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The E-diffs have had trouble which seems to result in replacement versus repair according to dealer results. If it gets noisy it's dead. Good many threads on the forum once you rummage around a while, especially on the F type side.
Hi Ranchero,
It was really partially mean't tongue and cheek, you being a Hot Rod'r Ford type guy (similar to me) I thought maybe you had stripped a few!
Yeah, if people keep driving something that is noisy, it's gonna fail.
Those F-Type guys don't seem to be the best at conserving equipment, LOL JUST KIDDING (sort of :-)
Jagtoes, you used the same argument about the excessive oil consumption that led to blown 5.0's and just like that argument, trends are pointless when your pride and joy just sh.t itself. The man asked about reliability of the model. He's gotten a bunch of folks who emotionally say it's perfection in a gold foil wrapper and a couple who said it's a car, it'll break and here's some 'common' things that'll trip you up.
Oddly enough what's the percent ratio of owners who peruse forums for information? What's the percentage that actually do something to their cars? What's the percentage that get their tires filled at the dealer?
That's why when I buy something new I always search and search forums and blogs for information about common problems. Sure, 99.92% of folks won't have them but when you're looking at a prospective car it's nice to know what you are getting into when you hear a little noise or feel a vibration.
Jagtoes, you used the same argument about the excessive oil consumption that led to blown 5.0's and just like that argument, trends are pointless when your pride and joy just sh.t itself. The man asked about reliability of the model. He's gotten a bunch of folks who emotionally say it's perfection in a gold foil wrapper and a couple who said it's a car, it'll break and here's some 'common' things that'll trip you up.
Oddly enough what's the percent ratio of owners who peruse forums for information? What's the percentage that actually do something to their cars? What's the percentage that get their tires filled at the dealer?
That's why when I buy something new I always search and search forums and blogs for information about common problems. Sure, 99.92% of folks won't have them but when you're looking at a prospective car it's nice to know what you are getting into when you hear a little noise or feel a vibration.
Wise Words ^^^^^, especially the last part, that is exactly how I landed here (for better or worse :-)
Finally for this short list is the absolute crap thin metal vanity cover on the lug nuts that will strip out at the worst possible time leaving you cussing on the side of the road.
Actually very clever, the vanity covers allows Jaguar to use hardened bolts suitable for the rampant rust that exists in UK, and still have good aesthetics, as opposed to making pretty bolts that are weak.
Note; no one in UK has had a problem with them or stripped a bolt due to using the wrong size socket. Go figure!
I know they are 19mm two piece lug nuts on my 08 XKR. One did strip out on me, so I changed them all out with one piece solid mag seat nuts that were readily available. Same thing for all my other cars, so this is common practice for lots of production cars and not necessarily a Jag specific thing.
OP here... I've had mine for 6 months now, so other's may have better knowledge/experience, but here's my take:
It seems that reliability with these cars is pretty strong (basing this on all the research I did when looking, plus my limited 6 month ownership). I haven't had any problems with this, but I've heard that they use a fair amount of plastic parts (I'm not talking about the interior) that can become brittle and break, particularly when other work is being done on the car. This isn't unique to Jaguars though, and mostly affects cars that have spent significant time outside (not garaged), especially in hot or cold weather.
Basically, I never found anything that indicated particular years were better/worse, and overall reliability is good (especially for its class). There are a few other considerations when comparing years. I ended up finding a 2009, which has its advantages. The 2010+ has the stronger engine, a better looking front bumper, and interior improvements (available cooled seats, some nicer finishing, etc).
I thought I wanted a 2010, but the 2009 has a couple advantages of its own - primarily that you can get it cheaper than the 2010+, it has a nicer interior than the 2007-2008 (a common complaint is that it feels cheap inside for the $85k MSRP), and the nicest looking wheels (the Senta wheels) are only available on the 2007-2009 (this is obviously just my opinion, and my car doesn't have the Sentas).
The specific car will make a much bigger difference in reliability than the year. I was lucky to find one that had been owned by the President of his local Jaguar club and he'd taken good care of it and put a lot of money into it (after the first owner had neglected some things). He was able to provide me maintenance records and I also had it inspected prior to purchasing (this should be a requirement, of course), so I knew what maintenance items were upcoming.
Be patient and wait until you find the car you want in good condition. It took me about 6 months of impatient waiting, but it was worth it when I found what I wanted. I've had no issues so far and have greatly enjoyed driving it every day.
Jagtoes, you used the same argument about the excessive oil consumption that led to blown 5.0's and just like that argument, trends are pointless when your pride and joy just sh.t itself. The man asked about reliability of the model. He's gotten a bunch of folks who emotionally say it's perfection in a gold foil wrapper and a couple who said it's a car, it'll break and here's some 'common' things that'll trip you up.
