"service required" message
My 2010 XK currently has 8,560 miles on it. Recently when starting the car, the message "service required" will appear in the message center for one or two seconds and then go out. I own my car for a little over 2 years and have had an oil change and brake fluid flush at 6,058 miles 2 years ago at Jaguar. Does this message come on because of specific mileage on odometer and then go out after some time? Does it have to be reset by dealer for it to go out? Thanks all.
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WOW. One oil change in 2 years.
Not good. |
Originally Posted by Queen and Country
(Post 1456295)
WOW. One oil change in 2 years.
Not good. |
Originally Posted by bocatrip
(Post 1456345)
Synthetic oil, and driven 2,000 miles.
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Will the "service required" go out on it's own?
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Boca:
My 2009 XKR gets driven with low mileage also on an annual basis. Although I put about 2000 to 2500 miles on the XKR yearly, I do have the oil changed annually. I buy my own Castrol oil, filter (which is a standard type oil filter for the 2009 4.2L) and have a local oil change business complete the change. I have no experience the "service" message, but would simply call your Hag dealer and make an inquiry as to the message light and the cycle for the oil change. While your mileage is low in regards to oil change recommendations the oil may break down after sitting for 2 years in the engine and pan. I am not an oil expert but think it may break down over time. .. |
Originally Posted by bocatrip
(Post 1456350)
Will the "service required" go out on it's own?
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No the service light will not go out on its own
Yes you definitely need to change oil each year- especially because you have that few miles. I.e. oil that gets foul and never burned off. Even if you did not put the oil in the car, it only has a shelf-life of 12 months once exposed to air. The procedure is called "resetting service light" search for it here on the forum and folks have put excellent directions. |
Originally Posted by Queen and Country
(Post 1456372)
Yes you definitely need to change oil each year- especially because you have that few miles. I.e. oil that gets foul and never burned off.
As mentioned by yourself and others already, I am reiterating that parts have a "shelf life" where they dry out, rot, or contaminate. Tires are also included this. Do you have the owners manual? It should tell you the possible things a light or message means. I have the 4.2 engine, so I cannot assist by walking out to my car and reading my manual. |
Originally Posted by Tervuren
(Post 1456393)
This depends on whether it has low miles from infrequent use, or incredibly short trips, like the people I see drive 50 feet down their drive way to the mailbox. :icon_rolleyes: The latter causes what you mention. If its infrequent use, but everything runs at proper temps for sustained trips, it is not arduous.
As mentioned by yourself and others already, I am reiterating that parts have a "shelf life" where they dry out, rot, or contaminate. Tires are also included this. Do you have the owners manual? It should tell you the possible things a light or message means. I have the 4.2 engine, so I cannot assist by walking out to my car and reading my manual. Also this oil will go bad sitting in the engine. With zero miles on it. Service light that only comes on at startup on 5.0 is change oil reminder. The only super optimistic way that a oil can be kept over a year in the engine is if the 1000 miles he puts on are 10, 100 mile trips. Even then, its risky and Jaguar will void warranty for lack of timely oil change. |
Thanks everyone for your valuable advice. I have an oil change scheduled at Jaguar for this Monday. I spoke with my trusty service writer and he assured me the "service required" message needs to be reset by Jaguar. Luckily for me, I just happened to save a Gift Certificate Coupon for any Jaguar service for $50 off which comes in handy for a typical Jaguar $150 oil change. Live and learn. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by bocatrip
(Post 1456446)
Thanks everyone for your valuable advice. I have an oil change scheduled at Jaguar for this Monday. I spoke with my trusty service writer and he assured me the "service required" message needs to be reset by Jaguar. Luckily for me, I just happened to save a Gift Certificate Coupon for any Jaguar service for $50 off which comes in handy for a typical Jaguar $150 oil change. Live and learn. Thanks again.
The service light will be reset by them, but doesn't have to be reset by them. Admittedly, it took me a bunch of tries to get my light to reset (I do my own oil changes) but it is doable by anyone who knows the sequence of button presses. Do what Q&C suggested if you want to know how to reset the warning yourself. |
Originally Posted by Slee_Stack
(Post 1456499)
If its $100 out the door, that's a pretty good deal on the change.
