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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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As the leader of the charge of the environmentalists, California banned the sale of new gasoline vehicles beginning in 2035.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...vehicles-2035/

Or have they?

Like Mark Twain, reports of the death of the internal combustion engine are greatly exaggerated. As Monty Python said, "I'm not dead yet!"

Thanks to Porsche, Siemens Energy and Exxon, California's plans may have just been stymied by the planned introduction of carbon-neutral synthetic gasoline.
https://carbuzz.com/news/porsche-dev...bustion-engine

That's good news for us X150 lovers and everyone else who wants to keep enjoying their vehicle with an internal combustion engine.

P.S. Also posted here on the Forum:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/o...-237953/page3/
 

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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 10:53 AM
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Endangered species? Not in our lifetime.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 11:44 AM
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Haha what a coincidence .... just today I was looking at a commercial property to purchase and setup a gas station/garage!!

Never make a deal without thinking long term - unless you are rich.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 11:57 AM
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Japan just jumped aboard the internal combustion engine ban, too.
https://carbuzz.com/news/japan-wants...wered-vehicles
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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Probably will adopt the Euro model of pricing people out of the big engine market by taxing the hell out of gasoline. It will be our "sin" tax like Canada has on liquor or the US put in place for tobacco.

It will be a long time...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 06:55 PM
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I foresee a whole bunch of people keeping older vehicles in commission for a longer period of time.
Although I never read any mandate for California, I'd suspect it's ONLY for California Dealers, and people could always go out of state and buy ICE vehicles. I've no idea about any Registration requirements. Can't really tell a person moving INTO a state that they can't keep their car...
 
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Can't really tell a person moving INTO a state that they can't keep their car...
I'll bet California can/will.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2020 | 09:26 AM
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Yes. They will be phased out. It won't be overnight.

The horse and buggy used to be the main mode of transportation. It took a several decades to transition to cars as roads needed to be built as well as fuel delivery infrastructure.

While we already have roads, there will be a infrastructure renovation that will take many, many years.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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There is some pretty exciting electric cars being thought about or designed/constructed. While it's way above my budget, the Rimac CTwo, an all-electric vehicle from Croatia, might be one of the fastest cars on the planet for 0-60 (1.85 sec) and top speed (258 mph). Rimac is a supplier to among others Jaguar. I can't remember who but a retired F1 driver now owns one.



 
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Old Dec 6, 2020 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 1 of 19
I'll bet California can/will.
That's OK. It seems everybody is leaving California and coming to Texas anyway. And now that the mass "work from home" experiment has been successful and many professionals have learned they can work from anywhere, one does not have to live near one's corporate headquarters, that will only accelerate as people move from high cost of living areas to areas with lower cost of living.

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Yes. They will be phased out. It won't be overnight.

The horse and buggy used to be the main mode of transportation. It took a several decades to transition to cars as roads needed to be built as well as fuel delivery infrastructure.

While we already have roads, there will be a infrastructure renovation that will take many, many years.
I figure that electric cars cannot possibly achieve more than probably 35% market share until they solve the charging time/range issue. Everyone plans at some point to drive a long distance to visit relatives or go on vacation. Since a large percentage of the population lives more than 250 miles from a forest, a mountain, an ocean or grandma, they're going to want a car that can get them there with a minimum of fuss. So until one can stop at just about any highway intersection across the country and fully recharge his batteries in under five minutes, most people will still prefer an ICE. The only market share that the electric car can tap until then is the people who are well off enough to own a second vehicle for those longer distance trips. A married couple might own one electric car that one spouse uses around town but they will always own another ICE car that the other spouse uses and that they also take on longer trips. Most single people won't consider an electric vehicle because they can only afford one vehicle and it has to be able to do everything they imagine themselves ever doing.

And of course Californians will simply buy whichever car will get them to Texas the easiest.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2020 | 04:16 PM
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Today I used my V8 to burn gas and emit CO2. Lots of it.
 
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Scott is bang on. I'll take it a bit further... once autonomous vehicles become available manually driving a motor car will be viewed as a waste and unintelligent way to spend your time. Transportation will become a utility with different classes of service.
 
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Well they can have my Gas Guzzling "ICE" Hot Rod when they pry it out of my Cold Dead Hands! Excuse me that was they can have my Gun when they pry it from my Cold Dead Hands. Either way works for me. Thank You. to all who drive these electric cars Tesla's Prius' etc. My hot Rod just used the gas you saved Thanks.

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Old Dec 6, 2020 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott in PA
Yes. They will be phased out. It won't be overnight.

The horse and buggy used to be the main mode of transportation. It took a several decades to transition to cars as roads needed to be built as well as fuel delivery infrastructure.

While we already have roads, there will be a infrastructure renovation that will take many, many years.
Mark Twain put it this way ...

Years ago, everybody got around in a horse and buggy, but it was only those really rich folks who could afford one of them new-fangled auto-mo-biles.

Today, everybody's got a car, and some have two or three or more. But it's only those really rich folks who can afford a horse!

 
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Old Dec 7, 2020 | 08:11 AM
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You guys are already behind the times. Forget electric cars or self driving, the new age is about flying cars. They are building a flying car hub in Orlando right now...Welcome to the future? Flying car hub being built in Orlando (tampabay.com)



 
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Old Dec 7, 2020 | 09:00 AM
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Great. Now that we can't go anywhere, we'll be able to not go there faster....
 
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Old Dec 7, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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Right on que, this is a new video and quite an interesting view about the future of Petrol cars. Harry Metcalfe has a respected opinion in the specialist car world in the UK.
 
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Originally Posted by tampamark
You guys are already behind the times. Forget electric cars or self driving, the new age is about flying cars. They are building a flying car hub in Orlando right now...Welcome to the future? Flying car hub being built in Orlando (tampabay.com)

I was so tempted to remind folks that as a tot in the '60s we were promised flying cars by 2000. I guess it got lost in all that Y2K hulabaloo.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott in PA
I was so tempted to remind folks that as a tot in the '60s we were promised flying cars by 2000. I guess it got lost in all that Y2K hulabaloo.
Flying cars will never work, there would be no way to control traffic. Think about downtown L.A... 7 million flying cars going every which way at Ludicrous Speed. It would be like a meteor shower on the ground, with pieces-parts-bodies raining down.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:10 PM
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Cee Jay, that's a brilliant solution for LA's problems!
 
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