Oddly enough what's the percent ratio of owners who peruse forums for information? What's the percentage that actually do something to their cars? What's the percentage that get their tires filled at the dealer?
That's why when I buy something new I always search and search forums and blogs for information about common problems. Sure, 99.92% of folks won't have them but when you're looking at a prospective car it's nice to know what you are getting into when you hear a little noise or feel a vibration.
Hey , good discussion and it's always good to get varying opinions. Thanks.
I know they are 19mm two piece lug nuts on my 08 XKR. One did strip out on me, so I changed them all out with one piece solid mag seat nuts that were readily available. Same thing for all my other cars, so this is common practice for lots of production cars and not necessarily a Jag specific thing.
The irony is Toyota shanked chrome lug nuts work excellent and don't rust up much either. Only downside is the 21mm head
From my own personal experience, the first year 2007 is the one to get. I know this sounds unusual, as first year production cars usually have the most problems...but Jaguar got this one right the very first time. It is also the only year with a leather and wood steering wheel and it has a traditional gear shifter (instead of the later rising one) and I have added a custom made shift knob that looks fabulous (see pic). The 2007 body style is the best as well when compared to XKR/S models in my opinion (car makers have a tendency to get the first year right and then make them less attractive each passing year). I also recommend a coupe over a convertible, not only because there are less things that can go wrong but it just looks stunning. Let us know which one you decide to buy.
you sort of right cause I never had any major problems with the 2007 except for the alternator going bad and battery dying later on it.Other than that,I never had any super serious issues with it
Just a note on 5.0 vs 4.2, I'm currently dealing with left bank injector issues on my 5.0 XJ. I gave up finding a local shop that wanted to work on it and wouldn't charge 3 grand for the work. So I'm doing it myself, not fun. I even ran BG44k, got a fuel system cleaning, etc. I don't think I want to buy a DI car again for as much of a pain this has been.
I had four injectors changed, eight new plugs, oil change, trans fluid and pan and a couple other nitnoid things. Cost me just over $2k. You're looking at crappy shops, evidently.
My normal shop didn't want to work on it and the two nearby specialists were obnoxious. First wanted to charge me $390 jaguar prices for the $85 Bosch part. I got so frustrated I'm just going to do it myself. Lucky I have lifts and more cars than I need.
I concur that one needs to be mindful of the monies spent on maintenance. And at the mileage I have, proper maintenance is essential.
Back to the title of this thread, it’s coming up to the end of 2020 and I have a car from 2007 that I thoroughly enjoy.
Original differential,
Original water and steering pumps,
Original supercharger,
Original transmission,
Original radiator,
Original calipers,
Original exhaust,
And don’t think she hasn’t been driven long and hard in all weather, in all seasons.
And she is every bit as dependable as when I got her. 1 word: ‘WOW’.
You just have to love the car to be happy owning an XK or any Jaguar. I have owned a 2000 XK8, 2003 XK8, both convertibles that had the latch hose burst leaking hydraulic oil on the center console, door latch sensors go bad which prevents the rear side windows from rising, failed hydraulic roof pump, and intermittent problems with the radio antenna among other issues. I had a 2007 XK convertible which had a failed servo motor on the roof that prevented it from locking and would not allow the rear side windows from closing. The rear glued to the canvas window began to detach and fall out and had to be repaired and the dash shrinkage caused it to detach and I had a auto upholstery company glue it as best they could by injecting glue with a syringe since you have to remove the windshield to replace the dashboard. I have had a 98 XJ6 Vandenplaus and a 2003 XJ8 Vandenplaus which had various electrical issues. I had a 2010 Range Rover Sport which had a leaking gasket on the fuel pump which left the car smelling of gas fumes and radio buttons that turned to mush that was solved with aftermarket chrome covers that glue over the failed rubber that was a powerful solid vehicle. I currently have a 2003 Discovery in running order, a 2008 Range Rover HSE, and a 2010 XK Coupe that I just spent 7200.00 dollars on replacing suspension system components that had expired rubber parts and a suspension fault due to a faulty height sensor and the dash has some shrinkage at 60,000 miles on the odometer, but not as severe as my 07 XK. So are they reliable, Yes if you buy a good service low mileage vehicle, but expect to keep paying to keep them that way! I still consider Jaguar and Landrover to be the most beautiful and fun cars to drive and own!
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I cannot add much here. I have never had any serious issues with one of my cats. And the X150s are among the best vehicles ever built by Jaguar - consistently, my own experience and that of my local dealership’s experts.
Have to say PPI means squat - bought mine with 42k last August. since then 4k miles including water pump, radiator and head liner. Maintenance also does not mean much, as I have the whole history on my car. My WP was replaced at 22k miles, the clue I had and bought the car anyway is that my thermostat was weeping and my front pipe was leaking too.
