Which modern car can be collectible?
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jagxk2008 (05-23-2016)
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I don't want to hijack this thread, but I think the OP's question is too broad, since virtually all supercars can be considered to be collectible, as well as those somewhat lesser sports cars whose names end in the letter "i" but nevertheless are unaffordable by most new car buyers.
I propose limiting the discussion to cars made in the last 25 years, from 1990 to 2015, and that can be purchased today for $50,000 or less. Maybe we should also include other criteria, such as country of manufacture. What do you think?
Sorry, tberg, although I agree with your choice.
I propose limiting the discussion to cars made in the last 25 years, from 1990 to 2015, and that can be purchased today for $50,000 or less. Maybe we should also include other criteria, such as country of manufacture. What do you think?
Sorry, tberg, although I agree with your choice.
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richzak (05-23-2016)
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Unless it was the Grizwald's station wagon, or Herbie the lovebug.
This has always been the case, kids grow up to buy their dream cars.
However, there is a new trend, in the last five years, people want buy class. By this I mean they want something that has real style and performance, not just old or rare or iconic. I have a car that sold for $8000 new, its now $100K! its not rare, its never been in any movie.
Its easy to see why- there is a new problem, anybody these days can get a Ferrari or lambo, or anything that was previously considered exotic. They rent them even in small towns for cheap. Plus there is a new way of being a show-off, understated opulence. Look at the car in the link below, we make parts in the same factory, they cant keep up with demand. Note you can buy a Ferrari at this price. ICON FJ-44 checks in to Jay Leno's Garage - Autoblog
This has always been the case, kids grow up to buy their dream cars.
However, there is a new trend, in the last five years, people want buy class. By this I mean they want something that has real style and performance, not just old or rare or iconic. I have a car that sold for $8000 new, its now $100K! its not rare, its never been in any movie.
Its easy to see why- there is a new problem, anybody these days can get a Ferrari or lambo, or anything that was previously considered exotic. They rent them even in small towns for cheap. Plus there is a new way of being a show-off, understated opulence. Look at the car in the link below, we make parts in the same factory, they cant keep up with demand. Note you can buy a Ferrari at this price. ICON FJ-44 checks in to Jay Leno's Garage - Autoblog
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Stuart,
I agree it's too broad, and I differentiate between collectible and investment when it comes to classic cars. Just because a car is classic or collectible doesn't necessarily mean it is going to appreciate in value anytime soon. The 2005-2006 Ford GT never depreciated from its original pricing and has continued to escalate ever since. The BMW Z8 did as well. I really think he was inquiring (in a roundabout way) as to whether his new Aston Rapide would be one of those that becomes collectible, and I would think not.
When I bought my '72 De Tomaso Pantera years ago, I wasn't thinking investment, I was thinking beauty, performance, Italian design. I consider it just pure luck that in the last year prices have doubled on nice cars and rust buckets projects as well. I'm not selling it, so what does it matter.
I agree it's too broad, and I differentiate between collectible and investment when it comes to classic cars. Just because a car is classic or collectible doesn't necessarily mean it is going to appreciate in value anytime soon. The 2005-2006 Ford GT never depreciated from its original pricing and has continued to escalate ever since. The BMW Z8 did as well. I really think he was inquiring (in a roundabout way) as to whether his new Aston Rapide would be one of those that becomes collectible, and I would think not.
When I bought my '72 De Tomaso Pantera years ago, I wasn't thinking investment, I was thinking beauty, performance, Italian design. I consider it just pure luck that in the last year prices have doubled on nice cars and rust buckets projects as well. I'm not selling it, so what does it matter.
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Aston
Boutique brands from independent companies which have no risk of future dilution. One of the worst enemy of any car is the manufacturer themselves.
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About three years ago I NEARLY pulled the trigger on a 1986 Countach, listed for $89,500. Turns out I REALLY should have bought it, because in the three years since the prices on Countaches have at LEAST doubled, if not quadrupled. Quite ridiculous, since the infinitely better Aventador is priced on-par.
One never knows...
One never knows...
Last edited by Cee Jay; 05-23-2016 at 03:36 PM. Reason: "Nearly" meant the wife absolutely forbade it.
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Of course most of the cars on F and F will be collectables, the only reason they're on there is they start at $200+K. They're on there because they're pretty much unobtainable to anyone watching that show. That being said today's cars lack most of what makes collectors cars collectable:
Uniqueness, exclusivity (low production numbers). Look at the Toyota land cruiser mentioned earlier or a older Ford Bronco as examples of fairly high production numbers, not great looking, but purpose-built. Would love to see remakes of the Toyota S2000!
Anyway, dreaming there... cars today, with the exception of perhaps some Aston's, McClaen, Ferrari, etc that are priced astronomically, lack the character (*that includes the Nissan GT-r). The Ford GT40 and Lexus LFA will only go up in value, hopefully the NSX (if and when that ever comes out) will appreciate. Everything else is pretty much a "me too" car not designed or built to do anything extraordinary
Hurts me to see Ferrari Dino's, Lambo Countach, Jag E-types were all well under $100K @8 years ago now some are fetching well over $500K! Unreal appreciation.
Uniqueness, exclusivity (low production numbers). Look at the Toyota land cruiser mentioned earlier or a older Ford Bronco as examples of fairly high production numbers, not great looking, but purpose-built. Would love to see remakes of the Toyota S2000!
Anyway, dreaming there... cars today, with the exception of perhaps some Aston's, McClaen, Ferrari, etc that are priced astronomically, lack the character (*that includes the Nissan GT-r). The Ford GT40 and Lexus LFA will only go up in value, hopefully the NSX (if and when that ever comes out) will appreciate. Everything else is pretty much a "me too" car not designed or built to do anything extraordinary
Hurts me to see Ferrari Dino's, Lambo Countach, Jag E-types were all well under $100K @8 years ago now some are fetching well over $500K! Unreal appreciation.
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Not the Honda S2000 the Toyota. I've always liked Honda but my god they've fallen off the tracks with their designs over the last 15 years with both their cars and motorcycles. That new S2000 of theirs is only a conversation at this point and not my type of car, the early Toyota looked just like a Ferrari Daytona
Well, here ya go...
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/ho...bVvxYE4RLy6vPA
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/ho...bVvxYE4RLy6vPA
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If you really want solid information of which cars in the past are the best investments, spend some watching the Mechem Auto Auctions, Barrett-Jackson, and others.
There is a wide array of cars that have risen in value over the last 50 years.
The question is too broad to even define.
And Yes, Jay Leno has a collection that is worth millions, as well as so many other car collectors own, but you never see due to the fact they are private collections.
Do some research on private car collections and you will be amazed at what you see and find.
There is a wide array of cars that have risen in value over the last 50 years.
The question is too broad to even define.
And Yes, Jay Leno has a collection that is worth millions, as well as so many other car collectors own, but you never see due to the fact they are private collections.
Do some research on private car collections and you will be amazed at what you see and find.
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About three years ago I NEARLY pulled the trigger on a 1986 Countach, listed for $89,500. Turns out I REALLY should have bought it, because in the three years since the prices on Countaches have at LEAST doubled, if not quadrupled. Quite ridiculous, since the infinitely better Aventador is priced on-par.
One never knows...
One never knows...
I have a few stories w/ lambos such as yours.
missed a miura s @ $119k in 2004.
missed a diablo se 30 @ $140k in 2005
missed a ct 25th @ $155k in 2012...the list goes on