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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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I think you're always better off in a situation like this with a corded drill. My 35-year-old Skil can still drill through most screws and bolts with the right drill bit....

I think drill bit recommendations will vary by size and scope of the job. For the last five years or so, my set of Bosch drill bits has performed well for me....

I have a cordless DeWalt drill that my wife gave me for Christmas maybe ten years ago. Even when new it couldn't handle more than 15 minutes of solid use before giving up the ghost and having to switch battery packs. I rarely bother dragging it out nowadays....
 
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Remove the center wheel plastic badge, use the right socket to remove the nut and then, using a hub extractor or a 2-3 legged press, remove the wheel-hub-disc assembly (there are also the caliper bolts that must be removed). You are very unlucky with this problem!
 

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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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I use drills with carbide or diamond tips for drilling hardened bolts such as this stud. It doesn't matter the cost of the drill, first, you can use it again some day and second, the cost of having the car flatbedded to a shop will cost far more than the tool. Carbide drills are cheapest and I would start there.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 02:20 PM
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By the way, when drilling this stud down, use a corded, powerful drill at medium/ low speed. You need a powerful drill because you do not want the drill to catch and break.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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I had a similar issue on my Ford Explorer, a tire shop cross threaded the wheel nut.
I put my impact wrench on it and spun the stud in the hub. I used my die grinder with a dual cut 1/2 inch carbide burr and ground the stud out of the nut. Then I had to replace the hub because the stud splines were stripped out.
I was going to TIG a new stud in the hub but whimped out...would have been fine I think.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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Is there a possibility to get a mig welder or arc welder tip on the back side where one could weld the stud, then back the nut off the stud.
It sounds as if whatever you do, you will be pulling the hub to replace the stud. Simply gind the weld off once you have the hub off the car so you can get to the problem. This may prevent damage to the wheel.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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This just happened to me on my BMW X5. I had to bring it into Midas to get the nut off. They had to use a torch. Painful to watch but they got it off without damage to the hub. Cost me 50 bucks.

Sorry to hear this!
 
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 08:41 AM
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2 things mentioned that ive done with success every time. Mig welder to tack the back of the stud was always a last resort. And most times i **** the wheel on the car and use my "great" ingersol rand with 700ft/lb reverse torque. It spins it quickly which is what you need and crappy slow torque wrench or by hand will never get it.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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hi i am a newbie to the site. Just bought a 2003 s type. While trying to check out the brakes ran into some lug nuts which were rounded by assuming a impact wrench. 4 of the 5 i managed to loosing, however one was rounded enough and had to force my 19mm socket on it. Now the lug is spinning but not loosing up. I appreciate any help on what to do next other than going to a tire shop or the dealer for help.

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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tonyvech
hi i am a newbie to the site. Just bought a 2003 s type. While trying to check out the brakes ran into some lug nuts which were rounded by assuming a impact wrench. 4 of the 5 i managed to loosing, however one was rounded enough and had to force my 19mm socket on it. Now the lug is spinning but not loosing up. I appreciate any help on what to do next other than going to a tire shop or the dealer for help.

thanks inadvance
Hello Tony-

First of all, welcome to the forum.

You may not want to take it to a mechanic for help, but that's what I recommend. My independent tech solved the problem in about 30 minutes, and it cost me about $80 for the work and the installation of a new stud. It's not a big job, if you've got the right tools.

No need to go to a Jag dealer...they will clean your pockets. Just find an experienced independent mechanics shop.


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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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Welcome to the forum, tony. If you read all the posts in this thread, I think you will see the logic of taking it to a shop, like the coupe says.
When you have time, please visit the new member area and introduce yourself. Link below:
New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum
 
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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Welcome from me too Tony.

One of our members in Tucson speaks highly of these guys FAST Intelligent Auto Repair | Tucson Land Rover, Jaguar, Prius, Mini repair | Specialists they have done some excellent work for him.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 01:45 AM
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Thanks everyone for welcoming me to the forum. I ended up taking the car to a midas shop which have had work done there in the past on my other cars. They ended up taking a impact cutting chisel to remove the stuck 19mm socket and outer lug cap off. they were then able to remove the remaining part of the lug off. The shop itself didn't charge me anything but i tipped the mechanic for the work he did. Took about 15 mins or so for him to remove it.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tonyvech
Thanks everyone for welcoming me to the forum. I ended up taking the car to a midas shop which have had work done there in the past on my other cars. They ended up taking a impact cutting chisel to remove the stuck 19mm socket and outer lug cap off. they were then able to remove the remaining part of the lug off. The shop itself didn't charge me anything but i tipped the mechanic for the work he did. Took about 15 mins or so for him to remove it.

Is the stud still good, or do you need a new one installed?


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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 06:16 PM
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Hi, yes the stud was still in good shape, basically the mechanic just chiseled the stuck socket and outer cap off of the inter lug and then was able to loosen the lug off the stud.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Remove all nuts, locate the cross threaded nut at the 12 o'clock posititon. Raise the car at the affected wheel. Place something like a 4"X4"wood block under the affected tire. Lower the car so that all the weight is divided between the 2 opposite front and rear tires. Try to get your socket on the nut and loosen it.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:14 AM
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Naturally, you will want to place a jackstand under the car for when th lug nut comes off.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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I got here late, but I would told you, to just take it to a shop, I could have that fixed in seconds with a cutting chisel at no cost,the only tip I would want is food,mechanics have plenty of money,especially Jaguar Mechanics.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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The nut splitter idea sounds good to me. Once it splits, you might be able to work it off. Another idea would be to try to grab it with a slide hammer and pull it out. If you cut it off with a torch, I think it would be easier to drill out the remaining shank. Or you could weld something to it that you could grab onto.

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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 128433
Remove all nuts, locate the cross threaded nut at the 12 o'clock posititon. Raise the car at the affected wheel. Place something like a 4"X4"wood block under the affected tire. Lower the car so that all the weight is divided between the 2 opposite front and rear tires. Try to get your socket on the nut and loosen it.
idk why this thread has been revived but noone do this^^^

It is in no way a good idea to use and possibly damage the wheel to jam the stud in place and stick a jack stand under the car anticipating the car to drop onto it.
This can damage whatever is going to land on the jackstand, the wheel, the hub,the rotor, and possibly the person working on it.

The simplest solution was to take a chisel to the nut until it broke or some other method of cracking the nut open to pull it away from the stud.
 
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