent now and twice I was really a bit late and I appreciated their effects.
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 02:06 PM
  #13  
plums's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,733
Likes: 2,201
From: on-the-edge
Default

Originally Posted by tnt10
I don't want to hijack this thread, but wasn't there discussion on another thread about these causung some damage (or the like) to the rotors??

tnt
According to Centric who sell both types, the ceramic pads result in more rotor wear and less stopping power.
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 02:18 PM
  #14  
jagxk2008's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,037
Likes: 85
From: Espana
Default

Originally Posted by plums
According to Centric who sell both types, the ceramic pads result in more rotor wear and less stopping power.
I guess they are saying what they want cause here they said ceramic are better on the rotors...
Which Are The Best Brake Pads - Ceramic vs. Metallic - EBC Performance Brakes & Rotors

With the confusion I will buy eagle one and wash my wheels...

but in case, which Akebono pads fits the xkr 2010?
 

Last edited by jagxk2008; Apr 29, 2013 at 03:08 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 10:03 PM
  #15  
Skeeter's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 314
Likes: 76
From: Berkeley, CA
Default

Being under the 2011 wear and tear warranty, the dealership told me they won't let me substitute pads and the free brake jobs require them to install factory pads. Bummer.

I've been using the armor all wheel spray, but the results, while better, are still bad. The rims look filthy after minimal driving, and I don't have a setup where I can easily get a hose on the rims to rinse them off...

I'm going to enact the ultimate sanction and plasti-dip the rims gloss black and see if that doesn't make the dust harder to notice A severe solution, but the dust KILLS ME with the quickness it accumulates. Never seen a car that generates so much dust that sticks so badly. Awful!

If the black rims look bad, I'll get some gasoline soaked rags and wipe the plasti-dip off. Good to know I can go back easily. Worth a shot I figure.

Skeeter
 
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 11:24 AM
  #16  
Bruce M.'s Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 160
Likes: 45
From: Seattle
Default

Originally Posted by jagxk2008
I guess they are saying what they want cause here they said ceramic are better on the rotors...
Which Are The Best Brake Pads - Ceramic vs. Metallic - EBC Performance Brakes & Rotors

With the confusion I will buy eagle one and wash my wheels...

but in case, which Akebono pads fits the xkr 2010?


Did you ever find an answer to this question, because I have yet to find it. I loved the Akebono ceramics on my 2004 XJR, and would like to use them on my 2010 XKR, but can't find them anywhere, including on Akebono's website...
 
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 11:39 AM
  #17  
mosesbotbol's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 6,286
Likes: 1,208
From: Boston, USA
Default

Originally Posted by Skeeter
Being under the 2011 wear and tear warranty, the dealership told me they won't let me substitute pads and the free brake jobs require them to install factory pads. Bummer.
Don't go to the dealer then to install the pads. Yes, there is a cost, but having the pads you want is worth a little $$.
 
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2013 | 04:25 PM
  #18  
harnack's Avatar
Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 33
Likes: 1
From: naperville, il
Default

I have used the Armour All product listed here with good results.
 
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2013 | 05:10 AM
  #19  
rscultho's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 264
From: Atlanta
Default

Originally Posted by jagxk2008
I guess they are saying what they want cause here they said ceramic are better on the rotors...
Which Are The Best Brake Pads - Ceramic vs. Metallic - EBC Performance Brakes & Rotors
Brakes are wear items and something has to wear and cause friction otherwise you lose braking ability.

The harder your brake pads are, the more the rotors will be worn and gouged. Regular iron rotors will get more wear from ceramic or Kevlar impregnated pads (like the EBC Redstuff pads). Also harder pads don't have the cold braking ability or the regular street braking performance that the softer semi-metallic pads have, and one should be cognizant of this when driving.

I've found that since I painted most of my wheels black I don't see the brake dust a much...
 
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2013 | 08:07 AM
  #20  
elindo's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 231
Likes: 30
From: Central Virginia
Default Ceramics vs OEM

My recent experience is that ceramics can cause your rotors to warp. Perhaps it depends on the brand, but, Akebono does not make front pads for 2007 XK. I went with Wagner ceramics and half way through my pads the rotors warped. Not worth it to me for dust less wheels. Changed my rotors and went back to OEM pads. Just not worth it to me.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:17 PM.