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chazaroo 10-01-2017 02:46 PM

Will an XKR smoke an Aston Martin V8 Vantage?
 
There's a guy who apparently lives near me who has a V8 Vantage GT. I've run across him several times in the last month. And every time he sees my XKR, he decides to downshift and go racing past me. That got me to wondering if his car is actually faster than mine? So, I went online to do some research and based on road test results from a few different sources, it seems like an XKR is faster both zero to 60 and in a quarter mile. I was surprised and wonder if anyone has an experience vs a Vantage GT?

Queen and Country 10-01-2017 03:38 PM

More than smoke.
My friend has one he pulled up next to me and floored it, despite getting a late start, I ran away from him.
Start at the 4min mark

Cambo 10-01-2017 03:41 PM

Even a 4.2 XKR will pull away from a V8 Vantage, the 5.0 XKR smashes it.

Cee Jay 10-01-2017 05:28 PM

An oldie but a goodie:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2tscik

Sorry about the ad, I tried downloading it but only GOT the ad.

u102768 10-01-2017 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Cambo (Post 1768909)
Even a 4.2 XKR will pull away from a V8 Vantage.

Depends which V8 Vantage you are comparing it to. The early ones were 4.3 litre cars with a 0-60 of 4.9 secs. The 09 MY on have a 4.7 litre engine with a 0-60 of 4.7 secs.

Having said that, I test drove a 4.7 litre Vantage recently and felt that the pickup and acceleration in my 07 XKR was quicker although, as you know, mine has had a few tweaks along the way :)

tberg 10-01-2017 08:16 PM

chazaroo,
Let him downshift all he wants, unless he's "played" with his engine a bit, the only view he'll have of your 5.0L XKR will be of your tailights!His car will sound glorious, but you'll not be able to hear it because he'll be so far behind.

Datsports 10-01-2017 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 1768907)
More than smoke.
My friend has one he pulled up next to me and floored it, despite getting a late start, I ran away from him.
Start at the 4min mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaocrK8GWEA&t=296s

great vid.
i miss having Steve Sutcliffe at the helm for autocar .
they seem lost for talent without him .

mosesbotbol 10-02-2017 07:56 AM

I believe the Vantage will out handle and perform better on a twisty road or track, but in a straight line, the 5.0 XKR has an additional 60 hp. It's a different visceral experience in the Vantage that is more than the spec's on paper.

chazaroo 10-02-2017 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 1768907)
More than smoke.
My friend has one he pulled up next to me and floored it, despite getting a late start, I ran away from him.
Start at the 4min mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaocrK8GWEA&t=296s

I watched it but it didn't actually answer the question because the car in the video was an XKRS not XKR.

chazaroo 10-02-2017 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by tberg (Post 1769020)
chazaroo,
Let him downshift all he wants, unless he's "played" with his engine a bit, the only view he'll have of your 5.0L XKR will be of your tailights!His car will sound glorious, but you'll not be able to hear it because he'll be so far behind.

LOL! Good post!

Queen and Country 10-02-2017 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Datsports (Post 1769069)
great vid.
i miss having Steve Sutcliffe at the helm for autocar .
they seem lost for talent without him .

He truly had a way of pointing out that which is important.
As he did in that video, on both cars no less.
He loved the XKR. And lived with one for a long time.
Not hard to do when you want a holistic solution.

There are umpteen cars better than mine in one virtue or the other, including the Ftype, but none that surpass it in all the virtues.

tarhealcracker 10-02-2017 11:32 AM

There are umpteen cars better than mine in one virtue or the other, including the Ftype, but none that surpass it in all the virtues.[/QUOTE]


That last line sums up the XK/XKR experience about as well as it can be said.

Queen and Country 10-02-2017 11:34 AM

Sutcliffe says " you dont have to be in a low gear in the XKR, in the Aston you need to be above 4000rpm. It doesnt matter what gear you are in, put your foot down and it goes, because of the torque, it monsters the Aston"

chazaroo 10-02-2017 01:20 PM

I tried to post this earlier but apparently it didn't get in. I found a Car & Driver instrumented test of the 2010 XKR and estimated numbers for 2017 Vantage GT:
XKR: Zero to 60 in 4:0 seconds
Vantage GT: 4.2-4.4 seconds
XKR:Zero to 100 in 8.8 second
Vantage GT 10.1 -10.4 seconds
XKR Standing quarter mile: 12.3 seconds
Vanatge GT Standing quarter mile: 12.6 -12.8 seconds

Simon Tan 10-02-2017 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by chazaroo (Post 1769314)
I tried to post this earlier but apparently it didn't get in. I found a Car & Driver instrumented test of the 2010 XKR and estimated numbers for 2017 Vantage GT:
XKR: Zero to 60 in 4:0 seconds
Vantage GT: 4.2-4.4 seconds
XKR:Zero to 100 in 8.8 second
Vantage GT 10.1 -10.4 seconds
XKR Standing quarter mile: 12.3 seconds
Vanatge GT Standing quarter mile: 12.6 -12.8 seconds

In fairness, you should probably also put a range on the XKR 0-60 time since the official number from Jaguar is 4.6 sec.

Queen and Country 10-02-2017 03:39 PM

Driving skills are a bigger factor than published numbers.
As seen here with the older less capable engine

Queen and Country 10-02-2017 03:42 PM

P.s. the Audi in the video above is 540hp and 0-60 time of 3.2secs

Simon Tan 10-02-2017 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 1769389)
P.s. the Audi in the video above is 540hp and 0-60 time of 3.2secs

The Audi driver was also apparently checking his email when the light turned green.

Queen and Country 10-02-2017 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Simon Tan (Post 1769393)
The Audi driver was also apparently checking his email when the light turned green.

Ok here is a better driver but moron cameraman. Same results.

chazaroo 10-02-2017 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Simon Tan (Post 1769374)
In fairness, you should probably also put a range on the XKR 0-60 time since the official number from Jaguar is 4.6 sec.

True but the Car & Driver test was instrumented , which I think means it's more scientific and that they stand behind the numbers.


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