What would you consider buying after your XK/XKR

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Dec 29, 2013 | 04:49 PM
  #21  
Quote: Holy CRAP let me have them all!

-$80K Ferrari 458 Italia with 300 miles, I'm IN!
-$80K McLaren P4 C12 with 301 miles, I'm IN!
-$80K Mercedes SLR with 302 miles, I'm IN!

The list goes on and on...PLEASE, PLEASE PM ME WHEN YOU FIND ONE!

When you see these deals please let me know and I'll wire the funds...or be on the first flight in the morning to pick up my new ride. I can't wait to drive by a 2014 Ferrari 458 as the new owner first drives it out of the show room in my 2014 Ferrari 458 which I paid $80K for!

What's the difference between a show room no owner 2013 XKR with 300 miles at the dealer for $92K and a one owner 2013 XKR with 300 miles at a reputable dealership for $78K? The difference is $14K more in your bank account to use as you please. Both cars will have the same value 1 year from now if they are in similar condition. I bought my used 2013 XKR with 300 miles, loaded with factory performance options in July for below $80K from a Bentley dealer in West Palm Springs. The car was never even set in by the original owner who has so much money to spend he buys a new car every 2 weeks and doesn't even drive them.
Your $80,000 price tag for the cars listed above aren't even close.

It would be a great dream to even touch any of these cars for $80,000 but you would have to probably wait until their 10 years + old. The Ferarri 458 is priced at over $250,000....a 2012 is presently worth $230,000 for the 458 Italia. The McClaren C4 is also priced near $250,000.

However your 2013 XKR with the 300 miles for under $80,000 was a good buy, but it is NOT a Ferrari 458 Italia or a McClaren C4.....you have to admit, the XKR is not even close.

Buy hey, it's always fun to dream about good things.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 05:20 PM
  #22  
Quote: Your $80,000 price tag for the cars listed above aren't even close.

It would be a great dream to even touch any of these cars for $80,000 but you would have to probably wait until their 10 years + old. The Ferarri 458 is priced at over $250,000....a 2012 is presently worth $230,000 for the 458 Italia. The McClaren C4 is also priced near $250,000.

However your 2013 XKR with the 300 miles for under $80,000 was a good buy, but it is NOT a Ferrari 458 Italia or a McClaren C4.....you have to admit, the XKR is not even close.

Buy hey, it's always fun to dream about good things.
DGL was joking. He was trying to make a point regarding $80k not being a good deal for any used car
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Dec 29, 2013 | 05:58 PM
  #23  
Is an $80k 2012 XKR-S really undervalued? That, in my opinion, is what makes a used car the "best deal"!
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Dec 29, 2013 | 06:33 PM
  #24  
Quote: Is an $80k 2012 XKR-S really undervalued? That, in my opinion, is what makes a used car the "best deal"!
Here are all the 2012 Jaguar XKR-S's listed for sale nationwide. None are under $80,000 but close to it, so perhaps any one these dealers would cut the price below...$80,000....in addition, they are all coupes. Convertibles listed separately.

2012 Jaguar XK-Series XKR-S Coupe For Sale - CarGurus

Here's the Convertibles listed which also include some 2013's.

http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...ertible-t44140

Hope this helps......
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Dec 29, 2013 | 06:53 PM
  #25  
Probably another Jaguar XK or XR.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 07:31 PM
  #26  
Quote: DGL was joking. He was trying to make a point regarding $80k not being a good deal for any used car


No one understood this but you. WTF... Read the complete quote before commenting.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 08:21 PM
  #27  
Quote: No one understood this but you. WTF... Read the complete quote before commenting.
Whoa partner!!!......put them six guns away.

Wasn't sure if you were vacationing in Colorado and smoking something funny or just dreaming about that Ferrari 458 Italia.

Sorry if I pissed you off.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 08:32 PM
  #28  
It makes me cry to see those prices. I could have bought a 2011 XKR for the same price as I paid for my 2007 here in New Zealand and the cheapest (and only) XKR-S (a 2012) on the market is $114,000 USD.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 09:47 PM
  #29  
Quote: It makes me cry to see those prices. I could have bought a 2011 XKR for the same price as I paid for my 2007 here in New Zealand and the cheapest (and only) XKR-S (a 2012) on the market is $114,000 USD.
The depreciation of the Jaguar brand here in the USA is quite extensive during the 1st 3 years. This has been a long topic of discussion here in past.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 10:02 PM
  #30  
Last month I searched autotrader.com for prices of the 2012 XKR-S. One dealer had 3 for sale. A red and blue coupe, and a green convertible. All were priced at below $80K. All with low mileage. I don't see them listed now. At below $80K the XKR-S is a great deal.

I feel for our friend in New Zealand, some countries have severe duties and taxes on imports. Although, New Zealand is such a beautiful place. Never been there but would love to go some day.

With so few XKR-S's produced, I think I would search for a good 2012 XKR-S if I were looking for an XK/XKR/XKR-S (XK) today. I don't completely understand why the XK doesn't hold it's value better. IMO, the XK is the best and coolest GT built today. Yes, Jaguar has a past to shake off, but today's Jaguars are built no worse than any other high end car. My XKR is my favourite ride, I would only replace it with another XK.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 11:01 PM
  #31  
I have never seen an XKR-S vert listed for under $80k and I check weekly. If so, that was a smoking deal.

This is the cheapest one I have ever seen, a green one listed at $89,880. It has 12k miles, but that is a pretty good deal for a car that was around $140k MSRP.

