Of course condensation clears but my headlights look like someone poured low fat milk on the inside and let it dry. Thats normal for a car with 4400 miles?!

You can eat off my car its so clean... The headlights look horrible and I didn't notice how bad they were until I looked at a picture from a few months ago.

 

It even says it in the manual that condensation is normal. Although, i don't agree with it.

Maxima, just try using your headlamps next few times you are out driving, it should get the moisture out.

 

But it won't get the stain out, thats the problem. It dries and leaves a milky film all over the inside of the lens.

 

Most of these cars (many models will get condensation due to changes in atm pressure/weather etc. Run headlights for 5 minutes and it is all gone. Has happened to most vehicles I've owned at one time or another.

BTW your location proved my point. Miami and highly humid as well as salty air..... BTW live on or very near water??

 

I called Jag NA the service advisor can deal with them and I made the GM aware of the situation by forwarding him the email thread.

So I have 100k+ car with milky headlights due to condensation that just started, great.

This is the kind of garbage that has made me ignore Jaguar/Land Rover for all of time.

 

That's not acceptable at all.

 

ive just tried to not look at the headlights tooo closely.... I might get disappointed in what is already one of the most beautiful cars ive seen in person.

 

LOL I tried that, but after talking to a friend who just purchased a new S Class that had the same problem in 3k miles I have to try. MB replaced his immediately.

 

From the 5.0 workshop manual:

This implies there have been TSBs relating to condensation, though they may not apply to the later cars.

 

Mercedes Benz cares about their name too much that's why, the lamp got replaces right away. The new S class was launched with a program(can't remember the name) where, I remember reading one of the customer's brand name sunglasses wouldn't fit in the holder, so they paid for another branded pair that would fit, to make the customer happy.

In another scenario, one of the customers had to bring the S class back for a minor service within the first few hundred miles, he was told that was unacceptable from a new S class, they gave a gift card to one of the most expensive restaurants in the town.


Apologies for getting off topic, but that's an elite service.....wish I could find the article to post it here.

 

This is the TSB for the earlier XK's and XF's.

 

Your statements are showing a profound level ignorance that wealth cannot account for. Sorry chief.

 

I've noticed this since I bought my '12. It comes and goes and does leave a bit of residue, usually in the outermost 'corner'... my service tech at the Jag dealer also told me it's normal.

It's almost as annoying as not being able to hit a button to wash the headlights....

 

My headlights are not sealed to the atmosphere, so I suppose humid days followed by cold nights could very well lead to condensation inside the headlamp. Wouldn't condensation be perfectly clean water with no impurities? I don't see how it could stain unless the inside of your lamp was dirty already for some reason. Regardless, if the inside of the lamp is dirty, you can clean it: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...adlamp-110636/

Alternatively keeping it garaged or running the headlights when it's outside in the humidity would, I would guess, keep the inside of the lamp dry.

 

I live in an ultra dry desert climate and have had no problems with moisture building up in the lenses. My 2009 headlights look like they just rolled out of the production line.

I think your problem may be due to the excessive moisture and salt conditions of living in a damp climate like south Florida. Midwest conditions would be the same I know, no salt water but lots of moisture and excessive dampness. I am from the Chicago area originally. Same with Nova Scotia.

Is your car garage kept? when not driving it.

Salt water air when dry will create a white residue.

Big problem is you can't clean it off from the inside which I am sure adds to alot of frustration.

I would assume that there are very few related problems with Jaguar owners living in the southwest or other dry climatic geographical locations.

 

It really doesn't. Salt spray will. But evaporation and condensation is one way to desalinate water.

My headlamps have weep holes on the back with U-shaped grommets on them, I assume to prevent water from spraying/leaking inside while still allowing some air-flow between the inside of the lamp and the atmosphere. Perhaps the grommets are missing on some of these problem headlamps? Perhaps they live in more polluted areas where particulates in the air leave a film of dust on the inside of the lamp?

 

There's no excuse for poor design. When design fails customer service needs to kick in. All Nissan models including my GT-R headlights are covered under warranty for moisture problems. Jaguar should issue a customer recall to fix this problem. Jaguar needs to go beyond acceptable industry customer service to overcome their reliability stigma. It's poor customer service like what I hear on this thread that will keep the brand in the dark...

 

Perhaps, when the headlights are working the heat may dissipate or reduce the tendency to "fog"?
As mentioned, perhaps we should run with the headlights on during warm/cool periods to reduce the tendency?

 

As a follow up...
Simply getting a new headlight bucket is not going to solve the issue. There needs to be compensating holes in the headlight covers to allow for an equalization of the air/moisture temp differences, as I see it.
I have the same situation (house), during the winter months as my storm eqpt. windows fog and condensate on sever cold days due to the temp differences.

 

Try taking the attached to the dealer