Sloppy rear end !!
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Sloppy rear end !!
After hearing some unusual sounds up front and replacing the entire braking system Including rebuild calipers I thought I'd pop the cat up on the hoist
Much to my dis-may my report resulted in the following suspension items that need to be replaced
N/S/R - - sway bay linkage
- camber adjustment rod / tie rod
- lower control arm bush
- upper control arm bush
O/S/R -sway bay linkage
-camber adjustment rod / tie rod
- lower control arm bush
- upper control arm bush
O/S/F - tie rod end
- upper control arm ball joint
Granted my vehicle has only done 60k km which is very low I would have to say this is probably one of the worst rear ends I have ever seen (suspension wise) I wonder if the heavy factory low profile 20s wheels have anything to do with this
Much to my dis-may my report resulted in the following suspension items that need to be replaced
N/S/R - - sway bay linkage
- camber adjustment rod / tie rod
- lower control arm bush
- upper control arm bush
O/S/R -sway bay linkage
-camber adjustment rod / tie rod
- lower control arm bush
- upper control arm bush
O/S/F - tie rod end
- upper control arm ball joint
Granted my vehicle has only done 60k km which is very low I would have to say this is probably one of the worst rear ends I have ever seen (suspension wise) I wonder if the heavy factory low profile 20s wheels have anything to do with this
Last edited by steve_k_xk; 05-06-2016 at 05:45 AM.
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After hearing some unusual sounds up front and replacing the entire braking system Including rebuild calipers I thought I'd pop the cat up on the hoist
Much to my dis-may my report resulted in the following suspension items that need to be replaced
N/S/R - - sway bay linkage
- camber adjustment rod / tie rod
- lower control arm bush
- upper control arm bush
O/S/R -sway bay linkage
-camber adjustment rod / tie rod
- lower control arm bush
- upper control arm bush
O/S/F - tie rod end
- upper control arm ball joint
Granted my vehicle has only done 60k km which is very low I would have to say this is probably one of the worst rear ends I have ever seen (suspension wise) I wonder if the heavy factory low profile 20s wheels have anything to do with this
Much to my dis-may my report resulted in the following suspension items that need to be replaced
N/S/R - - sway bay linkage
- camber adjustment rod / tie rod
- lower control arm bush
- upper control arm bush
O/S/R -sway bay linkage
-camber adjustment rod / tie rod
- lower control arm bush
- upper control arm bush
O/S/F - tie rod end
- upper control arm ball joint
Granted my vehicle has only done 60k km which is very low I would have to say this is probably one of the worst rear ends I have ever seen (suspension wise) I wonder if the heavy factory low profile 20s wheels have anything to do with this
Last edited by powerhouse; 05-06-2016 at 05:00 PM.
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Quaife ATB Differential Jaguar XKR X150 aluminum body 2007+
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I am surprised to see this as well as the brake system replacement in the front. How did you determine the bushings were bad. Are they dried and cracked or is the metal fatigue. This seems a little premature to me so it will be interesting to see the condition of the components after they are removed. Please keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by jagtoes
Interesting and disappointing to say the least. What type of driving conditions has the car been subjected to. Either the rubber selection is not conducive to temps or something else caused the deterioration. Are you going with a urethane replacement ?
Back on the subject of the wheels they in fact one of the heaviest 20" rim I have taken on/off
When it comes to urethane where I can use it I will but with ball joint component there's not too much I can do but go genuine jaguar parts
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Originally Posted by powerhouse
the surrounding parts look in clean order with no extensive visible rust, would the car have been subjected to salt water at a time maybe.
Maybe the combination of hard driving , heavy standard wheels and the saltwater in the air contributed to the deterioration.
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fortunately, these don't appear to be high cost parts and at least the shock and sway bar bushes are interchanged with S-Type, Lincoln, etc. I think the rear tie rods can be had for around $120 US for the pair, all four for about $180. Non poly bushes are of low cost. I haven't delved into the poly bushes. I haven't spotted the rear control arm bushes on eBay, poly or otherwise.
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Originally Posted by powerhouse
Seeing how you are intending building the rear have you considered fitting the Quaife ATB Differential.
Quaife ATB Differential Jaguar XKR X150 aluminum body 2007+
Quaife ATB Differential Jaguar XKR X150 aluminum body 2007+
Look at this on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/252376487410
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Poly bushings will make for a much harsher ride and eventually will also wear. They are good for track use but not good for road use especially worn or uneven pavement.
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Originally Posted by jahummer
The OE Jag bushings are grease filled rubber. Every Jag I have had has had this problem. The rubber deteriorates with age and the grease leaks out and eventually they develop too much play. Tire/wheel size and hard driving as well as salt have nothing to do with it.
Poly bushings will make for a much harsher ride and eventually will also wear. They are good for track use but not good for road use especially worn or uneven pavement.
Poly bushings will make for a much harsher ride and eventually will also wear. They are good for track use but not good for road use especially worn or uneven pavement.
You said every jag you have had has had this problem with the bushes/ball joints , I'm interested as to which models you had and at how km/miles did they occurred at .
At 60k km this shouldn't be happening to the whole rear end I didn't think it was a common problem with jaguar also on that point I wonder if aston Martin when built under Ford would also have this same problem
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Jahummer
You said every jag you have had has had this problem with the bushes/ball joints , I'm interested as to which models you had and at how km/miles did they occurred at .
At 60k km this shouldn't be happening to the whole rear end I didn't think it was a common problem with jaguar also on that point I wonder if aston Martin when built under Ford would also have this same problem
You said every jag you have had has had this problem with the bushes/ball joints , I'm interested as to which models you had and at how km/miles did they occurred at .
At 60k km this shouldn't be happening to the whole rear end I didn't think it was a common problem with jaguar also on that point I wonder if aston Martin when built under Ford would also have this same problem
The models are listed in my signature. The mileage varied from between 40-60K miles but as I said previously age has more to do with it than anything. The rubber dries out and the grease leaks out. Could be accelerated by warmer climates.
I will note that I have owned many other brands as well and Jaguar bushes have proved to be the worst of any.
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