JLR North America CEO Confirms No X150 Replacement
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JLR North America CEO Confirms No X150 Replacement
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JLR North America CEO Confirms No X150 Replacement. This is a change in course from what we've been hearing about a new luxury XJ-based coupe to compete with the Continental GT.
F Type/XJ Sedan will be the range topping models.
Seems like they're taking the brand more and more downmarket, focusing on volume XE, XF and F Pace for now.
JLR North America CEO Confirms No X150 Replacement. This is a change in course from what we've been hearing about a new luxury XJ-based coupe to compete with the Continental GT.
F Type/XJ Sedan will be the range topping models.
Seems like they're taking the brand more and more downmarket, focusing on volume XE, XF and F Pace for now.
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Woah! Just specced up an F-Type SVR with all the trimmings I fancy - £125k...
5 years ago, the 75 was the top-of-the-line at £85k, so the SVR is nearly 50% more expensive. OK, it's AWD, 575PS and does 3.5s to 60 with 200 mph top speed, but that's a lot of extra dosh. The base SVR is £110k, by the way, so it's still no bargain.
Assuming the X150 replacement was visualised as being a higher-end model, imagine what they'd be asking for it...
5 years ago, the 75 was the top-of-the-line at £85k, so the SVR is nearly 50% more expensive. OK, it's AWD, 575PS and does 3.5s to 60 with 200 mph top speed, but that's a lot of extra dosh. The base SVR is £110k, by the way, so it's still no bargain.
Assuming the X150 replacement was visualised as being a higher-end model, imagine what they'd be asking for it...
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Woah! Just specced up an F-Type SVR with all the trimmings I fancy - £125k...
5 years ago, the 75 was the top-of-the-line at £85k, so the SVR is nearly 50% more expensive. OK, it's AWD, 575PS and does 3.5s to 60 with 200 mph top speed, but that's a lot of extra dosh. The base SVR is £110k, by the way, so it's still no bargain.
Assuming the X150 replacement was visualised as being a higher-end model, imagine what they'd be asking for it...
5 years ago, the 75 was the top-of-the-line at £85k, so the SVR is nearly 50% more expensive. OK, it's AWD, 575PS and does 3.5s to 60 with 200 mph top speed, but that's a lot of extra dosh. The base SVR is £110k, by the way, so it's still no bargain.
Assuming the X150 replacement was visualised as being a higher-end model, imagine what they'd be asking for it...
It would have made for a great daily driver. But I can understand the business reasons behind not moving forward with those plans.
I agree that pricing any vehicles much higher than the F Type SVR would limit the market substantially.
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Often the early models, because of purity of design, are worth more than the later models; for example, the Jaguar E-Types and the Mercedes Benz 300SL (gullwing coupes worth more than roadsters). Being rare helps.
I don't know of any really valuable, super rare cars that are fugly. Fortunately, all of our X150 models are gorgeous. That makes them likely collectibles.
I don't know of any really valuable, super rare cars that are fugly. Fortunately, all of our X150 models are gorgeous. That makes them likely collectibles.
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I'm sure the XK will always be appreciated as a good looking car, but I seriously doubt the depreciation curve will change.
If someone does 'collect' it, it will be for aesthetic appreciation, not a financial one.
Of course, I hope I'm wrong, as I would love to 'make out' selling it some day.
If someone does 'collect' it, it will be for aesthetic appreciation, not a financial one.
Of course, I hope I'm wrong, as I would love to 'make out' selling it some day.
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E Types didn't start to really take off until about 6-8 years ago (about 40 years after production ended) and they were an iconic car to begin with.
The XJS ended production 20 years ago this year, and they're still dirt cheap for the most part. Some models are starting to appreciate ever so slightly.
X100s, having ended production 10 years ago, are still depreciating.
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If we do see any appreciation, it probably won't be for another 35+ years or so I would think.
E Types didn't start to really take off until about 6-8 years ago (about 40 years after production ended) and they were an iconic car to begin with.
The XJS ended production 20 years ago this year, and they're still dirt cheap for the most part. Some models are starting to appreciate ever so slightly.
X100s, having ended production 10 years ago, are still depreciating.
E Types didn't start to really take off until about 6-8 years ago (about 40 years after production ended) and they were an iconic car to begin with.
The XJS ended production 20 years ago this year, and they're still dirt cheap for the most part. Some models are starting to appreciate ever so slightly.
X100s, having ended production 10 years ago, are still depreciating.
The etype was its own enemy by being the most successful sports car of the era. They sold 750,000 of them. Also they were rust buckets.
The XJS were nightmares to own new and used. The Porsche 928 was the same, it never appreciated and cars built after it did!!
Age or rarity alone does not make for a collectible, it has to be a good car to begin with.
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There is another huge aspect to collectible that has solely to do with power. We see this already, XK's go unbid on ebay, unless the price comes to below wholesale. 510 HP XKR on the other hand always has takers. In other words 500hp itself is desirable regardless of the package- especially if its reliable.
Mark my words, when Jag goes primarily to the diesel ingenium engines and complicated hybrids as they indicated. And once the 5.0 SC establishes itself as a high mileage engine. These XKRs are going to look very appealing in a world of gutless wonders and insane complexity. Not unlike lot of muscle cars are now!
Mark my words, when Jag goes primarily to the diesel ingenium engines and complicated hybrids as they indicated. And once the 5.0 SC establishes itself as a high mileage engine. These XKRs are going to look very appealing in a world of gutless wonders and insane complexity. Not unlike lot of muscle cars are now!
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An excellent condition Manual 928 can probably match its MSRP not adjusted for inflation, but its an exception among 928's, and needs to be in really sharp condition, and perhaps low miles to fetch that. I agree 100%, the huge supply of not taken care of cars with owners wanting to just pass their problems on to others, keep the prices low. The only way a model overcomes this, is to be something exceptional within the line up. Jaguars come standard with pretty much every feature anyone would want, so there isn't a lot to set anyone's car apart to the used buyer.
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Yes even Porsche would consider an excellent condition 928 an absolute miracle. I dont think there ever was such an animal. I had one. Worst car ever. Revolutionary design but garbage.
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An excellent condition Manual 928 can probably match its MSRP not adjusted for inflation, but its an exception among 928's, and needs to be in really sharp condition, and perhaps low miles to fetch that. I agree 100%, the huge supply of not taken care of cars with owners wanting to just pass their problems on to others, keep the prices low. The only way a model overcomes this, is to be something exceptional within the line up. Jaguars come standard with pretty much every feature anyone would want, so there isn't a lot to set anyone's car apart to the used buyer.
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One of the problems with having a rare model is determining what its value actually is, since they don't come up for sale often. I'm sure my 75 will be worth more when I eventually sell it than a standard MY11 XKR of equivalent mileage/condition. But how much more? I've only seen one for sale since I bought mine (and there were only 20 in the UK). Setting an asking price will be tricky...
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