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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 05:45 AM
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That makes sense now, and Tom (test point) appears to have been right again about the head gasket.

When all is completed and the car running right, it would be a good idea to document the information as best you can and send it to Jaguar N.A.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 07:33 AM
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While all marques suffer from having lousy dealerships scattered around their network, Jaguar seems to lead the pack in the number of lousy dealerships infested across the country. "Lousy" refers to incompetent diagnostic skills as well as astronomically-inflated price quotes shoved down owners' throats....

I'll never forget the "Master Tech" at our local Jaguar dealership back in December 2008 who insisted to me that ZF was a French company when I was kicking the tires on our S-Type trying to decide whether or not to make an offer. Yes, I wound up buying the car. No, I never went back to him for answers to any more of my questions....

Good luck with the fix and keep us posted....
 
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 09:28 AM
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It's externally spidered all over casting marks, oil pouring out the spidered casting marks,externally and internally.They showed the external cracks and leaks to me,then used a camera in the spark plug hole to show cracks in the cylinder walls and nikasal lining failure.the car only has 117kk,apparently this is nothing new to them.
So what happened to all this stuff you saw with your own eyes?

Where was 'the white oil smoke' coming from? Under the hood or from the tailpipe?
 
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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 07:16 AM
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So what happened to all this stuff you saw with your own eyes?

Where was 'the white oil smoke' coming from? Under the hood or from the tailpipe?
The Indy said my head gasket is composite and allowing oil in the motor and causing an external oil leak and internal white smoke from oil and or a tiny bit of coolant. He says what I seen inside the block was just the look of Burt up oil,mixed with a rich mixture of gas as the ecm tries to run rich to keep the bank from detonation and leaning out and coolant built up and the pistons scraping that coating,and all the 4.0s he has done are known for this. My oil level is just a quart low and coolant level fine.Apparently, I am getting upgraded gaskets from a 4.2 engine.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 05:43 PM
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The Indy said my head gasket is composite and allowing oil in the motor and causing an external oil leak and internal white smoke from oil and or a tiny bit of coolant. He says what I seen inside the block was just the look of Burt up oil,mixed with a rich mixture of gas as the ecm tries to run rich to keep the bank from detonation and leaning out and coolant built up and the pistons scraping that coating,and all the 4.0s he has done are known for this. My oil level is just a quart low and coolant level fine.Apparently, I am getting upgraded gaskets from a 4.2 engine.



 
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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I just don't get why this head gasket is only brining oil,and only leaking oil no coolant?????????????The Indy took this picture after power washing the block. In fact, he says the short block looks brand new,the motor mounts brand new,as if it was already replaced with a steel sleeved block, but perhaps jaguar used a cheap composite gaskets, and re-used my head bolts,which is a fatal error. He explains the old bolts stretch and can give false angle to torque specs on the angle torque wrench scale and expand as temps cool and get warm again,causing the head gaskets not to seal properly.
 

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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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So you're now saying the engine may have already been swapped for a later steel sleeved engine and there's also a new theory that the dealer went cheap and reused a few bolts.

How come it lasted 15 years without issue then?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 07:59 PM
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The head bolts can e reused once according to the factory.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 08:15 PM
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So you're now saying the engine may have already been swapped for a later steel sleeved engine and there's also a new theory that the dealer went cheap and reused a few bolts.

How come it lasted 15 years without issue then?
I am not INDY,he speak,I relay words spoken. Not 15 years if the block was replaced.Previous owners refuse to communicate with me on service documentation, last owner smoked lots of cigarettes while making our deal, bad business.
 

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Old Oct 5, 2015 | 11:33 AM
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I am not INDY,he speak,I relay words spoken. Not 15 years if the block was replaced.Previous owners refuse to communicate with me on service documentation, last owner smoked lots of cigarettes while making our deal, bad business.
If the engine was replaced during the 3 year warranty period, it would be between 12 and 15 years old given that your car was built in 1999 or 2000. Jaguar would be able to tell you if the engine was replaced under warranty. Your indy should able to tell you if the engine is the original or not.

If it's not the original engine and was not replaced by Jaguar under warranty and the previous owners won't talk to you I guess you'll never know the full story.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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If the engine was replaced during the 3 year warranty period, it would be between 12 and 15 years old given that your car was built in 1999 or 2000. Jaguar would be able to tell you if the engine was replaced under warranty. Your indy should able to tell you if the engine is the original or not.

If it's not the original engine and was not replaced by Jaguar under warranty and the previous owners won't talk to you I guess you'll never know the full story.
Well the Indy is performing special compression test, as he too says all jaguar 4.0s he has done, has had coolant blow out the tail, not just oil blow out the tail and leak externally. He says he thinks the previous owner used a head gasket seal liquid or block fill and that's why it's only on the oil side not coolant, and Its going to give him a hard time flushing my vehicle,s coolant of contamination. And I could need a radiator and heater core, if clogged.He said its my fault for not having an independent inspection including a compression test and chemical test, that would of shown the head gasket on its way out,and I've been had !
 

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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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This story makes less and less sense.

Good luck.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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in this picture, you can see the short block is new,the motor mounts are new,the block drain plugs are also new.

 
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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I guess I'm not seeing what you are but your latest theory is that someone recently swapped in a different engine?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 07:04 PM
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The mechanics confused me too, time to attack this issue. Teardown has began, the coolant had sealant in it, was successfully flushed, and back flushed,meaning forward flush then backward flush,by removing thermostat and connecting the coolant flush machine.The oil is drained,coolant drained,exhaust off,valve covers off, hood,radiator,condenser, and throttle body off, this guy is bad ****, and he loves jaguars. He even removed my abs computer and soldered the power contacts, and made sure the backing plate on my instrument cluster is the modified stamped M white plate and it is. Im getting all new belts and gaskets,timing guides,etc,as he bought them for another 4.0, but the owner had a change of mind and got a Mercedes.
 

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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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I just got a headache reading this whole thread !!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

 
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Old May 24, 2016 | 02:07 AM
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In the picture, isn't that duct tape wound round the wiring too?? Someone's been there before....
 
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 12:40 PM
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My 2005 Jaguar S type was fine before I fill her up at Texaco in Mayport FL. I filled her up and when down the road everything was fine till I got to my sister work to pick her up. My car shake voliently and spit and make sounds like she isn't get gas. Then my car started to over heat and I being putting distilled water in coolant reservoir because I didn't want to pay over $100 in coolant because the car needs water pump and I don't where to get money to fix everything. I looked at oil and smell like gas so I don't know what to do.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Lucy
My 2005 Jaguar S type was fine before I fill her up at Texaco in Mayport FL. I filled her up and when down the road everything was fine till I got to my sister work to pick her up. My car shake voliently and spit and make sounds like she isn't get gas. Then my car started to over heat and I being putting distilled water in coolant reservoir because I didn't want to pay over $100 in coolant because the car needs water pump and I don't where to get money to fix everything. I looked at oil and smell like gas so I don't know what to do.
I think you need to shift this to the s type forum and start a new thread , any way you have very little detail about the car/engine , engine temp at time of happenings considering its using water , don't keep driving the car with a bad water pump that's just foolish . My guess is you cooked it . You need to also check the engine trouble codes it may point you in the right direction .
 
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 03:37 PM
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Should have been a new thread. Also you posted in the XK8 forum not in the S type forum. ???? And this post is a least a year old.
 
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