2013 Jaguar XK-Series XKR-S Convertible For Sale - CarGurus

Hope whoever snatches it up and enjoys it as much as I do.
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Dec 30, 2013 | 03:00 AM
  #32  
Quote: It makes me cry to see those prices. I could have bought a 2011 XKR for the same price as I paid for my 2007 here in New Zealand and the cheapest (and only) XKR-S (a 2012) on the market is $114,000 USD.
It was ever thus; car prices in NZ have always been high, though things improved somewhat once the used Japanese imports started coming in. Unfortunately, prices for non-Jap cars, particularly luxury models, seem to have stayed right up there.

How about importing a UK car? Cheapest R-S I can see today is a 2011 for £56,850 from a dealer, which is $US93,742. It's likely there will be cheaper ones out there for private sale. Of course, there's the shipping, insurance, etc., and I have no idea what those would cost nor any NZ import tax.
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Dec 30, 2013 | 04:06 AM
  #33  
Quote: The depreciation of the Jaguar brand here in the USA is quite extensive during the 1st 3 years. This has been a long topic of discussion here in past.
Depreciation of luxury cars is actually quite large in most countries in the first three years.

The cars in the US start off a lot cheaper e.g. a brand new XKR-S in NZ is $80,000USD more than in the US and a brand new XKR is around $61,000 more. That is the main reason your second hand prices are so much less.
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Dec 30, 2013 | 04:20 AM
  #34  
Quote: How about importing a UK car? Cheapest R-S I can see today is a 2011 for £56,850 from a dealer, which is $US93,742.
I did have a dealer looking in the UK for me when I bought my XKR but they were mainly limited to ex-company cars at auctions so that they can claim the VAT back as that was the best way to offset the cost of GST, shipping, compliance etc. Otherwise it is less cost effective.

I decide in the end that it wasn't worth the risk and I was also after a very specific spec and, without a VIN, I couldn't tell what spec the cars they were offering me where.

In the end a low mileage car matching my wishlist came up in NZ so I flew up to look at it then did the deal.
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Dec 30, 2013 | 07:31 AM
  #35  
Quote: Here are all the 2012 Jaguar XKR-S's listed for sale nationwide. None are under $80,000 but close to it, so perhaps any one these dealers would cut the price below...$80,000....in addition, they are all coupes. Convertibles listed separately.

2012 Jaguar XK-Series XKR-S Coupe For Sale - CarGurus

Here's the Convertibles listed which also include some 2013's.

http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...ertible-t44140

Hope this helps......
Ah, sorry. I assumed DGL was saying that the going rate for a 2012 XKR-S was $80k and that they were steals at that price.

I wonder what price 5.0L XKR-Ss will level out at in several years. $30k? Maybe buying a used XKR-S is a better investment than a used XKR because it may depreciate less.
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Dec 30, 2013 | 09:07 AM
  #36  
Quote: Ah, sorry. I assumed DGL was saying that the going rate for a 2012 XKR-S was $80k and that they were steals at that price.

I wonder what price 5.0L XKR-Ss will level out at in several years. $30k? Maybe buying a used XKR-S is a better investment than a used XKR because it may depreciate less.
As I mentioned a few posts ago if I could find a 2012 R-S vert for $80K I would buy it but I feel it will not come to pass until maybe 2-3 years. So I've set my target on a 2012 vert with a budget of around $75K . I've seen some in the high 70's so far but as we turn to 2014 I should have more negotiating power. We'll see and then there is going to be a search for color which based on what i have seen so far will be limited. I have a 3-4 month search window so we'll see how it turns out.
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Dec 30, 2013 | 05:23 PM
  #37  
2014 Aston Martin Vanquish Volante
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Dec 30, 2013 | 09:06 PM
  #38  
currently have an XKR with 17k on the dash. I plan to have to have this car for 2 more years so that is basically 2016 when I plan to replace it.

i have a BMW 740i which will remain my DD and beater. I plan to keep it forever.... its 170k on the dash. I am looking to keep it till 250k which will take some time. I dont do much driving

possible replacements in 2016 (prolly around $70k ish)
2002 Ferrari 360 Modena (red)
2012 XKR-S convertible (blue)
2013 Masrerati gran turismo S (in blue)

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Dec 31, 2013 | 08:12 AM
  #39  
Quote: possible replacements in 2016 (prolly around $70k ish)
2002 Ferrari 360 Modena (red)
2012 XKR-S convertible (blue)
2013 Masrerati gran turismo S (in blue)
All three would be cars I'd consider as well. I need a daily driver, do you think the 360 would work? My hunch is it would fare better as a daily driver than garage queen, but Ferrari quality has me on the fence whether it would be more reliable than an Aston; sticky buttons, shrinking leather and all....

I know the Jag is solid, and the Maserati is pretty good. I'd also have to do something for GPS and Bluetooth on the 360 as is wasn't offered that far back as far I know...
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Dec 31, 2013 | 08:37 AM
  #40  
Quote: I need a daily driver, do you think the 360 would work?
Age is the issue. Any car over 10 years old will have a greater risk of reliability problems, and that risk is increased in this case because a) it's a Ferrari, not exactly renowned for reliability, and b) you won't know how it's been treated by previous owners. I'm not saying all 10+ years cars are lemons; I only sold my '97 XK8 recently, and it was pretty solid, but I had owned it since 2000 so I knew that it was well-maintained and wasn't a dud to start with.

I'd be reluctant to buy a 10+ year-old exotic, especially a Ferrari, as a daily-use vehicle - perhaps as a fun car, so that it doesn't matter if it won't start or whatever. But I'd be worried about using it in a work situation; I can just see myself standing on the side of a motorway waiting for a low-loader while I miss a customer appointment.
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