XK8 / XKR ( X100 ) 1996 - 2006

High Idle & VVT clicking

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 03:44 PM
  #1  
Spurlee's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 944
Likes: 133
From: Chicago/Southern Wisconsin
Default High Idle & VVT clicking

This afternoon and one time last week my otherwise fine running XK8 (MY2000, 95,000 miles) is experiencing a high idle when warm- it holds at about 1,200 RPM. It happened today after a 150 mile expressway run while cruising through town toward home.

It started surging a bit at about 40 mph. I could hear what I think is the VVT clicking madly - several times per second - while I'm cruising at 40-45. I received a Failsafe warning as I pulled into the drive.

I pulled code P0507 -"Idle Control System - RPM Higher than expected". This is the generic OBD definition, does someone know the Jaguar-specific definition and it's diagnostic links?

I cleared the code and all has returned to normal for now.

The rapid clicking of the VVT is a clue to somethng, I'm just not sure what.

My throttle body was rebuilt about 25,000 miles ago and is spotless and the electrical connections are 100%.

Thanks!
 
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 04:14 PM
  #2  
astromorg's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,113
Likes: 567
From: Portsmouth, England
Default

The JTIS description for that code is, as you say, idle rpm higher than expected. Their explanation for it is:

Intake air leak between MAFS and throttle
Intake air leak between throttle and engine
Engine breather leak
Throttle valve stuck open
Throttle assembly failure

No mention of VVT on this one. Maybe the ticking is something loose and flapping in the inlet trunking?
 
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 08:13 PM
  #3  
Spurlee's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 944
Likes: 133
From: Chicago/Southern Wisconsin
Default

I'll give the small parts of the inake the once over and look for split connections, etc. I just went over the accordian hose and the throttle body gasket recently and they're good.

I'm pretty positive I was hearing the VVT solenoid actuating. I wasn't thinking and cleared the code - and the problem - before I had a chance to stand next to the thing and listen. It will return I'm sure and I'll get a chance again.

P0507 is a pretty generic and lame code. It certainly can be, and is most often, triggered by intake air leaks but I'm betting that something else is fooling the throttle body/VVT system into thinking the engine should be making more power than it needs to at that moment.

Thanks for the fast response, I was trying to locate my CD drive and JTIS disc and get it to work with this new computer...
 
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2013 | 02:13 AM
  #4  
XKRacer's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,255
Likes: 584
From: UK
Default

The VVT accurate around 1300 rpm, so you may well here them going in and out as the revs go up and down but not normally rapidly.

I would do as you are and give everything a good clean, spray some WD40 around joins and known problem areas looking for air leaks, you will know if the revs pick up
 
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2014 | 02:31 PM
  #5  
Spurlee's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 944
Likes: 133
From: Chicago/Southern Wisconsin
Default

I did a search for P0507 today (3/9/14) to help deal with a current issue and my old post came up!

I should have tidied this old one up by noting that the fault was a loose throttle body electrical connection. It felt seated and snug but the retaining tang was broken off and it would eventually work itself out of the connector and cause weird problems doing so.

I devised a set screw arrangement to hold it all together. That worked for a couple of years and when the trouble returned I recently added a Zip-Tie to help hold the wire loom more tightly.

The P0507 code has reappeared this spring, on and off. I'm back to looking for air leaks...
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
flyrr100
X-Type ( X400 )
3
Mar 14, 2016 06:37 AM
ccfulton
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
4
Sep 20, 2015 05:15 PM
Donzi
PRIVATE For Sale / Trade or Buy Classifieds
0
Sep 17, 2015 01:29 PM
raulan
XF and XFR ( X250 )
3
Sep 10, 2015 12:43 PM
laserguy
X-Type ( X400 )
3
Sep 3, 2015 02:02 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:16 PM.