The service light will be reset by them, but doesn't have to be reset by them. Admittedly, it took me a bunch of tries to get my light to reset (I do my own oil changes) but it is doable by anyone who knows the sequence of button presses. Do what Q&C suggested if you want to know how to reset the warning yourself. |
Originally Posted by bocatrip
(Post 1456629)
Apparently, what was explained to me at Jaguar, they no longer drain and refill the engine oil, but instead suck it out and then replenish. Is this true?
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It is true there is a tube inside to suck out the oil. However I still put in the air and drain it, reason being its a chance to look the car over and let you know the health of things underneath. You should always change the oil at recommended intervals, more so if you drive a lot, and even if only a few hundred miles a year. On the 5.0L engines there is an oil life sensor in the bottom of the pan. As far as the reset procedure goes, sometimes can be tricky. You press the rear fog light button, hold it, at the same time turn the ignition on, release the rear fog light, then release fog light button, then quickly press trip button then rear fog again, and it should say resetting oil service, keep pressing both buttons till it says it's reset. It might take a few tries, otherwise the dealer should be able to do it for yah free of charge.
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It's a nice car. Drive it more :)
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
(Post 1456399)
We may confuse him, he is under the impression that he can double the oil change interval because he does not drive much. The opposite is true.
Also this oil will go bad sitting in the engine. With zero miles on it. Service light that only comes on at startup on 5.0 is change oil reminder. The only super optimistic way that a oil can be kept over a year in the engine is if the 1000 miles he puts on are 10, 100 mile trips. Even then, its risky and Jaguar will void warranty for lack of timely oil change. I know there is a long thread on this subject at the moment where there appears to be very different views. I change my 4.2 XK oil every 12 months whatever the mileage ,it's normally 3-4 K miles. I have recently bought a fairly new Mini and the service interval is 20k or 24 months. I will be changing it every year as I believe rightly or wrongly that 24 months is too long. The other argument is surely a car manufacturer wouldn't put a car at risk if oil only lasts a year. This topic perhaps is best in the other thread but with guys getting a bit heated and quoting tech specs over there it just confuses the issue. |
Originally Posted by JBzXJ40
(Post 1456637)
It is true there is a tube inside to suck out the oil. However I still put in the air and drain it, reason being its a chance to look the car over and let you know the health of things underneath. You should always change the oil at recommended intervals, more so if you drive a lot, and even if only a few hundred miles a year. On the 5.0L engines there is an oil life sensor in the bottom of the pan. As far as the reset procedure goes, sometimes can be tricky. You press the rear fog light button, hold it, at the same time turn the ignition on, release the rear fog light, then release fog light button, then quickly press trip button then rear fog again, and it should say resetting oil service, keep pressing both buttons till it says it's reset. It might take a few tries, otherwise the dealer should be able to do it for yah free of charge.
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Originally Posted by bocatrip
(Post 1456712)
Wow, I never heard of an oil life sensor! Is that what triggers the "service required" message?
SWMBO's car calculates that our environment and her driving style qualifies her for more than the BMW recommended standard interval. I'd have the car serviced soon if indeed it's been longer that Jag recommends. Possibly someone can confirm whether it's a 1 year or 2 year interval. Most manufacturers state a 2 year interval when synthetics are used. |
Originally Posted by Mikey
(Post 1456827)
No. Most modern cars have an electronic function monitoring engine operation, temperature, speed, elapsed time, mileage etc, all to calculate engine oil life. The mileage interval will vary longer or shorter based on environment and driving style or as in your case, simply run out of time.
SWMBO's car calculates that our environment and her driving style qualifies her for more than the BMW recommended standard interval. I'd have the car serviced soon if indeed it's been longer that Jag recommends. Possibly someone can confirm whether it's a 1 year or 2 year interval. Most manufacturers state a 2 year interval when synthetics are used. |
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